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Jason Cole: Dolphins interested in Tarvaris Jackson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ckparrothead, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Really difficult to see why the Dolphins would do this.

    http://www.twitter.com/JasonColeYahoo

    What would be the rationale behind this? We don't have enough veteran backups to Ryan Tannehill already? We're going to trade in David Garrard for Tarvaris Jackson? Is Tarvaris Jackson the targeted long term backup to Ryan Tannehill?
     
  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    doesnt compute for sure.....strange.
     
  3. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    Garrard injury worse than expected?? Doesn't really add up.
     
  4. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Or MM may be traded and replaced by Jackson?
     
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  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Maybe they really do have a suitor for Matt Moore. Who knows?

    Maybe Jason Cole is talking out his ***.

    Don't we have someone on here who is personal friends with Jason? Might he be able to procure an explanation?
     
  6. Trackstar

    Trackstar Season Ticket Holder Luxury Box

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    Was really hoping the thread title ended in Mike Wallace
     
  7. Daben

    Daben Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sounds like our name is being used for agent/club purposes, might be worth checking on who his agent is. Makes zero sense otherwise. It's entirely feasible in the quid pro quo world of reporting that Cole will tweet some team names in exchange for some brownie points with an agent or club.
     
  8. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    IIRC Joel Segal is Jackson's agent
     
  9. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    It's Matt Moore, Reggie Bush, Devon Bess and a 4th for Earl Thomas and Jackson
     
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  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    It's possible that this official announcement with Tannehill and Moore is just setting off a big string of events though. Very possible.

    Matt Moore has backers in this league. There were all kinds of coaches out there and front office executives that were all too willing to give quotes to the newspapers anonymously about how good Matt Moore is and how underrated he is in Miami, prior to OTAs/Mini Camp/Training Camp/Preseason. Barry Jackson had several quotes to that effect and I've seen others in other national publications.

    Perhaps Ryan Tannehill officially taking the job from Moore has Jeff Ireland thinking he's got to exchange Moore for a wide receiver. But with Garrard injured, the only way he can do that would be if he pulled in another quarterback that they're comfortable with as a backup to Tannehill. I don't think they'd be comfortable tabbing Devlin for that.

    Potential suitors for Matt Moore that come to mind would be:

    1. Green Bay
    2. Denver
    3. Kansas City
    4. Minnesota
    5. San Diego

    The reason I add Minnesota and San Diego is because they're also sniffing at Tarvaris Jackson which IMO puts them in line for a potential Moore trade as well. So let's speculate that we try and trade Moore to one of these teams. Which wide receiver would we be targeting in return?

    1. Green Bay - James Jones?
    2. Denver - Andre Caldwell/Jason Hill?
    3. Kansas City - Dwayne Bowe?
    4. San Diego - None (with Vincent Brown breaking his ankle, they can't afford to give any up)
    5. Minnesota - Percy Harvin/Devin Aromashodu/Stephen Burton/Emmanuel Arceneaux?

    Keep in mind...Miami has an extra 3rd round Draft pick in 2013 due to the Brandon Marshall trade. So for guys like Percy Harvin or Dwayne Bowe it isn't like we would just be trading them Matt Moore straight up.
     
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  11. padre31

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    What is more interesting to me is the named teams in search of a backup Qb.

    MMoore to SD makes a lot of sense and we have a trade history with them.

    As does MMoore to KC with Daboll having a history with him.

    Wouldn't mind seeing if Larry English was on the market.
     
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  12. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Jason Cole: Pay attention to me

    That's how I read it, at least.
     
  13. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Wtf?
     
  14. Rilo

    Rilo New Member

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    Something to consider is Seattles WR corps Rice has been sidelined, Tate had a injury plagued season last seaon but is healthy now, Baldwin tweaked a hammy earlier in the preseason, You have TO and Braylon Edwards. They are in need of some WRs. We may have 4s, 5s and 6s but we have them they do not. There top guys have injury issues and they have no depth. I can see us trading some WRs
     
  15. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    If you can get Percy Harvin for Matt Moore, yes. Even if he is a diva.
     
  16. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I can't imagine Miami trading for Jackson's $4 million contract. Like Moore and Garrard, he's also a free agent after the season.

    A lot can happen in a short amount of time, but I can't see the Dolphins being without both Moore and Garrard on Saturday, and then trading for Jackson?

    He's an athletic WCO guy, but what else? Just seems like dealing for the sake of dealing. I don't know about you guys, but being one snap away from Pat Devlin and/or a new acquisition scares me. I don't buy Cole's report.

    For old time sake, it'd be hilarious to see us discard two known, capable entities for someone else's third stringer, pay him more than the last two guys and compensate that team for the privilege.

    Seriously though, everybody laudes how good that quarterback room is. Why break up the band?

    Assuming Garrard makes it back, I do expect Moore to be dealt at some point.
     
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  17. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    So we would be in serious trouble if Tannehill went down.
     
  18. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Percy Harvin is one more migraine from being done for his career. Between those and his nagging little injuries, Harvin is a not a good fit.
     
