Is Miami really a sports town?

By the way, THOUSANDS of Heat fans did not leave the arena with a minute left to play. The number has been approximated at about 200 people. Out of 19,000.

"ckparrothead wrote:

By the way, THOUSANDS of Heat fans did not leave the arena with a minute left to play. The number has been approximated at about 200 people. Out of 19,000.

I agree, but this is what happens when you already have the stigma attached, the media likes to sh&$ on south Florida sports culture..

Did you see the shot of the fans leaving outside the building then trying to return when they found out, the security guards were pushing them outside, blocking the doors and trying to shut them in their faces...pretty funny..

Imo, if you wanna change the perception of south Florida sports culture, your gonna have to do something crazy, like some sort of public campaign on how to be a great home crowd.

"djphinfan wrote:

theres no link dude, it's not an article, I was interested so I went and did the research.what I found out is that most of the fans where I went which was a fan website, would rather the team be playing in the old stadium if it was just about football, they feel that the new stadium has no Intimacy, a mausoleum feel, and the old one they were right on top of the action and could generate an electricity that cannot be duplicated in the new one.

Go to a Seattle message board and ask the question about their 12th man relative to their stadium..

Same things we heard about JRS when it opened. Anyone who had the privilege to attend a Fins game in the OB can't compare the feeling in JRS. That said, things are different now. The NFL is well aware it can't enhance the game much, it's done all that it can. It can't change the cost to the average fan. The costs of going to games has grown exponentially and a family of 4 really can't afford it any longer (a lot like where the NBA finds itself at). It has to change and enhance the experience of going to the games to grow revenues. Steven Ross knows this, that's why he lobbied so hard to get this stadium revamped. Its just ashamed that a few small town politicians have affected the opinions of voters (when they actually let the voters have a say).

Time to wake up, SFL...out with the old, in with the better...

"ckparrothead wrote:

By the way, THOUSANDS of Heat fans did not leave the arena with a minute left to play. The number has been approximated at about 200 people. Out of 19,000.

That about what I'd estimate it to have been.

Also, the notion that Miami fans are unique in leaving early in an undecided game or that it makes Miami not a sports town is nonsense. Just a week ago, large numbers of Bruins fans left Game 7 against Toronto early and missed a historic comeback.

http://www.rawcharge.com/2013/5/16/4332498/fans-leaving-boston-bruins-2013-ECQF-game-7-early-miss-historic-comeback-rant

http://www.necn.com/05/14/13/Bruins-fan-discusses-leaving-Mondays-gam/landing.html?blockID=840945

Are Boston fans bad fans? Is Boston not a sports town? Every city and every team has some fans that leave games early and occasionally live to regret it.

"Fineas wrote:

That about what I'd estimate it to have been.

Also, the notion that Miami fans are unique in leaving early in an undecided game or that it makes Miami not a sports town is nonsense. Just a week ago, large numbers of Bruins fans left Game 7 against Toronto early and missed a historic comeback.

http://www.rawcharge.com/2013/5/16/4332498/fans-leaving-boston-bruins-2013-ECQF-game-7-early-miss-historic-comeback-rant

http://www.necn.com/05/14/13/Bruins-fan-discusses-leaving-Mondays-gam/landing.html?blockID=840945

Are Boston fans bad fans? Is Boston not a sports town? Every city and every team has some fans that leave games early and occasionally live to regret it.

absolutely, but once you have that stigma attached it will always be sensationalized by the media, which they have demonstrated, their always looking for a reason jump on south Florida teams, were a punch line.

Every show today has dedicated a segment to the fans leaving..any other sports town this would not be happening..

Around the horn is about to do a circle jerk on heat fan.

"djphinfan wrote:

Every show today has dedicated a segment to the fans leaving..any other sports town this would not be happening..

Around the horn is about to do a circle jerk on heat fan.

Have to agree with Platschke on that one, it does add to the legend of the game.

