Is anyone REALLY surprised?

"MonstBlitz wrote:

No. Same mediocre Dolphins. Build our hopes only to crush them.

Dunno how long you been a fan, but it's your own fault if you get your hopes built up too much when it comes to this team. Better take a "show me" approach.

"jw3102 wrote:

Actually the Bills defensive line is one of the best in the entire NFL. Perhaps you missed the fact that the Bills lead the NFL in sacks and that was even before the seven sacks they had against the Dolphins today.

The defense of the Bills hasn't been the problem this year. They were just inconsistent on offense and they didn't show up for every game they played, just as the Dolphins didn't show up today. The fact is that if the Bills get good play from the QB position next year, they have a lot of talent on their roster and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't end up being a bigger threat to the Patriots in the AFC East than the Dolphins are next year.

Doesn' tmatter because there record overall is pathetic and to lose the way they did leaves no room for excuses. I can understand if a team is getting beaten up but still beats Buffalo, like the other 9 teams or so that have done that to them but to not only lose but lose in a manner that Miami did today, that is just unreal.

No. If ever there was a team built to be the nemesis of this years Dolphins it was the Bills. The Phins who have been dependent on Tannehill and the passing attack to carry them (with occasional guest appearance of the running game) and who lead the league in sacks surrendered, against the Bills - league leaders in sacks, 2nd in ints and 3rd in QB rating against (after today). A more balanced team might have fared better but this one dimensional Dolphins team much as I hoped they could pull something out after the last couple of weeks - not really a shock unfortunately.

I'm not surprised we lost. I am surprised with the way it went down.

I expected this to be a close game (because Dolphins 2013) which could go either way.

This was a crushing defeat though. They dominated us for the entire game. It's a disappointing feeling that we now need help to make the playoffs.

I'd love to see a Dolphins playoff game this year, but my confidence in the team is pretty shot.

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What will surprise me is if they don't get rid of every starter on the o-line, save Pouncey, in the offseason.

surprised we couldnt score even 1 point against buffalo? yeah, i am shocked as hell. mike sherman should be shot in the f**king temple. how dumb can one man be...

Once again I feel betrayed by this team. Ever since Shues left, this team has left me hanging at times, when you think they are turning the corner. This is just another example. We put the pasties in their place, we beat a Pitts team that was really hot and then we play a team we should beat and lay an egg. Once again. I'm not belittling the jills, but we should have beaten them.

Maybe because Philbin is so even tempered it causes them to not be ready for certain games, but geez, this is a game they should have been ready for, even if the staff wasn't. They were not. I don't know that it's the staff or if it's the overall quality of players we have or the Martin-gate thing finally being caught up or what, but I'll tell you this much. I have NO confidence that we'll beat the jests and at least give ourselves a shot at getting into the playoffs. It would be a real shame for us to lay yet another egg against the jests and have Cincy whup up the Ravens, as it appears right now they will....

It's pretty disgusting to be a DolFan right now....

We aren't gonna lay an egg vs the Jets. Look at half the teams fighting for a spot..they layed eggs. Baltimore did so at home. The loss to Buffalo in Buffalo?? Prffff what ever. Dont lose sleep over it.

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"Tin Indian wrote:

What will surprise me is if they don't get rid of every starter on the o-line, save Pouncey, in the offseason.

As much as it's needed - I wouldn't be surprised if wholesale changes are NOT made. Changes will be made of course, but wouldn't surprise me if they keep some or most of the current guys. Look at the Bears The past 2-3 years (excluding this year). Their line was atrocious - cutler would get HAMMERED every time is see them play...or he was running for his life. Seemed the obvious glaring weekness, yet for multiple years they did nothing to address their piss-poor line, and cutler continued to get crushed.

that happens to Tannehill for multiple years, it may ruin him.

Not surprised at all, this team is a pretender. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs and would only be one-and-done if we do get in. That hurt so bad to type, but it is time for honesty.

"PhinsRock wrote:

Not surprised at all, this team is a pretender. We don't deserve to be in the playoffs and would only be one-and-done if we do get in. That hurt so bad to type, but it is time for honesty.

Ya if you completely forget that we already beat Indy, Cincy, and NE then we're totally a 1 and done.

Ignorance is the best bliss on the market.

"slickj101 wrote:

Ya if you completely forget that we already beat Indy, Cincy, and NE then we're totally a 1 and done.

Ignorance is the best bliss on the market.

1. We beat all three at their weakest, look at that a little closer
2. And frankly we were lucky to get each one of those wins

Smoke & mirrors, if we played each of those teams in a three or five game series, I would make book we would lose all but maybe one game against each one.

