Jamar and Will D impress staff..other good nuggets..

He was injured at the time. I recall some were worried he would miss multiple weeks. Maybe he should have because you could tell it affected his play. Playing injured will be necessary if he plans on being a franchise qb so hopefully it was a good learning experience.

 

Dominating the top seed in the NFC playoffs down the stretch on the road as a rookie is what earned him the 'clutch' tag and media hype. 24/36 for 385yds, 2TDs 1int, 60yds rushing (8/carry) and another TD. Don't think I've seen a rookie light up a team in the playoffs like that before, and in the 4th Q. People saying he has a 'low ceiling' is just asinine to me; he's 24 and made big strides as the season progressed, culminating in a ridiculously good game on a big stage. I get that we think Tanny compares favorably to the winners in his QB class, but give credit where it's due.

 

He was outstanding. His team came through for him in ways ours didn't for Tannehill. It is all what ifs and could've/should've but my point was that he made a terrible decision that should've been picked on his own 30 with 2 minutes left in a home game they won by 3. I only say this because you said noone could've beaten Luck that day and I don't think that's necessarily true.

He was better and his team deserved the win, but I don't think he was light years better. Stats aren't everything but RT had 2 games with a qbr over 110 last year. Luck had 0. Luck had a better year (playoffs), but I don't think Luck had a once in a lifetime kind of rookie year while Tannehill's was an "ehh he was ok but has to improve this this and this" kind. They were more comparable especially down the stretch when Luck struggled to hit 50% completions. If anything, Wilson was the one with the once in a generation rookie year imo, and Tannehill led the team to beat the Seahawks. It'll be fun to see what happens this year.

 

I know what you mean, you're explaining what you think just fine.

I don't understand however, how else to explain to you, that what you say you're looking for, happened with Tanny some but often, the receivers didn't get open and his knee was screwed up so he couldn't just create a run.

He is in the TOP 2 in the league in passing under pressure. He has a higher QB rating the longer he holds the ball than any of the four young guys. He was in the BOTTOM 3 of all QBs in having time to throw.

You are somehow simply not making the connection that Tannehill had only 2 competent WRs to throw to and they are on the bottom of the league and his knee limited his rushing ability...not too mention he consistently dealt with 8 in the box because his receiver were so bad. CKap would not have fared much better under those exact same circumstances. RGIII would not have fared much better under those exact same circumstances. Luck would not have fared much better under those exact same circumstances. Wilson would not have fared much better under those exact same circumstances.

 

I promise I understand, but the two crappy receivers is important. It limits his options to make plays throwing the ball when things breakdown and it affects the way the defense plays you when stuff breaks down which make sit harder to run.

There is only two plays a QB can make when all hell breaks loose that could be a positive gain...throw it a receiver or run it. When those options are taken from you by your receivers not being open and your knee being injured plus you have less room to run, then there is no play to make DJ.

You basically have one guy with his hands tied behind his back and his shoes tied together in a footrace with 4 other athletes with no hindrances, and you're saying you want the hindered guy to show you the same athleticism as the other 4.

 

Right but we all the saw the jail breaks when the ball was snapped last year. Those other 4 didn't have that. The last time we saw that kind of oline play was when we put Beck in during the 1-15 year. We know for a fact, that only 3 QBs had less time to throw than Tannehill....you know forget it....let me try this route instead:

I guarantee you (barring injury) Tannehill makes the jump this year. That's how sure I am that is problems were his knee, a poor receiving corp and limited experience.

 

Not a Pacino fan, eh? lol...

That statement just sounded quasi-military like something Pacino would have said in Scent of Woman, or Nicholson in a Few Good Men... lol...

I agree with you though to a certain extent. "Playmaking ability" still requires a couple+ seconds of time to get the ball off and deliver it to someone who could either hold onto it or make a play. Tannehill averaged 2.4 seconds with the ball in his hands before he had to get rid of it last season. Hard to make chicken salad without even enough time to stir the ****...