Is Adam Gase the biggest scam in football???

Well he was sold to us as an offensive genius, and every year on the dolphins we struggled to score points and were on the bottom of most categories that said otherwise, so yes id say he was a scam to us.

We will see if he learned anything and turns the Jets around.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Well he was sold to us as an offensive genius, and every year on the dolphins we struggled to score points and were on the bottom of most categories that said otherwise, so yes id say he was a scam to us.

We will see if he learned anything and turns the Jets around.

I thought he was a coach who could take what Miami had and get the best out of it.

He turned out to be the opposite. More of the same.

Yes, I totally agree. As us hopeful fans are, we bought into the hype machine. He worked with Manning and Cutler and Stafford, yada yada yada. BS! Yeah, like he made Manning. Ha! It is more like the other way around.

I made a thread about him, i think it was after his second year and I mentioned how he has such an out of control ego. I hated how, in his press conferences after a loss, he would blame the players and take no responsibility and blame for himself. Right or wrong, that is what all good coaches with character do.

His play calling? It sucked. He would abandon everything at the slightest bit of adversity. Never stuck to his supposed principles and plan. Running it on 3rd and long and passing on 3rd and short, etc. The f'ing bubble screens. What a joke. He never used his players to their strengths. Constantly tried to fit square pegs into round holes or whatever.

I could list numerous examples if I had the time. He had no character and no humility. Now, as fans, we learn from our mistakes or misjudgments and at the very least we can say, at this point , is that Flores has a million times the character of that a-hole. That is obvious.

QB whisperer my arse. He certainly didn't take Tanne to any special heights. He helped him into a back up role in Tennesee. Dudes, I can go on and on. This year, if nothing else, this team shows strong signs of building and doing things the right way and if we just beat the NJ Jerkoffs twice, I will be happy. I couldn't stand losing to that bug eyed little douche. F him. Good riddance.

Biggest scam? Probably not.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Well he was sold to us as an offensive genius, and every year on the dolphins we struggled to score points and were on the bottom of most categories that said otherwise, so yes id say he was a scam to us.

We will see if he learned anything and turns the Jets around.

the only thing that is gonna make it hard for people to figure this scam out, is Sam Darnold, I believe in that dude as a QB..gase got lucky.

"Sceeto wrote:

Yes, I totally agree. As us hopeful fans are, we bought into the hype machine. He worked with Manning and Cutler and Stafford, yada yada yada. BS! Yeah, like he made Manning. Ha! It is more like the other way around.

I made a thread about him, i think it was after his second year and I mentioned how he has such an out of control ego. I hated how, in his press conferences after a loss, he would blame the players and take no responsibility and blame for himself. Right or wrong, that is what all good coaches with character do.

His play calling? It sucked. He would abandon everything at the slightest bit of adversity. Never stuck to his supposed principles and plan. Running it on 3rd and long and passing on 3rd and short, etc. The f'ing bubble screens. What a joke. He never used his players to their strengths. Constantly tried to fit square pegs into round holes or whatever.

I could list numerous examples if I had the time. He had no character and no humility. Now, as fans, we learn from our mistakes or misjudgments and at the very least we can say, at this point , is that Flores has a million times the character of that a-hole. That is obvious.

QB whisperer my arse. He certainly didn't take Tanne to any special heights. He helped him into a back up role in Tennesee. Dudes, I can go on and on. This year, if nothing else, this team shows strong signs of building and doing things the right way and if we just beat the NJ Jerkoffs twice, I will be happy. I couldn't stand losing to that bug eyed little douche. F him. Good riddance.

you cant take two players and their skillsets that demonstrate what a scam this dude was..

Head coach is supposed to use his players skillsets to their advanatage, to expoit the strengths.

Tannehill and Gesicki were horribly hooribly missused skillsets..don't get me wrong, I dontlike either player but their skillsets were not used correctly.

but man, im not an x's and o's guy, but to see a team practice that long without their head coach being front and center, not teaching the game,not getting in his players faces, not coaching like a leader...so very poor traits.

"djphinfan wrote:

the only thing that is gonna make it hard for people to figure this scam out, is Sam Darnold, I believe in that dude as a QB..gase got lucky.

That's one eval of yours I disagree with. I think Darnold will at best be average because I don't think he'll ever fix his accuracy issues even though he can make great plays on occasion. Time will tell. Lots of reasons to follow the Jets lol.

"Sceeto wrote:

Yes, I totally agree. As us hopeful fans are, we bought into the hype machine. He worked with Manning and Cutler and Stafford, yada yada yada. BS! Yeah, like he made Manning. Ha! It is more like the other way around.

I made a thread about him, i think it was after his second year and I mentioned how he has such an out of control ego. I hated how, in his press conferences after a loss, he would blame the players and take no responsibility and blame for himself. Right or wrong, that is what all good coaches with character do.

His play calling? It sucked. He would abandon everything at the slightest bit of adversity. Never stuck to his supposed principles and plan. Running it on 3rd and long and passing on 3rd and short, etc. The f'ing bubble screens. What a joke. He never used his players to their strengths. Constantly tried to fit square pegs into round holes or whatever.

I could list numerous examples if I had the time. He had no character and no humility. Now, as fans, we learn from our mistakes or misjudgments and at the very least we can say, at this point , is that Flores has a million times the character of that a-hole. That is obvious.

QB whisperer my arse. He certainly didn't take Tanne to any special heights. He helped him into a back up role in Tennesee. Dudes, I can go on and on. This year, if nothing else, this team shows strong signs of building and doing things the right way and if we just beat the NJ Jerkoffs twice, I will be happy. I couldn't stand losing to that bug eyed little douche. F him. Good riddance.

Peyton did vouch for him and absolutely loved him. Got to give the fans a break on that one.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Peyton did vouch for him and absolutely loved him. Got to give the fans a break on that one.

and he has done the same for the Jet fans..

He was sold to us a strategic genius.

He built an offense built around creating a pattern, and then breaking that pattern. Yay! We lead the league in 50+ yard TDS! Awesome, chunk plays are what win you games! Unfortunately the base offense was so stale and ineffective that all those long TDS didn’t matter.

He built the defense around creating pressure and take-Aways. We were among the league leaders in takeaways! Awesome winning the turnover battle wins you games! Unfortunately the base defense allowed the opponents to have long drives and found it difficult to stop the opponent or force three and outs.

For his type of offense to work you need a defense that creates three and outs and gives you lots of opportunities for your big strike plays to happen. He paired it with a defense that was almost guaranteed to let the opponent hold onto the ball for a long time. This was the worst possible strategic match.

He created a defense that created turnovers, but allowed the opponent to advance the ball. The offense you need to match this defense is a ball control offense that marches downfield and creates at least a FG opportunity on every possession. You need the opposing offense to feel pressure to score on every possessions or this defense to work best. Again he made the worst possible strategic match.

The guy may be a genius at drawing up plays, but getting those plays to come together in a coherent plan was not one of his skills.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Peyton did vouch for him and absolutely loved him. Got to give the fans a break on that one.

That doesn't mean much at all, DD. Peyton is a high character guy. He's going to say those kind of things. He will probably say that about most of his coaches.

"Sceeto wrote:

That doesn't mean much at all, DD. Peyton is a high character guy. He's going to say those kind of things. He will probably say that about most of his coaches.

I do not agree with that. Peyton is a selfish dick

"Sceeto wrote:

That doesn't mean much at all, DD. Peyton is a high character guy. He's going to say those kind of things. He will probably say that about most of his coaches.

Coaches coach, players play, GMs evaluate...stay in your lane.

"djphinfan wrote:

you cant take two players and their skillsets that demonstrate what a scam this dude was..

Tannehill and Gesicki were horribly hooribly missused skillsets..don't get me wrong, I dontlike either player but their skillsets were not used correctly.

Funny, I didn't mention Gesicki because I didn't want to derail the thread, but he was certainly one I was referring to with my comment. I know you don't like him ,but you remember what I was saying after we drafted him about how he should be used.
I also hated the way he used Drake. I wanted to see him use Drake on more deeper routes in the passing game, similar to the way NE used White. He tried it once and it was worked great and was probably Drake's longest TD reception, but the douche never went back to it again.

There are many different types of leaders in the NFL and it's very easy to judge a coach after he's gone. That doesn't change the facts though that he was 5-1 against the Jets and split with NE and Buffalo with a 2nd string QB for most of those games. Now I'm supposed to care that Gase wasn't on the field for the first 30 minutes of mini-camp each day because some idiot said so? I mean, I don't see my pilot whenever I'm flying in a plane...does that mean he's not doing his job either?

I get that Miami wanted to go a different route with the youth movement and I hope that it works out. Gase got a bad shake in Miami though and that will become clear over the next few seasons.

Gase's time with the Jets will help to show who/what he is.

I know he will be 4-0 against his former team the next two seasons.

Gase makes beating the Jets meaningful again.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

I know he will be 4-0 against his former team the next two seasons.

Eh, maybe you forgot we won 3 more games than them last year. Signing an RB and a solid LB to massive contracts are going to change that? They may win 7 games next year. We win 5 and split with them.

"djphinfan wrote:

Coaches coach, players play, GMs evaluate...stay in your lane.

Ignorance abounds. Very fucking foolish statement. Coaches evaluate their players and others all the time. Maybe not all, but many many do. DJ over here acting like he's some sort of scouting warg.

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Ignorance abounds. Very ****ing foolish statement. Coaches evaluate their players and others all the time. Maybe not all, but many many do. DJ over here acting like he's some sort of scouting warg.

Why are you so insecure?

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Eh, maybe you forgot we won 3 more games than them last year. Signing an RB and a solid LB to massive contracts are going to change that? They may win 7 games next year. We win 5 and split with them.

I think you just made my point. The Jets made themselves a much better team this off-season while the Dolphins went backwards. And, I think Gase might have a little extra on the line for those four games. I can just see the Gatorade baths now.

Gase had some extra on the lines at the end of last year when we were still in the playoff hunt....is he all the sudden going to be able to call an offense?

The Jets made themselves better. But that wasnt hard. Again, they won 4 games last year. Signing highest price FAs doesnt guarantee you a bunch of success. Miami did it every year after they won 7 or 8 games. They still won 7 or 8 games. The jets were awful. As bad as Miami was last year, the Jets were much worse. Saying they are going 4-0 against us is just laughable. NE hasnt went 4-0 against us, even the year we went 4-12.

"KeyFin wrote:

There are many different types of leaders in the NFL and it's very easy to judge a coach after he's gone. That doesn't change the facts though that he was 5-1 against the Jets and split with NE and Buffalo with a 2nd string QB for most of those games. Now I'm supposed to care that Gase wasn't on the field for the first 30 minutes of mini-camp each day because some idiot said so? I mean, I don't see my pilot whenever I'm flying in a plane...does that mean he's not doing his job either?

I get that Miami wanted to go a different route with the youth movement and I hope that it works out. Gase got a bad shake in Miami though and that will become clear over the next few seasons.

First 30 mins?, that’s not what I said, I said it took me the first 30 mins to locate him.. he is not an on the field type coach, he’s off on the sideline having conversations with various people while the practice is going on, his assistants run the practice..