Is there anyone else concerned

And how is this a bad thing? Is there something wrong with going 13-3?

"dolpns13 wrote:

And how is this a bad thing? Is there something wrong with going 13-3?

Exactly. I'd try and pilfer any and all I could from that organization.

Theres nothing wrong with it, like I said in the post. I just don't see Dallas as an elite team and I would prefer to have my own Identity.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Exactly. I'd try and pilfer any and all I could from that organization.

right, I can't believe some fans complain (not saying this is a complain thread) about raiding tha Cowboys. This is the second year in a row they made the playoffs. They are successful and we are not. I say raid them as much as possible

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

Theres nothing wrong with it, like I said in the post. I just don't see Dallas as an elite time and I would prefer to have my own Identity.

they were second in the NFL in scoring, they are elite. Not elite in terms of NE, but they are definately elite in their conference

"dolpns13 wrote:

right, I can't believe some fans complain (not saying this is a complain thread) about raiding tha Cowboys. This is the second year in a row they made the playoffs. They are successful and we are not. I say raid them as much as possible

No read the post again.
Not a complaint thread. Like I said I would just like to have my own identity. I would hate to see Miami become a clone of another team.

"dolpns13 wrote:

they were second in the NFL in scoring, they are elite. Not elite in terms of NE, but they are definately elite in their conference

How about elite in the NFC the sub division?
There is 2 playoff teams in that division and the rest are pretenders.
there are teams in the AFC that didn't make the playoffs that can go to the NFC and be a leader.
I really don't think they can perform weekend and week out in AFC.
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we are making this into a Dallas thread and it is not.
The point I'm trying to make is we ae going to be Dallas and I'm not saying it is a bad thing. I'm just asking is that what fans would like to see in Miami?

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

No read the post again.
Not a complaint thread. Like I said I would just like to have my own identity. I would hate to see Miami become a clone of another team.

I just said this. I dont care who we have to get to get this team turned around.. Would you rather we hired a bunch of college coaches with no experience like the road we have taken before, or raid a team that is successful

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

No read the post again.
Not a complaint thread. Like I said I would just like to have my own identity. I would hate to see Miami become a clone of another team.

I think to some extent the players define your identity. So when we have a squad we will have a different identity than them...just a similar philosophy.

Dallas is a solid fundamental team. If they aren't in your elite group..well they aren't many moves away from being there. If we could move in that direction we will be much improved.

My concern is more of our head coach. I don't know Tony Sparano and I can't evaluate him, but I fervently want a guy that is more than a Parcells yes man.

"Mrtree wrote:

I think to some extent the players define your identity. So when we have a squad we will have a different identity than them...just a similar philosophy.

Dallas is a solid fundamental team. If they aren't in your elite group..well they aren't many moves away from being there. If we could move in that direction we will be much improved.

My concern is more of our head coach. I don't know Tony Sparano and I can't evaluate him, but I fervently want a guy that is more than a Parcells yes man.

I can see what you are saying with regards to Sparano.
I would assume that he is a Parcells Puppet as well.
BUT I hear that he is a very I stress VERY good coach.
I know Flozell Adams by ways of a close friend and he has said that Sparano is a Great coach that really knows his stuff.
I trust what he says but Parcells is going to controll the guy for a while (again not a bad thing) but when the Tuna leaves where will that leave us?
I mean we could have the greatest coach of all times on our hand and only time will tell.
I just want a guy that will be a winner and stay for a decade or so.

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

I can see what you are saying with regards to Sparano.
I would assume that he is a Parcells Puppet as well.
BUT I hear that he is a very I stress VERY good coach.
I know Flozell Adams by ways of a close friend and he has said that Sparano is a Great coach that really knows his stuff.
I trust what he says but Parcells is going to controll the guy for a while (again not a bad thing) but when the Tuna leaves where will that leave us?
I mean we could have the greatest coach of all times on our hand and only time will tell.
I just want a guy that will be a winner and stay for a decade or so.

I couldn't even begin to evaluate a new head coach. I have nothing tangible to hold onto. This guy could end up being a HOFer and taking us to Super Bowls. I just hope he has more to him than being a Parcells mouthpiece.

