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  1. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    Ok I am Glad that we are getting ready to sign Terry Glenn and from what I read so is everybody else. But I have a question there were a lot of people that absolutely did not want Keyshawn Johnson coming here to Miami and a lot of people want Terry Glenn to come to Miami. So why do people want Terry Glenn to come to Miami and they did not want Keyshawn Johnson ? They are both around the same age? Plus I think Terry Glenn is coming off a injury pledged season. Just wondering what you guys thought.

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    Steve
     
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  2. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    What do you guys think
     
  3. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'd guess because Johnson is kind of a loudmouth, and Glenn had a 1000+ yard season the year before last.

    I dunno, I dont really see why people would have a big problem with either of them. They are talented, veteran, role-playing receivers that we could utilize.
     
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  4. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    just what was said basically keyshawn I think is seen as more of a me first player where as terry is not I suppose. Not sure how valid that is. I would like either one though.
     
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  5. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    I'm not one of the Terry Glenn guys or Keyshaun...here's why to me...
    How many WRs are we going to keep...5 maybe ?? Well, there's Ginn, Hagan, Willford and Glenn...that's 4...Then there's Camarillo, Kircus, Bess, Foster, Dunlop, Armstrong and Young...let's say, for arguments sake Armstrong, Young and perhaps even Dunlop are camp fodder (although, they really are in the same boat as Bess and Foster)...Camarillo and Kircus are not eligible for PS and probably have a leg up on both guys due to their time in the league...I'll ask again...do you want to cut these guys or chance stashing them on the PS to get them that experience they might need ??

    No one is saying that either are the 'answer' to our WR issues, what I'm trying to say is that these guys need time to develop...even if it's on the PS, but someone is going to miss out...and it very well could be us (the team) a year or two down the road...We're not very close right now..it's time to let the younger guys develop...not toss them aside...Glenn's acquisiton won't suddenly make Beck, McCown or Henne any better than they are right now, given the state of the rest of the starters/potential starters on the offensive side of the ball...

    It's the same argument for letting JT go...do we keep him here, unhappy and take up a roster spot and still the team won't be significantly better for keeping him here...They chose to let him go and get somethign for the future for JT...it was a necessary and smart move to make...Adding Glenn is not a necessary or smart thing to do at this point for this team.
     
  6. jim1

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    Keyshawn is slow, Glenn is fast. I think that having Wilford removes the need for a possession type receive like Keyshawn.
     
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  7. PhinishLine

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    Glenn would be more suited to help out Tedd Ginn than Keyshawn, as Terry Glenn is a similar player to Tedd Ginn. Terry Glenn comes with less headache than Keyshawn, and despite his injury may be in better playing shape.
     
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  8. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    :up: I agree 100% :up:
     
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  9. DrAstroZoom

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    Also, Keyshawn has been completely removed from play for a year and has moved on to a post-football lifestyle.
     
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  10. m ino

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    yes but terry glenn is one "oh my knee" away from being in that same situation. glenns injuries and question of wether he can stay healthy a complete yr is what worries me. i have visions of both david boston/cris carter wrapped up in glenn. as long as we have some type of injury clause where we don't get stuck with him or the cap i suppose i wouldn't mind i also am not sold on moving the recievers down a notch to make room for glenn.

    with that said i am all for having a clear cut #1 reciever on this team that can contribute right away. but i have a funny feeling it will smell of porterism this yr meaning we probly hear well glenn didn't contribute as much as he shouldve due to the fact that
    a.he came into camp late and struggled to catch up
    b. he comes into camp with his knee still not 100% and it limits him on the field. and before anyone says "well he would have to pass a physical"...culpepper passed his.
     
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  11. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    It's simple really: Terry Glenn has much more big play potential and we already have plenty of possession-type receivers on our roster. We need a guy who can stretch the field and make the tough catches. Glenn can do both, and can be a decent mentor to our young guys.
     
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  12. mullingan

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    I also think Glenn must be in better football shape then Keyshawn. Glenn went through the off season with every intention of playing football this year. Keyshawn has not, so Glenn would obviously be better suited to come in an contribute immediately.
     
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  13. bkbuffet

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    Other than being a mentor, I don't see bringing Glenn in will help.
    Yes, he's been a very good receiver in the past.
    My biggest question would be his health. Knowing the type of talent he has, and the fact that the the Dallas WR's not named TO still have a lot to prove, why did Jones let him go?
    Did he even pass the physical in Dallas?

    That said, if it were a question of bringing in either Glenn or Johnson, I'd say 100% Glenn.
    Keyshawn is not a very good role model for a very young group of receivers trying to learn to play in the NFL. He earned the nickname 'Me-shawn' for a reason.

    The WR corp we have has been looking pretty good in camp so far, and I think we have just what we need already there for a team that is rebuilding.
     
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  14. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB


    True we are rebuilding - no question about that. But bringing Glenn in for a season isn't going to hurt. The front office is looking for ways to help this team be more competitive without compromising the effort to get younger, bigger, faster, etc. Bringing Glenn in is a good idea because he CAN be a mentor to some extent and he brings some leadership and not only can help the receivers, but he can also help our young QBs. When you have a mixture of young QBs AND young receivers, it's not a combination that's going to help get the guys through the growing pains. A veteran receiver, like Glenn, can help the receivers understand the nuances of the position as well as the QBs understand coverages and reads, etc. I think it's a good move and can go along way (IF he passes his physical and sticks) in the development of the young guys.
     
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  15. Larryfinfan

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    This is a very good argument for Glenn... the problem is that we don't know if he can stay healthy..he hasn't shown that in the last calendar year at Dallas...he's 34 yrs old. Is he done ?? I don't know, but if he does go out after a short stint here, we've lost a lot more than a few dollars, some experience and mentoring capability...we've probably lost the chance to bring along one of our youngsters to be in a position to contribute...JMHO, but I see this as too risky a move, given his injury history...
     
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  16. Stringer Bell

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    I'd take both. And it has nothing to do with what they can do on the field.

    They are both guys that could teach the younger ones good practice and preparation habits. How to study film. How to prepare during the week. Thats not something that can be overlooked.
     
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  17. Kanye West

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    Yes that is true but so has Terry Glenn with his injurys
     
  18. DrAstroZoom

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    There's a difference between being off for a year rehabbing and working to get back in the game and being off for a year as a talking suit.
     
  19. DOLFANMIKE

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    The season before last, Glenn had over 1,000 yards receiving and made some big plays. He also knows our current system better than anyone on our roster.
     
  20. Vengeful Odin

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    I'd rather have Terry Glenn as a mentor for Ted Ginn, Jr., than Keyshawn Johnson. Glenn and Ginn are very similar players, and have a lot in common.

    - They both went to Ohio State University
    - They both have last names that start with "G" and end with "NN"
    - Their first names start with "T"
    - They are similar height and build (Ginn is 5'11 180, Glenn 5'11 195)
    - Glenn was known as a speed receiver early in his career, much like Ginn is today.

    Glenn has been less of a loudmouth than Keyshawn, although Parcells has always been able to keep both of them in line. Maybe Bill considers Glenn to be the better teach of the two.
     
  21. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Right on, bro. That is the biggest issue: CAN he stay healthy. Or, to take it a step further, is he healthy enough NOW to don the pads and play. If he IS healthy and can STAY that way, we'd have a pretty good vet WR that could help us out. If not, then we go with what we have and hope our young guys can make it through the growing pains alone and possibly be the better for it.
     

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