  19. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Matt Moore for Fitzgerald or Megatron. Do It!!
     
  20. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    We have one person here who is friends with Jason (Not me) and one who was kicked out of a fantasy football league with Jason when he got mad because I showed him up regarding a football point....The person who is friends with JC hasnt been very active lately.

    RE: Jackson..he does have experience in a WCO (Minny and Seattle) where neither Moore and Garrard really do. Obviously Moore isnt inspiring confidence. Jackson is also younger and maybe viewed as a better long term option as a backup then Moore or Garrard.

    I cant see Minny dealing Harvin because even though he wants his new contract they have poop at wr aside from him and Simpson. Ditto for KC and Bowe and KC actually has a chance to win that division as just getting Berry, Charles and Moeaki back from ACL tears will help them immensely. Though KC does have Daboll so from that perspective I cant totally dismiss it.

    The Jets (sparano) make some sense but not sure we'd get more then a draft pick back. Arizona makes some sense as well from the perspective that their QB situation is quite possibly the worst in the league aside from NYJ..maybe we get Doucet or Andre Roberts back since they are very deep at wr. Cleveland (Colt McCoy and Josh Cribbs?) could be in play.
     
  21. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I hope not. TJack is awful.
     
  22. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I hope this doesn't happen.
     
  23. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I think the Dolphins will be lucky to get a 6th or 7th round selection for Moore. He isn't going to be anything but a backup on any other NFL team and backups aren't traded for top tier players or high draft picks.
    In fact the Dolphins should jump at any trade offering a sixth round selection, because if they don't take it, they may end up getting nothing in return and having to cut Moore to reach the 53 man limit.
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That would be a significant downgrade for us at #2.
     
  25. CrunchTime

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    A decision will have to be made on Gerrard soon and perhaps they are exploring alternatives should it be decided that Gerrards injury will keep him out for a substantial number of games .Due dilligence if you will
     
  26. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    Well, Mike Vick just went to the locker room after a hit in the NE game. With Kafka out, and if Vick ends up being seriously injured, they could emerge as a partner for Moore as well.
     
  27. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    IMO this (if true) indicates that either Garrard's injury is bad enough that his return is in question or they're admitting/realizing that Moore is just a bad fit for this offense/ isn't going to be happy as the second or third string guy. Or it's both of those reasons. I don't see GB as a suitor b/c he'll be just as bad of a fit there. But Moore is a good QB. I think if you put him in SD or Minny he can be just fine.
     
  28. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    maybe we can recoup some of those 2nd rounders we've given them over the years :)

    but vicks injury doesn't look horribly bad
     
  29. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Maybe , maybe not.

    I was not a fan of MM last year,he played "ok" at times imo , nothing to make me not want to upgrade in the off season. It also depends on what we get for MM , that would have to be factored in and they may still feel DG is in the plans. We aren't a playoff team ( imo ) and I don't think MM is in the plans next year , when he can walk away for nothing.
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Jackson has just never impressed me as a passer. He is also in the final year of a contract and older than Moore. The only way one would trade for him is if it included his signing an extension.
     
  31. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Moore > Jackson.
    Seems like a counterproductive move.
     
  32. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral Staff Member

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    Makes no sense. I'd rather have Devlin be our #2 than TJack. You know, when we traded Marshall back in February/March and then didn't draft a receiver until the 6th round, I figured Ireland must have something up his sleeve. But obviously that didn't happen. I mean if he knew back then that a wide receiver he targeted could be had, he'd have made that deal by now. If by chance a trade should happen at this stage, it'd be for a veteran who is familiar with the offense.
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The one guy rumored to be available who stands out in this regard is James Jones. If GB would take a 4 for him, I'd be all over that deal, IF at the same time Jones agreed to an extension.
     
  34. Lee2000

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    Foles is looking very good tonight.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    He looked very good in week 1 too.
     
  36. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral Staff Member

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    According to rotoworld, James Jones' contract details:

    So he has two years remaining on that deal. I think it's fair to say we can trade a four for him now and continue on with the contract he has. Unless we had our minds set on another Packer.... say Greg Jennings.... he's playing the last year of his cap friendly deal he signed back in 2009. Now he's coming off a concussion from a couple weeks ago. He's turning 29 next month. I'd give up next year's 2nd rounder and Matt Moore and just hope the Packers owe Philbin one :lol:
     
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  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Well, he seemed to intentionally avoid pursuing any of their asst coaches, even though a couple would have been good fits here.
     
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  38. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend Club Member

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    They have some sorta code in the organization. But I think that's a little unfair preventing coaches from getting possible promotions.
     
  39. sports24/7

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    My guess would be the bolded. This honestly makes no sense on any level. They have two good veteran backups that, if I'm not mistaken, make less than Jackson and are probably both better than him or at least the same level. They also have reason to like Devlin as a developmental 3rd QB. So they're going to forget about all of that and trade some kind of asset for a backup QB? I don't get it.
     
  40. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I think it was Dolfan87 that hooked Boomer up with Cole for the concussion thing.
     

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