Is Ryan Tannehill the long term solution at QB?
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"djphinfan wrote:
got to give credit where credit is due, to newton and shula...the man is averaging 9 carries a game...up about 20 %...ryan tanehills reps are down 70% this year....lol..
there is so much wrong and right in what I just wrote as it relates to both numbers...
but we dont want our boy to get urt...awwww so cute..
I would be okay if he just used his feet to get outside of the pocket putting pressure on the defense. Right now the defense can crowd the line of scrimmage knowing he isn't going to throw over them, blitz and rush knowing he is going to be right behind the center.
As you say, if he threw in a few runs keeping the defense honest that sure would help. Right now Tannehill is a Defensive Coordinators dream to plan for.
"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just threw another pick, 3 TOs in the first half.
And these clowns hate on Tannehill lmfao!!!
The lack of football knowledge is amazing, and disgusting.
So rather than consistently picking out QBs having a bad game and then be mocking, can you build a case based on Tannehill's actual body of work why he is the answer at QB?
"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just fumbled on the goal line.
Must suck.
Trolling.
"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just threw another pick, 3 TOs in the first half.
And these clowns hate on Tannehill lmfao!!!
The lack of football knowledge is amazing, and disgusting.
Trolling.
"yogi superstar wrote:
Andy Dalton got sacked on 3rd and 15. Must have held the ball too long.
Like Tannehill, right? Cuz it's always the QB's fault lol.
Trolling.
"yogi superstar wrote:
LOL, go watch Matthew Stafford right now.
That is a bad QB.
So much ignorance here.
One more for good measure.
djphinfansubscriber"yogi superstar wrote:
You are wasting your time, it's like trying to teach a dog to drive.
Why bother?
dude, im not sure who you think you are, but your act of calling people names indirectly is getting bothersome..your new here, show some respect for the board and how things are done here.
you'd be banned with a comment like that if I was a mod.
finsfandanforum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
dude, im not sure who you think you are, but your act of calling people names indirectly is getting bothersome..your new here, show some respect for the board and how things are done here.
Yep...
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yogi superstarNew Member"DolphinGreg wrote:
One more for good measure.
LOL, facts anger the haters.
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djphinfansubscriber"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just fumbled on the goal line.
Must suck.
what do you and res think you are proving with a statement like that?
yogi superstarNew Member"DolphinGreg wrote:
I think someone just got called out!
Namaste, brah!
We will just agree to disagree.
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djphinfansubscriber"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just threw another pick, 3 TOs in the first half.
And these clowns hate on Tannehill lmfao!!!
The lack of football knowledge is amazing, and disgusting.
res your no better then he for thanking this post..
this dude is a troll.
"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just threw another pick, 3 TOs in the first half.
And these clowns hate on Tannehill lmfao!!!
The lack of football knowledge is amazing, and disgusting.
Your childish reponses are ridiculous. This is a discussion forum. It is okay to disagree with individuals on here, but that doesn't make one persons opinion any more valid than someone else's.
Why they allow your immature comments to remain on this forum is beyond me. The moderators must be busy today watching football instead of monitoring this forum.
djphinfansubscriber"AdamC13 wrote:
I would be okay if he just used his feet to get outside of the pocket putting pressure on the defense. Right now the defense can crowd the line of scrimmage knowing he isn't going to throw over them, blitz and rush knowing he is going to be right behind the center.
As you say, if he threw in a few runs keeping the defense honest that sure would help. Right now Tannehill is a Defensive Coordinators dream to plan for.
yup..1 carry a game..and 1 rollout a game is proof enough..
yogi superstarNew MemberI'm entitled to my opinion as much as anybody else.
No matter how stupid it seems.
However, you don't have to read it. Feel free to block me.
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Bye Felicia!
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resnorforum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
res your no better then he for thanking this post..
this dude is a troll.
DJ, I never see you call out the anti-Tannehill trolls.
