Interesting about Cowher and Miami

That also tells me they like the job Jeff Ireland is doing.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

That also tells me they like the job Jeff Ireland is doing.

Also says the structure is in place to Ross's satisfaction, he was not thrilled with the job Tony S did in Ross's mind.

Well it looks like sparano is staying. We need to find ourselves one heck of an OC.

"FinsAreLife wrote:

Well it looks like sparano is staying. We need to find ourselves one heck of an OC.

lol where have you been to think thats in stone?!

That's the problem with giving a guy - no matter who they are - full control. Cowher would likely get rid of Nolan just because he want's it HIS way. However, you have to believe that Cowher could do as well a job as Nolan with the pieces we have in place on defense. I still think Ross will reconsider if Harbaugh falls through. It's clear he was just gauging interest.

It's clear to me now we need a new owner.

"padre31 wrote:

Also says the structure is in place to Ross's satisfaction, he was not thrilled with the job Tony S did in Ross's mind.

The question is, how much does Ross really know about football and what so and so does and all that.

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

That's the problem with giving a guy - no matter who they are - full control. Cowher would likely get rid of Nolan just because he want's it HIS way. However, you have to believe that Cowher could do as well a job as Nolan with the pieces we have in place on defense. I still think Ross will reconsider if Harbaugh falls through. It's clear he was just gauging interest.

I think if Cowher walked into Ross' office and said, I will become Miami Dolphins head coach, you can keep Ireland as GM, but I need my own staff...Cowher would be the coach by tomorrow.

It has more to do with giving a coach full control over personnel decisions IMO.

If you are hiring someone as a head coach, let them be a head coach. They should hire whom ever they want for the cordinators, and run what ever system they want. You want the O and the D working together. If you don't like what the Coach wants to do then don't hire them.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

That also tells me they like the job Jeff Ireland is doing.

I think overall, Jeff has done a solid job. Short of the Dez' mother thing, he's hit on more than he's missed, and he's young too. Off the top of my head:

Hits
Jake Long
Davone Bess
Chad Pennington (for '08)
Vontae Davis
Sean Smith
Brandon Marshall
Karlos Dansby
Brian Hartline
Koa Misi
Jarrod Odrick (Yes, TBD, but he looked very good in limited action - excited to see him next year)

Misses
Pat White
Pat Turner
Jake Grove (for injuries)
Chad Henne (still TBD for final verdit, but not looking good)

Questionable cuts/trades
Samson Satale
Matt Roth
Ted Ginn, Jr. & family (could've used his speed this year)

Not all of these hits/misses were all on Jeff, as he was but one part of the Trifecta/Bifecta .... but he did have input! Keep 'em coming Jeff!

And think of the hits - outside of Penny, all of them could be around for a long time!!

"Nappy Roots wrote:

I think if Cowher walked into Ross' office and said, I will become Miami Dolphins head coach, you can keep Ireland as GM, but I need my own staff...Cowher would be the coach by tomorrow.

It has more to do with giving a coach full control over personnel decisions IMO.

Oh, I'm sure that's definitely a big part of it. Cowher forced out Tom Donahoe in Pittsburgh after the '99 season because of the power struggle over personnel. I think Cowher and Ireland could co-exist, there's just have to be some serious concessions on Jeff's part.

It's a tough situation though.

"padre31 wrote:

Also says the structure is in place to Ross's satisfaction, he was not thrilled with the job Tony S did in Ross's mind.

It also points to the possible "throwing under the bus" by Ireland for Sparano. Ross & Ireland had more face time and Ireland, in trying to save himself, planted seeds with Ross that this season was more Sparano's fault than his.

"DolfanJake wrote:

It also points to the possible "throwing under the bus" by Ireland for Sparano. Ross & Ireland had more face time and Ireland, in trying to save himself, planted seeds with Ross that this season was more Sparano's fault than his.

This could very well be true. He's a young guy w/ aspirations. You would hope not, but it could be.

"DolfanTom wrote:

I think overall, Jeff has done a solid job. Short of the Dez' mother thing, he's hit on more than he's missed, and he's young too. Off the top of my head:

Hits
Jake Long
Davone Bess
Chad Pennington (for '08)
Vontae Davis
Sean Smith
Brandon Marshall
Karlos Dansby
Brian Hartline
Koa Misi
Jarrod Odrick (Yes, TBD, but he looked very good in limited action - excited to see him next year)

Misses
Pat White
Pat Turner
Jake Grove (for injuries)
Chad Henne (still TBD for final verdit, but not looking good)

Questionable cuts/trades
Samson Satale
Matt Roth
Ted Ginn, Jr. & family (could've used his speed this year)

Not all of these hits/misses were all on Jeff, as he was but one part of the Trifecta/Bifecta .... but he did have input! Keep 'em coming Jeff!

And think of the hits - outside of Penny, all of them could be around for a long time!!

Add to the misses - Philip Merling, Donald Thomas, John Nalbone, Justin Smiley, Shawn Murphy, please, he has been mediocre at best. Just as many misses as hits.

You'd like to think that cowher, if we're going to potentially pay him $8 mill per year, could at least meet with Ireland and see if they can get along. We could always get rid of Ireland later if things really aren't working out.

"DolfanJake wrote:

Add to the misses - Philip Merling, Donald Thomas, John Nalbone, Justin Smiley, Shawn Murphy, please, he has been mediocre at best. Just as many misses as hits.

Having just as many misses as hits makes you a pretty solid GM in the NFL.

"DolfanJake wrote:

Add to the misses - Philip Merling, Donald Thomas, John Nalbone, Shawn Murphy, please, he has been mediocre at best. Just as many misses as hits.

I like Merling! Well, on the football field anyway. I think he'd be better in a "TBD" category.

Yes, Thomas, Nalbone and Murphy too, but even great GMs don't hit. Even the genius up in Foxboro has drafted some flops at WR (Jackson) and Merriweather at S. There are more too. Nobody is perfect.

I think Jeff has done more good than bad, and figures to get better as he goes through more drafts.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

That also tells me they like the job Jeff Ireland is doing.

Nolan I believe would be a dealbreaker; but they'd give up Ireland like a fat girl gives up new year's resolutions if Cowher said yes.

"schmolioot wrote:

You'd like to think that cowher, if we're going to potentially pay him $8 mill per year, could at least meet with Ireland and see if they can get along. We could always get rid of Ireland later if things really aren't working out.

Its an ego Alpha Male thing. He wants complete control from the beginning. I can kinda understand it. I think I would like that too. That way, Ross has to fire Ireland, and Cowher doesn't have to go through all that unpleasantness and can concentrate 100% on winning.

"DolfanJake wrote:

Add to the misses - Philip Merling, Donald Thomas, John Nalbone, Justin Smiley, Shawn Murphy, please, he has been mediocre at best. Just as many misses as hits.

With Murphy you have a point, Thomas, Nalbone, were late rd picks, Merling has been an okay player I'd call him more of a disappointment than a miss.

"FinsAreLife wrote:

Well it looks like sparano is staying. We need to find ourselves one heck of an OC.

Jim Harbaugh would be a PERFECT fit. I think if he wants the job it is his for the taking. So long Sparano and so long Henning...nah, nah, nah, nah...nah, nah, nah, nah...hey, hey, hey...GOOD-BYE!

Who knows how long Nolan would be around anyway.
If he is the only reason we didn't hire Bill Cowher they made a huge mistake.
Hire Cowher and let him work his magic. Screw this we'll keep Sparano in the wings till we find someone better. You have someone better right there.
To hell with the risk of losing Nolan or Ireland.

"DolfanJake wrote:

Its an ego Alpha Male thing. He wants complete control from the beginning. I can kinda understand it. I think I would like that too. That way, Ross has to fire Ireland, and Cowher doesn't have to go through all that unpleasantness and can concentrate 100% on winning.

Also have had several football "czars" and they have not worked.

"DolfanTom wrote:

I think overall, Jeff has done a solid job. Short of the Dez' mother thing, he's hit on more than he's missed, and he's young too. Off the top of my head:

Hits
Jake Long
Davone Bess
Chad Pennington (for '08)
Vontae Davis
Sean Smith
Brandon Marshall
Karlos Dansby
Brian Hartline
Koa Misi
Jarrod Odrick (Yes, TBD, but he looked very good in limited action - excited to see him next year)

Misses
Pat White
Pat Turner
Jake Grove (for injuries)
Chad Henne (still TBD for final verdit, but not looking good)

Questionable cuts/trades
Samson Satale
Matt Roth
Ted Ginn, Jr. & family (could've used his speed this year)

Not all of these hits/misses were all on Jeff, as he was but one part of the Trifecta/Bifecta .... but he did have input! Keep 'em coming Jeff!

And think of the hits - outside of Penny, all of them could be around for a long time!!

Add John Jerry to the misses.