Jake Long, LT from Michigan

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brandon27brandon27subscriberOP
Jan 1, 2008, 02:18 PM

What would you guys think of drafting this guy. In my opinion he's worthy of a first round pick. we all know our o-line continues to need help, LT is a huge position. This guy has given up only one sack all year, only has i believe one penalty against him, and basically all of michigan's running plays are designed to his side because he's a beast and one heck of a blocker. if we trade down, would you consider taking him??

I know we need help on D, but how can you pass up on a monster "franchise" LT, similar to what the jets did with ferguson a few years ago...

Just a question for you to ponder...


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MAmarco_r31New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:20 PM

man he is big i would definetly like him

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:21 PM

I'm watching him right now and so far he has looked great, the guy is monster.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Jan 1, 2008, 02:24 PM

Alot of people either dont think he's a prospect up there with some of the recent LTs, and some dont consider him a LT at all.

I dont like the idea, personally. Carey did a good job at LT. The draft is full of Tackle prospects, I'd rather the team take a bigger need in a DL considering the prospects there are stronger at #1 IMO and find a Right Tackle with a later pick.

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Jan 1, 2008, 02:25 PM

He'll end up being a right tackle in the NFL. Picking him at #1 would be a horrible move.

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brandon27brandon27subscriber
Jan 1, 2008, 02:25 PM

thats what ive been thinking all year. I'm a michigan fan, so i've seen an awful lot of him the last few years, he's always levelling someone, he's never getting beat, and he's in great shape.. we need some of them offensive lineman that stick around for a long time, we've got satele, he's worked out great for us. why not get another solid O-lineman in there keep building around them. afterall, most of our poor QB play was based on poor blocking this year. its the same thing thats plagued our running game for years, although, yes... we were much improved this year. but LT is such an important position on the line... id love to bring this guy in


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phinfan0202phinfan0202New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:26 PM

"brandon27 wrote:

What would you guys think of drafting this guy. In my opinion he's worthy of a first round pick. we all know our o-line continues to need help, LT is a huge position. This guy has given up only one sack all year, only has i believe one penalty against him, and basically all of michigan's running plays are designed to his side because he's a beast and one heck of a blocker. if we trade down, would you consider taking him??

I know we need help on D, but how can you pass up on a monster "franchise" LT, similar to what the jets did with ferguson a few years ago...

Just a question for you to ponder...

Definately a good player but i don't know how much the Jets fans like D'Brick right now. They actually call him D'Bust.

ChambersWIChambersWINew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:28 PM

I don't think it's fair to say Long can't play LT. He's given up 1 sack all year, and has not been penalized. Hell when he played RT as a Soph and got hurt, the O-Line could not block anybody.

Although I say wait for the senior bowl to say he can't play LT since Big 10 does not have a lot of great pass rushers

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CACarabinieri44New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:28 PM

u never know, jake long may be like brady quinn....he may fall. u dont draft an RT real high....and im sure lots of teams know that. he may not do so well in the combines, WHO KNOWS?!

perhaps he falls all the way to #15, id trade up and pick him immediately.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Jan 1, 2008, 02:33 PM

Topic should read "Jake Long, RT from Michigan," because the guy will not be playing LT in the NFL.

Ryan Clady will. Jeff Otah will. Jake Long will not. Jake Long is an NFL right tackle, and you have to wonder why in the hell we'd spend the #1 overall pick on a right tackle.

ChambersWI wrote:

I don't think it's fair to say Long can't play LT.

Long has been abused with frightening regularity this year, and did the J-O-B to Vernon Gholston two years in a row. If you get knocked around in college as Long does, you simply cannot be an NFL left tackle.

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brandon27brandon27subscriber
Jan 1, 2008, 02:39 PM

"Desides wrote:

Topic should read "Jake Long, RT from Michigan," because the guy will not be playing LT in the NFL.

Ryan Clady will. Jeff Otah will. Jake Long will not. Jake Long is an NFL right tackle, and you have to wonder why in the hell we'd spend the #1 overall pick on a right tackle.

Long has been abused with frightening regularity this year, and did the J-O-B to Vernon Gholston two years in a row. If you get knocked around in college as Long does, you simply cannot be an NFL left tackle.

you are no where near correct. how can you say a guy whos only given up one sack, and has only one penalty against him has been knocked around all year?? come on... :confused2:


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#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:41 PM

Yea i think he would be good to bring in and then Bring in Fanca to and move Carey to the RT and we would have a pretty good O-Line

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:42 PM

"phinfan0202 wrote:

Definately a good player but i don't know how much the Jets fans like D'Brick right now. They actually call him D'Bust.