Regardless, I see people dump all over Tannehill for far less than 3 turnovers in one half.
yogi superstarNew Member"resnor wrote:
DJ, I never see you call out the anti-Tannehill trolls.
Regardless, I see people dump all over Tannehill for far less than 3 turnovers in one half.
Can you imagine what would happen here if he looked like Ryan does today in a half?
It would be UGLY.
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PhinFan1968subscriber"jw3102 wrote:
Your childish reponses are ridiculous. This is a discussion forum. It is okay to disagree with individuals on here, but that doesn't make one persons opinion any more valid than someone else's.
Why they allow your immature comments to remain on this forum is beyond me. The moderators must be busy today watching football instead of monitoring this forum.
That's no worse than several Tannehill critics do on the flip-side...and they're still here. If they can point out what other QBs do as a comparison to show they're better than ours, why can't the reverse also apply, particularly when it's QBs that they widely state are better than RT?
I will say this though, childish responses are fairly common these days...it's why I've basically kept from posting in mains threads.
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
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jdallen1222forum_veteranPeople seem to forget how rare good QBs are, and will be quick to condemn what they have because it isnt the best of the best. Franchise or not, we can all agree he is manageable, and better than the bottom half. So what do you do, you ****ing ride with it till something better comes along, which may take a while. This poll is dumb. So what if he isnt the longterm solution? There is nothing better here at the moment. What would you have the team do? Dont answer, I wont read. If this is anything like the other Tannehill threads, it will be closed soon because some people take this QB discussion too personally.
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yogi superstarNew Member"PhinFan1968 wrote:
That's no worse than several Tannehill critics do on the flip-side...and they're still here. If they can point out what other QBs do as a comparison to show they're better than ours, why can't the reverse also apply, particularly when it's QBs that they widely state are better than RT?
I will say this though, childish responses are fairly common these days...it's why I've basically kept from posting in mains threads.
Exactly. Just pointing out the shocking double standard these guys have. In one thread Matt Ryan is 1000 times better than Tannehill, but then when I point out that Ryan is not as good, and the facts bear that out, I am called a troll.
Which I believe would be a TOS violation?
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"yogi superstar wrote:
Matt Ryan just threw another pick, 3 TOs in the first half.
And these clowns hate on Tannehill lmfao!!!
The lack of football knowledge is amazing, and disgusting.
Irony................I don't post on here much but after seeing a few threads that you are active in I can objectively say that you are a joke. Put me on ignore next. Pu**y move by the way.
yogeNew Member"jdallen1222 wrote:
People seem to forget how rare good QBs are, and will be quick to condemn what they have because it isnt the best of the best. Franchise or not, we can all agree he is manageable, and better than the bottom half. So what do you do, you ****ing ride with it till something better comes along, which may take a while. This poll is dumb. So what if he isnt the longterm solution? There is nothing better here at the moment. What would you have the team do? Dont answer, I wont read. If this is anything like the other Tannehill threads, it will be closed soon because some people take this QB discussion too personally.
You make a good point. And you do agree we need something better at the QB position. But we are stuck like chuck for now and next season too and maybe beyond that.
"yogi superstar wrote:
I'm entitled to my opinion as much as anybody else.
No matter how stupid it seems.
However, you don't have to read it. Feel free to block me.
Have a great day!
Bye Felicia!
I have absolutely no problem with you posting a valid opinion on here, even if I disagree with it. That is what these forums are all about.
What I do have is problem with is your personal attacks and your assumption you know more about football than others on here. Because based on several of your comments, it appears you care more about making snide comments about other posters than you do about actually posting comments relevant to the discussion on the thread.
djphinfansubscriber"DolphinGreg wrote:
Yeah, I think we all saw how well Tannehill ran it during certain games last year and it really seemed to help.
You know, I totally agree with your sentiment that Ryan should run more, but dude, he's not done it up until now and so there's probably no chance he's ever going to start doing that. That's the reason I say no, he's not a franchise guy who can be a long-term answer. After 4 years we're still talking "potential" and that's ridiculous.