"dolpns13 wrote:

And how is this a bad thing? Is there something wrong with going 13-3?

Nonsense

"REV KEV wrote:

Nonsense

r u being sarcastic?

"dolpns13 wrote:

r u being sarcastic?

No I was agrreing with you..., 13-3 who can argue with that...?, that's nonsense..., similar to the guy who wrote that Indy was built wrong... 13-3 who can argue with that...?

Total nonsense

y is that a bad thing. they are a championship caliber team. plus we never fired a LB coach so we cant sign dallas's

I read where the Ravens were really impressed with Jason Garrett and are having him come for a second interview. I'm hoping we'll so the same because we might end up vying for the same coaches.

Oh, the answer to the initial post, is not really; There's always been a merry-go-round where coaches are concerned, and we've got to have some, and they have to come from somewhere... might as well be those that the new regime's comfortable with, it certainly would make the transition smoother.

At the end of the day ... do we consider the PATS, JETS, 'BOYS all 'clones' of the GIANTS ...

I don't believe that .. as each team was different - if for no other reason than that of the different QBs. There are other examples as well ... but this was the easiest.

There is no way we would be a clone of the 'BOYS, because our personnel will be different. The philosophy will be the same - but how it carried out on the field is determined by your roster.

Most certainly, ours will be different.

Concerned?? I'm ecstatic!!

"dredd1050 wrote:

Concerned?? I'm ecstatic!!

post of the day

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

No read the post again.
Not a complaint thread. Like I said I would just like to have my own identity. I would hate to see Miami become a clone of another team.

The Cowboys are a product of BP identity and so he will mold the Dolphins as such.

"dolpns13 wrote:

they were second in the NFL in scoring, they are elite. Not elite in terms of NE, but they are definately elite in their conference

Agreed.

Now, lets see what else they did last year....they lost to New England 27-48; they beat Buffalo 25-24; and they slaughtered the Jets 34-3. I'll take that over our past season any given day.

"FinaticalOne wrote:

Agreed.

Now, lets see what else they did last year....they lost to New England 27-48; they beat Buffalo 25-24; and they slaughtered the Jets 34-3. I'll take that over our past season any given day.

This is what I am talking about.
Dallas is a Very good team in the NFC.
But I'm not so sure they are the same team if they are playing in the AFC.

In order for us to win we need to be built to be NE period or we will alwasy end up short and no matter how good we become we will always be playing for a wild card spot.

I love Parcells coming in and changing the front office.
But I'm not so sure that the Dallas clone is the right thing. I did not see 1/2 enough of Dallas to make an assesment and I started the thread with the hopes that someone did and can give me insight. But from the little of Dallas that I've seen I'm concerned.

"BIG_FISH_RI wrote:

This is what I am talking about.
. But from the little of Dallas that I've seen I'm concerned.

And you should be, they're in the NFC, no where near the caliber of the AFC..I don't think Dalllas is 13-3 in the AFC..more like 9-6 this year....don't get me wrong, that team is going in the right direction.. I'd prefer to take NE's staff. They know what great players look like and should be able to do. Other staff's I wouldn't mind taking from are the Titians and the Jags...especially the Titian's staff, those guys built a good team after dismantling the old team..which btw, went to a superbowl...I think a combo of coachs from these 4 teams can help us a lot. Bill hasn't been to the SB since when...???. His DC from the Giants contstantly goes, or at least to the playoffs. Jeff Fisher's team went back this year and was a game away last year..this is a coach who picks good staff as well as good players.

You know I worried about this at first, but I warmed to this idea because of the one thing this team lacks..

Continuity...

These coaches have all worked together, know what they are all looking for and how and what the other demand from them.. That will make us that much better FASTER...

There is a working relationship already built in... The head coach will not be scared to go to Bill and say this is Bullshiet I need this or that...

Lets get our STAFF in place NOW and have a good 6 months Jump on everyone else in the leauge on preparing for next year...

Im on record as us winning 8 games next year...