I think it is fair to call him a bust as he shouldn't be getting dominated like he is now, he also seems to be too thin.

ChambersWIChambersWINew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:46 PM

"Desides wrote:

Topic should read "Jake Long, RT from Michigan," because the guy will not be playing LT in the NFL.

Ryan Clady will. Jeff Otah will. Jake Long will not. Jake Long is an NFL right tackle, and you have to wonder why in the hell we'd spend the #1 overall pick on a right tackle.

Long has been abused with frightening regularity this year, and did the J-O-B to Vernon Gholston two years in a row. If you get knocked around in college as Long does, you simply cannot be an NFL left tackle.

he gave up 1 sack to Gholston this year, and that was his only sack and he hasn't been penalized all year. How can you say he's regularly abused?!? If you're going to say someone sucks, atleast use true facts

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RalphX19XRalphX19XNew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:49 PM

Is it just me or does anyone else see Robert Gallery written all over him?

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:52 PM

"RalphX19X wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else see Robert Gallery written all over him?

I don't see that, but I don't think there were any signs that Gallery would be as big a bust as he is.

PAPassrusherNew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 02:52 PM

MANY NFL scouts don't think Jake Long has the athleticism to be a successful left tackle in the NFL. He will be a RT imo. He may do well as a left tackle in college but it's an entirely different world in the NFL.

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CACarabinieri44New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:08 PM

can someone explain to me what on earth is the difference between RT and LT, besides one is right, the other is left.

i dont quite get why someone is an excellent RT, but not LT. they are both doing the same job, protecting the QBs side (or blind side) from defensive ends usually. they both gotta be tall, quick, good feet, good hands.

i dont get it...

ChambersWIChambersWINew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:12 PM

RTs tend to be used primarily as run blockers, while LT's protect the QB's blind side

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Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:13 PM

"Carabinieri44 wrote:

can someone explain to me what on earth is the difference between RT and LT, besides one is right, the other is left.

i dont quite get why someone is an excellent RT, but not LT. they are both doing the same job, protecting the QBs side (or blind side) from defensive ends usually. they both gotta be tall, quick, good feet, good hands.

i dont get it...

Left tackles play against the premier pass rushers in the league and protects the quarterback blindside.

CACarabinieri44New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:15 PM

oh so the better guys like michael strahan and javon kearse go on the right side (our left side).

well what if ur Mark Brunell or some other left handed guy, u need a good RT to protect ur blindside.

houtzhoutzNew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:17 PM

"ChambersWI wrote:

he gave up 1 sack to Gholston this year, and that was his only sack and he hasn't been penalized all year. How can you say he's regularly abused?!? If you're going to say someone sucks, atleast use true facts

Sacks and penalties don't tell the whole story. He's gotten beat quite a few times this season. Forcing the quarterback to make bad throws or flushed out of the pocket. The #1 overall pick should be able to block anyone, never get beat and just be a great athlete. With all that said Jake Long is none of that.

Draft Chris Long, Gholston or DOrsey. Please no Jake Long

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:19 PM

"Carabinieri44 wrote:

oh so the better guys like michael strahan and javon kearse go on the right side (our left side).

well what if ur Mark Brunell or some other left handed guy, u need a good RT to protect ur blindside.

That is why the Cardinals drafted Levi Brown with the 5th pick, to play right tackle and protect Leinart's blindside.

ChambersWIChambersWINew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:20 PM

"houtz wrote:

Sacks and penalties don't tell the whole story. He's gotten beat quite a few times this season. Forcing the quarterback to make bad throws or flushed out of the pocket. The #1 overall pick should be able to block anyone, never get beat and just be a great athlete. With all that said Jake Long is none of that.

Draft Chris Long, Gholston or DOrsey. Please no Jake Long

I've watched every Michigan game for the past couple years. Trust me, Long is not the problem on the OL. Never has been

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houtzhoutzNew Member
Jan 1, 2008, 03:22 PM

"ChambersWI wrote:

I've watched every Michigan game for the past couple years. Trust me, Long is not the problem on the OL. Never has been

No one said he wasn't good. But he's not worth our #1 overall. He never has been and never will.

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