Ryan is a guy who absolutely has the physical tools to be Aaron Rodgers but the difference between them is night and day. It just shows how much mental stuff is going on that we don't see.
In my eyes, the Alex Smith comparisons are a little unfair because Alex Smith really sucks. He cannot see the field and really struggles badly to push the ball downfield without making huge mistakes. In my eyes, Tannehill has the ability to be better than Smith but to often he looks very much like him. The fact that Tannehill looks like Smith in maybe 1/3rd of his games is an awful criticism that is unfortunately kind of true.
To me, Alex Smith is a huge reason why whatever team he's on is never going to win it all. There are simply things Alex Smith cannot do and which are required to really beat a good defense. Tannehill--while somewhat better--seems only to be by a small margin.
If I was rooting for another team and they were playing Tannehill, I know I would't be scared.
I'm starting to really believe the people who say that by the time the team is good enough to carry Tannehill to the Play-offs it'll be good enough to carry someone else as well. I think we have to consider that. At some point we may be better off taking a shot on someone else if we know Tannehill just doesn't have the top gear in him. Middle-class can be found pretty easily so long as the coaching is decent.
well, I know he hasnt show the conscientous attack as a dual threat qb would do the past 3 and 1/2 years so your probably right..Im gonna give him one more chance in buffalo, cause thats the thing and why I stress that this is a key component to his future, we have seen how affective he is at all the things he's currently avoiding..lol, it doesnt make any sense..think about it..
he is deft and rolling right and left ad throwing with accuracy, his production numbers they are off the charts..
he's awesome when he used to decide on rare occassion to keep the zone read play, was averaging about 6 yards a carry for two whole years
and after the super rare occassion he decided to run unscripted, it was always really positive production and seemed to spark the team and put him in rhythm...but those occassions are so rare now their not even worth talking about..
because he did these things so well, and yet so liitle..{only averaged 3 carries a game over his career} a smart coordinator would of added reps on all three facets surely not cutting them in half to a resounding 1.75 carries a game..1 rollout a game, and .5 unscripted.
Thats whats dsgusting, not the posters who this yoga dude called disgusting, its the complete disregard of a players strengths at the most important position in the face of discernable variables that are logically asking for them to happen.
"PhinFan1968 wrote:
That's no worse than several Tannehill critics do on the flip-side...and they're still here. If they can point out what other QBs do as a comparison to show they're better than ours, why can't the reverse also apply, particularly when it's QBs that they widely state are better than RT?
I will say this though, childish responses are fairly common these days...it's why I've basically kept from posting in mains threads.
I agree that childish or demeaning comments have become all too common on this forum. I don't visit it as often because it appears we have more young people on here who just don't want to have an adult discussion. They prefer to imply they know more than other posters about football or they simply go to negative comments thinking this somehow makes them appear superior.
Instead it only shows their lack of ability to give an intelligent respond to the issues on a given thread.
yogi superstarNew MemberSo why is that when Tannehill does things, like get sacked, throw an int. get a pass tipped etc. It's ALL on him. But when QBs who we are told are much better do the same things, it doesn't count???
The reason I am pointing out what other QBs are doing is because I am watching them. I see QBs throw bad passes for picks (Ryan), sacked on 3rd and long (dalton) just look like a rookie (Stafford). Every one of these QBs are said to be better than Tannehill, over and over again.
So how exactly does pointing this out make me a troll???
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resnorforum_veteran"jw3102 wrote:
I have absolutely no problem with you posting a valid opinion on here, even if I disagree with it. That is what these forums are all about.
What I do have is problem with is your personal attacks and your assumption you know more about football than others on here. Because based on several of your comments, it appears you care more about making snide comments about other posters than you do about actually posting comments relevant to the discussion on the thread.
Just to go slightly off topic here, but I've seen many of the anti-Tannehill posters make snide remarks, and personal attacks, and not get banned.
Now back to regularly scheduled programming.