10 yrs from now that will be remembered.

I would never leave any game early. I would hate to be the ones who miss out on something historic. They spent a lot of money to watch the heat the same way I did on TV

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Here's the good thing that could come of it...public shame will make you think twice maybe..

I don't understand why the proper execs don't tell their fans what to do at a game..launch a campaign, tell them you want them to be on time, tell them to get back to their seats before the 2nd half begins, tell them to stand and scream at the right timess, educate them on why it's important.

"ckparrothead wrote:

By the way, THOUSANDS of Heat fans did not leave the arena with a minute left to play. The number has been approximated at about 200 people. Out of 19,000.

Numerous reports estimate it at 2,000. Some sections were half empty. If you watched the 2 seconds of when they showed it on TV you could see a logjam of people leaving the exits of ONE section. No way it was only 200 people.

Meanwhile....the City of Jacksonville just gave the Jags 40 million for new video displays in the stadium. If Jags got the Superbowl before us......

"Bumrush wrote:

Numerous reports estimate it at 2,000. Some sections were half empty. If you watched the 2 seconds of when they showed it on TV you could see a logjam of people leaving the exits of ONE section. No way it was only 200 people.

There's no way it was 2000. That is more than 10% of the bldg. Not even close. I don't think there were any sections that were half empty. Look at the crown in any of the videos of the Allen 3 pt shot -- none show any appreciable number of empty seats.

"djphinfan wrote:

I would do it as well of course but not for myself, but because I know how a true home field advantage can help a team, and it's culture.

Exactly. The visibility and comfort are better in Sunlife, but I could sacrifice that in a second to give our team a greater home field advantage.

"djphinfan wrote:

Every show today has dedicated a segment to the fans leaving..any other sports town this would not be happening..

Around the horn is about to do a circle jerk on heat fan.

It happened last week in Boston in a Game 7. Sports shows and blogs talked about it.

It happened in NY in 2000 in the "Monday Night Miracle." It happened more recently in NY in 2010 in a game against the Texans.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/for-jet-fans-who-left-early-regrets-and-recriminations/

It has happened many times in Philly. http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/28/andy-reid-desean-jackson-and-endings-for-eagles/

It has happened in Pittsburgh.

When James Jones caught a touchdown pass with 2 minutes, 6 seconds, the Packers went ahead, 36-30.

Then something else happened. Thousands of fans got up and began heading for the exits.

They missed one of the great finishes in Steelers' history. Roethlisberger's 19-yard touchdown pass to Mike Wallace as time expired plus the subsequent extra point gave Pittsburgh an exhilarating one-point victory.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/115342754.html

And it has happened in Green Bay.

Certainly there have been times when Lambeau Field has emptied when the Packers were being routed. An example would have been the 48-27 loss to Tennessee on a Monday night in October 2004.

Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians was coaching running backs for Kansas City when the Chiefs crushed the Packers, 21-3 in 1989 and then 17-3 in 1990, at Lambeau Field.

"I saw them walk out of there when we were beating them," Arians remembered. "Christian Okoye was running it down their throats."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/115342754.html

It happens everywhere. In any crowd of tens of thousands of people, there will always be some that leave early when they think the game is out of reach (whether or not it really is). I have personally seen it in NY, Philly, Indianapolis and LA.

"PhinishLine wrote:

Meanwhile....the City of Jacksonville just gave the Jags 40 million for new video displays in the stadium. If Jags got the Superbowl before us......

good for them, building their culture, investing your fanbase into the team.

"Fineas wrote:

It happened last week in Boston in a Game 7. Sports shows and blogs talked about it.

