Is there a chance we trade Beck to the Browns?

This crossed my mind yesterday but I don't think it has any legs. They need a vet, the last thing they need is a jumpy near rookie..

edit; Sooner than we like Beck might be really important to us.. remember that Penny is no spring chicken and our o-line is about to let him get roughed up. Penny nicked is one thing, Penny out and Beck becomes one heartbeat away.

"cnc66 wrote:

This crossed my mind yesterday but I don't think it has any legs. They need a vet, the last thing they need is a jumpy near rookie..

edit; Sooner than we like Beck might be really important to us.. remember that Penny is no spring chicken and our o-line is about to let him get roughed up. Penny nicked is one thing, Penny out and Beck becomes one heartbeat away.

So you think that if Penny gets injured they would put Beck in? I highly doubt that. In week 2, when we took Penny out, we put Henne in. That was pretty early in the season which means he had a lot less practice time. I think they would put Henne unless we are out of the hunt

The trade deadline has passed, so my bad

"dolfan94 wrote:

The trade deadline has passed, so my bad

Yeah.

We could move him in the offseason. Detroit maybe. They're looking to rebuild so a (basically) rookie QB that can be had for a low pick just might be worth trying out for them.

Beck might get us a 5th round pick at best after the season. I think the Big Tuna will draft yet another QB between rounds 4-6 to replace beck. If Miami trades down in the 1st round they might get one in round 3.

Beck will not see the field as a Dolphin next season. I am not saying he is a bust or a bum, just that he will not be with the fins. I hope they do not just release the man and get nothing in return.

Potential Teams:
* San Fran
* Vikings
* Bears
* Browns
* Jags
* Cowboys

I think he ends up as a #2 or #3 for one of the above teams. It just depends on what happens with teams back-ups. His age will not help the trade process, due to not having much experience at QB in the NFL.

Trade deadline has passed and plus we could not really get anything for him. We could get a 7th at best

My concern is Ronnie Brown, especially when his contract expires next year.. Do you guys think we bite the bullet and sign him to elite $$$ or let him go and draft a serviceable RB? They way they have been playing him I wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk when his contract expires.

If we don't pay him the money we try and get something for him. No way we let the guy just walk. I think we'll either give him a contract or try and get a decent pick for him.

"dolfan94 wrote:

So you think that if Penny gets injured they would put Beck in? I highly doubt that. In week 2, when we took Penny out, we put Henne in. That was pretty early in the season which means he had a lot less practice time. I think they would put Henne unless we are out of the hunt

While they may well put Henne in with a Pennington injury, trading Beck would still leave us in a very unstable situation at QB.
If Pennington is out then we're down to 2 QBs. Not having a backup for Henne would be way too shortsighted, don't you think?

We will keep John Beck, but we will shop him around, and what Qb Coach David Lee has to say will weigh heavily into any decision to peddle him for a 7th round pick.

He will have learned OC Henning's System, he works cheap, has some starting experience, and decent tools, for a #3 Qb you can do a heck of alot worse.

To trade Beck, we would have to be really confident that Pennington has put his injury troubles behind him, that is a steep bet to make in exchange for a token draft pick.

Beck will go to Dallas in the offseason. No doubt.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Should be fun watching him get 300 carries in another uniform and win an MVP somewhere.

I just don't understand why he isn't given the chance to run 22-25 times per game... I love our depth though.. If anything it is proving that he expendable.

I don't know if he is worth LT type money though. Nor do I know if he considered an elite runner to warrant big money. I guess time will tell.

"The Dude wrote:

Beck will go to Dallas in the offseason. No doubt.

No doubt, huh?

Just like that, you're going to make a bold assertion based on nothing?

I think Beck could go somewhere in a qb needed league, i don't see us getting anything better than a 5th though.

Ronnie's limited carries i think is two fold. One we have ricky for only this year and next, use him as we can. Two, even with split carries, they want to see ronnie survive a full season, healthy. If he can do that it might give them more confidence to give him more touches per game next year. He's only a year removed from his injury, why over work him now when you dont' have to.

If it gets crunch time to make the playoffs and ricky has any slowdowns, i could see ronnie getting the touches everyone thinks he should be getting.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Should be fun watching him get 300 carries in another uniform and win an MVP somewhere.

As long as Parcells and Company can still pluck the Marion Barber's of the world in the 4th round, it would not bother me a bit.

Crennel was on Sirius Radio today and said they would consider bringing in a veteran, I doubt they would be interested in Beck.

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

No doubt, huh?

Just like that, you're going to make a bold assertion based on nothing?

dallas wanted him earlier in the year and they have garbage backups...

Ronnie will re-sign him here in the future. Not that many teams need a RB and one that's going to be 28 years old hitting free agency at the time is not someone you sign long-term.
Again this is over-analyzing a stretch of a couple games where Ricky has been favored over Ronnie. Ricky is 31 years old, they aren't going to suddenly dump Ronnie, lose Ricky to retirement, and have to pick yet another top RB (nobody mention Cobbs as the future replacement). That's a waste of more picks that we'll have to use adjusting a new guy to the system. We have too many other needs.

As far as Beck, expect him to be dealt and a veteran backup like a Gus Frerrote or a mid-late round backup QB to be groomed over the long run. Heck you never know it might even be Beck, I don't see any reason to get a middle round pick and then spend a middle round pick just to get a QB that has never seen the system before.

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

No doubt, huh?

Just like that, you're going to make a bold assertion based on nothing?

Bro you could ask for a link or what is this based on? That way it comes off more friendlier.:wink2:

"FreeStyle wrote:

Aren't they going to go with Ken Dorsey?

yes Ken Dorsey is there QB this weekend.:wink2:

what's competence huh?

After years of post-marino era, watching so many garbage/retread qbs such as Ray lucas, Jay fieldler, Brian griese, AJ feeley, Cleo lemon, Joey harrington, Gus frerotte, Trent green, etc...

with one year of the new regime suddenly we're talking about shipping one of our QB's............
I think they already have all my respect.

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

No doubt, huh?

Just like that, you're going to make a bold assertion based on nothing?

Last year their were a'lot of rumor's that we were trying to trade Beck to Dallas, but Dallas only wanted to give us a 6 or 7 round pick for him , and we wanted more.

This rumor had 4 to 5 different sources, and anytime a rumor has that many sources it's kind of hard to not think it's real.

Then you add in the that Dallas's backup QB is not any good,so it would make more since than ever for that trade to go down.

So what that guy said was based on a that.

"anlgp wrote:

Yeah.

We could move him in the offseason. Detroit maybe. They're looking to rebuild so a (basically) rookie QB that can be had for a low pick just might be worth trying out for them.

I think if Detroit is going to go after a quarterback in the off-season they will want to get a vertern (like Donovan McNabb). they already have a young quarterback in Drew Stanton.

I see him going to the bears