Ignorance is using a sampling that ignores the facts.

"PhinsRock wrote:

1. We beat all three at their weakest, look at that a little closer
2. And frankly we were lucky to get each one of those wins

Smoke & mirrors, if we played each of those teams in a three or five game series, I would make book we would lose all but maybe one game against each one.

Ignorance is using a sampling that ignores the facts.

lol Like your, "facts" that lack any info, right.

Ya anyone who makes up their own facts never has room for ignorance ;)

"PhinsRock wrote:

1. We beat all three at their weakest, look at that a little closer
2. And frankly we were lucky to get each one of those wins

Smoke & mirrors, if we played each of those teams in a three or five game series, I would make book we would lose all but maybe one game against each one.

Ignorance is using a sampling that ignores the facts.

Luck plays a major part when it comes to winning and losing in the NFL. I linked an article that showed the variance of luck is responsible for approximately 52.5% of the outcomes in the NFL.

Miami, Indianapolis, and Buffalo are all 4-4 against teams with winning records this year. Cincinnati is 3-3 against teams with winning records.

Cincinnati is 7-2 against teams with losing records. Indianapolis is 6-1. Miami is 4-3. Good teams take care of business against weaker opponents. The fact that Miami is 4-3 against these opponents shows that they are not much better than them from a skills standpoint, and variance has dictated a lot of their 4-4 record vs winning teams and 4-3 record vs losing teams.

Luck is a victim of his OC in the same way Tannehill is. Both of their OCs defuse to play to the strengths of their offense.

Both will be much better off when that zit is popped.

"slickj101 wrote:

Luck is a victim of his OC in the same way Tannehill is.

Both will be much better off when that zit is popped.

Ah, the illusion of control. Somehow, the offensive coordinator has more control over the execution of plays than the players do.

"KB21 wrote:

Ah, the illusion of control. Somehow, the offensive coordinator has more control over the execution of plays than the players do.

Who's telling Daniel Thomas to block Marcell Darius?

"slickj101 wrote:

Who's telling Daniel Thomas to block Marcell Darius?

Considering that Daniel is terrible at recognizing who he needs to be blocking, it is hard to pin that on the OC.

"KB21 wrote:

Considering that Daniel is terrible at recognizing who he needs to be blocking, it is hard to pin that on the OC.

You mean the OC is too dumb to realize this after how many years?

"slickj101 wrote:

You mean the OC is too dumb to realize this after how many years?

....and he's been given who by the GM so we don't have to use Daniel Thomas? Remember, this GM picked Thomas in the 2nd round of the draft.

"KB21 wrote:

....and he's been given who by the GM so we don't have to use Daniel Thomas? Remember, this GM picked Thomas in the 2nd round of the draft.

And out of the however many Rbs we've had in camp he never found anyone better for that play? Yet he knows DT can't pull it off and tries it anyway?

Seems to me a pragmatic man would either go away from this play call or have someone else in whom they thought could do the job. Unless of course you have a Philbin hated DT source ready to go.

I watched the game with a Bills fan and told him before the game I don't like this match up. They are the Dolphins kryptonite. They run the ball really well, we don't stop the run very well anymore. They wreak havoc on OL's and opposing QB's. We have the worst OL in the NFL. I figured we'd need 2 turnovers to win this game with the defense probably scoring one of them. We didn't show up but at the same time, they match up very well against our roster weakness.

Nope not surprised but would like to see a solid win over the Jests, Jests, Jests just for Cromartie's sake and maybe make a lil playoff cheddar. Then see where our off season heads too. Pick up some better free agent O-Lineman for starters among other things. That and not see my fellow Fin fans argue less about so many trivial things. :yes:

"mlb1399 wrote:

I watched the game with a Bills fan and told him before the game I don't like this match up. They are the Dolphins kryptonite. They run the ball really well, we don't stop the run very well anymore. They wreak havoc on OL's and opposing QB's. We have the worst OL in the NFL. I figured we'd need 2 turnovers to win this game with the defense probably scoring one of them. We didn't show up but at the same time, they match up very well against our roster weakness.

One of the reasons that the Bills run the ball so well is LT Cordy Glenn, who was drafted one pick ahead of Jonathan Martin in 2012. Then and obviously now I liked him way better than Martin, would have been nice to get him.

"slickj101 wrote:

Luck is a victim of his OC in the same way Tannehill is. Both of their OCs defuse to play to the strengths of their offense.

Both will be much better off when that zit is popped.

Hey, it scares me when we agree on something! :lol: