iOS 7 announced

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  1. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Fixed that for you.
     
  2. MikeHoncho

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    Fixed that for you.


    Note: I'm just being contrarian. The iOS7 is pretty intuitive.
     
  3. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Its funny because Android is better.
     
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  4. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Whatever makes you sleep better at night. :lol:
     
  5. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Enjoy your overpriced, overrated, glass piece of garbage.
     
  6. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Wow. Anger issues.
     
  7. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I aint even mad.
     
  8. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You know what you're talking about, Des. The battery reset worked. Today I only used 25% of the battery all day. I will now start turning stuff back on. Thanks!
     
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  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    How about for the phone itself I am having the same problem? My battery drains crazy after I updated....I watched it going from 67% then the next time I used it to 42%!!!! like crazy jumps in the numbers negative wise....

    I have the 5...
     
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Follow the steps and calibrate the battery.

    You guys should be doing this once a month, BTW.
     
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  11. Boik14

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    Would it be the same for a macbook pro?
     
  12. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Any device using a lithium ion battery. MacBook Pro included.
     
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  13. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ok thanks Des, just checking the same was done to the phone as to the pad.....
     
  14. DolPhinPhan7

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  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    If you really want to go down the "stolen" path, then go all the way. Android itself is a stolen version of iOS running on a stolen Java VM that was originally intended to be a stolen Blackberry. The Blackberry thing was changed after some presentation or other by some now dead guy in January 2007.
     
  16. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    And Apple stole from Xerox.
    http://www.mac-history.net/computer-history/2012-03-22/apple-and-xerox-parc

    I'll concede Apple became the first to mass-market touch-screen slab smartphones with a grid-arrange app layout. But I'd argue Android has sort of perfected it.

    Doesn't mean suing Samsung isn't ridiculously litigious.
     
  17. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Apple did not steal from Xerox. They paid Xerox to allow Apple to visit the Xerox labs and use whatever they wanted. Xerox took the cash because they weren't interested in what they had under their noses. You've fallen for one of the biggest tech myths on the Internet.

    By the way, what does this have to do with Android? Nothing. But nice attempt at a useless topic change.

    Android offers no OS upgrade path besides buying a new phone on a new 2 year deal, is a factor only in the free/cheap segment of the phone market, and is not used by people who buy them.

    The fact that Apple didn't do it sooner shows remarkable restraint. Samsung might be the biggest international thief in world history. (Google is merely one of the largest in the US.)

    Also, repeated since it applies here: What does this have to do with Android? Nothing. But nice attempt at a useless topic change.

    Lastly: it's striking that your original assertion is that Android is not only better, but has perfected an entire product category, yet your supporting details are... attacks against Apple, not reasons why a certain Android product is actually better.
     
  18. DolPhinPhan7

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    Most of the changes in IOS7 are things Android has been using for awhile: Settings Toggle, Recent App Menu/Multi-Tasking, Automatic Updates.

    I don't mind or anything. But the theft of ideas goes both ways.

    I don't understand why Apple people fixate on Fragmentation. It's not that big a deal. Once you've had your phone for awhile it's pointless to upgrade to OS's designed for much faster phones. The leaps from, say the Galaxy S2 to the S4 are huge.*
    You wouldn't expect them both to be able to run on the same OS. So it's not shocking that Kitkat won't be offered for older phones. You can still download almost, if not all, Google created Apps. I did however get updates from GB to ICS then to Jellybean 4.1.2.*

    When you have an open-source OS, that'll be the reality. Google can make an update but it's the Hardware developer and the Mobile carrier that actually have to do the leg work to get it to the consumer.*

    There are few things an iPhone can do that State-of-the-Art Android phones can't. I guess a nifty finger-print scanner no one will use is one thing.

    But there are plenty of things you can do on an Android phone that Apple won't allow. Wireless Syncing, Expandable HD space, Widgets, Removable Battery, Third-party keyboards, ability to download music from torrents, customizable launchers, Did I mention Widgets?
     
  19. Desides

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    OK, so you don't actually know what's new in iOS 7. Carry on.

    It's a huge deal. It means your phone doesn't receive security updates, and it means developers cannot count on certain OS features being available on a given phone. Meanwhile, iOS 7 has already passed the 50% adoption mark. By this time next month, most devices that are capable of running iOS 7 will be. That's a huge deal. I'm sorry that you don't understand that.

    The fact that it's open source means the exact opposite of what you assert.

    Wireless syncing: iCloud, iTunes over wifi. Been around for three years.
    Expandable space: completely irrelevant feature that exists only to fill out a bullet point on a marketing intern's spreadsheet. Content is now streaming.
    Widgets: Wow, OK. Um, you're the first person I've ever seen who attempts to use widgets as a positive.
    Removable battery: see expandable space.
    Third party keyboards: see expandable space.
    Download music from torrents: Apple should build in the ability to let you pirate content. OK, sure, they'll get right on that.
    Launchers: what does this even mean? A replacement app launcher? The home screen is an app launcher already.

    By the way, I'm going to stop replying to you; this is turning into an OS war. Troll elsewhere.
     
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  20. DolPhinPhan7

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    Widgets are extremely positive. But it's amusing how you dismiss things that plenty of Android users love. You can downplay cool things you can do on an Android phone all you want, but I'd argue they make the experience better.

    You can download launchers to make your phone appear how you'd like. You can make it look like an iPhone if you want. Wouldn't have the problem of people getting sick from the appearance of iOS7.

    I would ask you to let me know important things the iPhone can do that Android phones cant. But if you're not going to respond, oh well.

    Here's an article on Android Fragmentation and why it's not that big a deal.*

    http://i7nw.com/byod-security-android-fragmentation/

    "Is android fragmentation (AF) a big deal? Not for the consumers. The fact of the matter is that you can still make calls, send texts and run the same apps. In this case why do you care? Of course there are few apps you can’t run on older versions or some content (video) can’t be run but that is a small percentage. Every single app in the Google Play store will work on at least 90% of the Android devices still being used today. So probably Google wont care much either. IN reality the average consumer (of android) has no idea what fragmentation even is."
     
  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Des,

    since the ios7 update my iMessage has not been working on my iPhone - all messages go in and out as text messages instead. I have an iPad that also got the ios7 update and messages are now also being sent to both iPhone and iPad and the iPhone no longer receives blue iMessages - everything is a green text message. I have switched on both devices to send and receive iMessages at just my phone number for both devices. Still no dice.
     
  22. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Known issue. An update to fix it is incoming.
     
  23. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    So I did a hard reset of the settings. Switched the preference of getting iMessages from my phone and pad to just my phone, and it worked. I have iMessage back.

    I found that on google and yeah they said an update is coming. Also somebody was saying that it is better to do updates from iTunes and not over the phone because you just get a patch over woof as opposed to getting the full update connected to iTunes. I thought that to be odd, have you ran into this at all?
     
  24. Desides

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    Whoever wrote this is an idiot and does not understand the concept of bandwidth or code updating.

    When you update over the air, you download what's called a delta update. This means that you are only downloading the files that have changed, not the entire operating system. This is a good thing. It means you aren't spending hours over LTE or WiFi downloading a 1.5 GB file that somehow needs to be stored on the very limited space on your phone, unpacked, and executed. It's a complete waste of time to force a huge file over your limited cell connection, not to mention that update will chew through your data cap very quickly.

    Where your source material goes completely off the rails is the insinuation that a delta update is somehow inferior to a full update. The opposite is true; a delta update is better. It's smaller, it's faster, you update quicker, and there is absolutely no difference in the end result between a delta update and a full update. None. You achieve the same end result. One is quicker, one is slower.

    This is almost as dumb as guides that tell you to save battery by closing background applications. Never visit the site where you read this again. If a friend told it to you, shun him from your life; he is probably buying a bridge in Brooklyn as we speak.
     

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