It happened in NY in 2000 in the "Monday Night Miracle." It happened more recently in NY in 2010 in a game against the Texans.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/for-jet-fans-who-left-early-regrets-and-recriminations/

It has happened many times in Philly. http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/28/andy-reid-desean-jackson-and-endings-for-eagles/

It has happened in Pittsburgh.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/115342754.html

And it has happened in Green Bay.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/115342754.html

It happens everywhere. In any crowd of tens of thousands of people, there will always be some that leave early when they think the game is out of reach (whether or not it really is). I have personally seen it in NY, Philly, Indianapolis and LA.

This is the nba finals, and the scenario was not that far fetched.

does it make sportscenter and every other news vehicle outlet like Miami does?... This is perception continuing to damage the culture.

"djphinfan wrote:

good for them, building their culture, investing your fanbase into the team.

Off topic but anyone see plans for the falcons new stadium? Nothing like it

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"djphinfan wrote:

This is the nba finals, and the scenario was not that far fetched.

does it make sportscenter and every other news vehicle outlet like Miami does?... This is perception continuing to damage the culture.

This is the NBA Finals, which is why it gets more attention. But it is also why it is somewhat more understandable why many fans leave early. In regular games (in any sport), the visiting team doesn't have a very long and public victory/championship celebration on your own court/field after the game. It's a pretty distasteful thing that many of the people who left cited as their reason for leaving.

"Fineas wrote:

There's no way it was 2000. That is more than 10% of the bldg. Not even close. I don't think there were any sections that were half empty. Look at the crown in any of the videos of the Allen 3 pt shot -- none show any appreciable number of empty seats.

I bet it was closer to 2000 than 200 though. A lot of peole were filing out of that stadium.

"Jt0323 wrote:

Off topic but anyone see plans for the falcons new stadium? Nothing like it

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Yeah, the mock-up looks pretty awesome!

http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/18/atlanta-falcons-new-stadium-plan-approved/?section=si_latest

I sometimes get up from my seat and head to the hall and watch from there (you can still see the field). You need to get a jump on the mob sometimes.

"Fineas wrote:

This is the NBA Finals, which is why it gets more attention. But it is also why it is somewhat more understandable why many fans leave early. In regular games (in any sport), the visiting team doesn't have a very long and public victory/championship celebration on your own court/field after the game. It's a pretty distasteful thing that many of the people who left cited as their reason for leaving.

I see that side of it, I just never felt that the game was completely out of reach, and considering the circumstances it was kinda bush, up until then I have started to see a much better heat fan at the stadium, one that at least attempts to make a difference,and with that venue, if they really wanted to, they could get pretty intimidating.

"gandalfin wrote:

Yeah, the mock-up looks pretty awesome!

http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/18/atlanta-falcons-new-stadium-plan-approved/?section=si_latest

I love these articles on the new stadiums, here's why, any new concept for a stadium that doesn't revolve around the facility being built to intimidate the opponent and bring the fans closest to the action as possible is making a huge mistake..think about it, talk about a draw, your building the venue with the intention of getting fans closest to the action as law would permit..think about that marketing campaign and how excited your fanbase would be..You wanna talk about " the experience"..... That's the way the owner should go,the 12 th man concept as your leading headline baby..of course you can put all your bells and whistles on it, wifi, big screens, etc..

It's a revolutionary idea that I hope noone ever gets except us.

"Justright wrote:

I bet it was closer to 2000 than 200 though. A lot of peole were filing out of that stadium.

Shocking that you would post that.

"djphinfan wrote:

I agree, but this is what happens when you already have the stigma attached, the media likes to sh&$ on south Florida sports culture..

Did you see the shot of the fans leaving outside the building then trying to return when they found out, the security guards were pushing them outside, blocking the doors and trying to shut them in their faces...pretty funny..

Imo, if you wanna change the perception of south Florida sports culture, your gonna have to do something crazy, like some sort of public campaign on how to be a great home crowd.

Fans don't care what ESPN thinks about us. This happpens in plenty of arenas and ESPN always wants to make a big deal out of Miamians doing it. Who cares? We're used to it....

The Heat fan is just fine. Top 3 in the NBA right now.