I'm no hunter, but

"schmolioot wrote:

Come on CK. Her ability to kill a moose is one of her chief qualifications for VP.

So is her ability to irresponsibly decide to get pregnant at 44 years of age.

"ckparrothead wrote:

So is her ability to irresponsibly decide to get pregnant at 44 years of age.

:lol:

You're getting filleted for that one my friend.

"ckparrothead wrote:

So is her ability to irresponsibly decide to get pregnant at 44 years of age.

Good Lord. :no:
Sad and pathetic.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Good Lord. :no:
Sad and pathetic.

If you say so. Not much different from getting pregnant at 24 and deciding you're damn well within your rights to swig back a bunch of whiskey whenever you feel up to it.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

The problem is, man has already changed the equation. When nature "culls the herd," it frequently leads to entire populations disappearing. We don't want the entire populations to disappear since there aren't enough numbers elsewhere to replace them, so we have to cull them this way.

You couldn't be more wrong.

When you hunt, you don't take the weakest specimen, which is nature's way. You take the strongest most impressive specimen. These specimens are generally the leader of their group or herd. These leaders control the population by selective breeding. The control other males from breeding in their herd. When that leader is gone, especially without a challenge, each herd goes through a period where it is group of males doing indiscriminate breeding. Hence the population goes up. Especially when you factor in the removal of predators. Yellowstone is a perfect example of this.

The point is nature has this down, leave it alone. People's desire to kill, shouldn't supersede nature's ability for life.

"Finascious D wrote:

You couldn't be more wrong.

When you hunt, you don't take the weakest specimen, which is nature's way.

Once more, we aren't TALKING about sport hunting, we're speaking of wolf culls ordered by the government.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Once more, we aren't TALKING about sport hunting, we're speaking of wolf culls ordered by the government.

You're right, the population boom in Alaska must be why there's so many wolves. :pity:

"Finascious D wrote:

You're right, the population boom in Alaska must be why there's so many wolves. :pity:

I have no idea what you're trying to say and I am 100% sure it has nothing to do with anything I said.
BTW, you do know that the wolf population in Alaska is somewhere around 11.000 right?

"ckparrothead wrote:

So is her ability to irresponsibly decide to get pregnant at 44 years of age.

You've got to be kidding me. I know plenty of women who have had kids in their 40's and they were just fine. I also know plenty of women who had kids in their 20's, and they were born with mental deficiencies, and other sorts of problems.

Just disgusting how low libs will stoop.

"resnor wrote:

You've got to be kidding me. I know plenty of women who have had kids in their 40's and they were just fine. I also know plenty of women who had kids in their 20's, and they were born with mental deficiencies, and other sorts of problems.

Just disgusting how low libs will stoop.

Well considering Obama's been called a terrorist and now a pervert, I would say it cuts both ways.

"resnor wrote:

You've got to be kidding me. I know plenty of women who have had kids in their 40's and they were just fine. I also know plenty of women who had kids in their 20's, and they were born with mental deficiencies, and other sorts of problems.

Just disgusting how low libs will stoop.

The question is really what WON'T libs stoop to.

This thread is really off the rails now.

"Darkoak wrote:

This thread is really off the rails now.

Yeah, amazing how a bunch of libs trying to out-smear each other can throw a thread off the rails, huh?

"Rick 1966 wrote:

I have no idea what you're trying to say and I am 100% sure it has nothing to do with anything I said.
BTW, you do know that the wolf population in Alaska is somewhere around 11.000 right?

First of all, do you know if 11,000 is too much for the area? Is it too little? Are 11,000 wolves hurting the environment there? Numbers are great, but pointless without anything behind them. For all you know, that environment needs 20,000 wolves to control the herd populations.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Yeah, amazing how a bunch of libs trying to out-smear each other can throw a thread off the rails, huh?

Rick that wasn't directed at you, dude chill out.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Except that it doesn't. No one here called YOU a pervert or a terrorist. But someone here just called my late mother irresponsible. :no:

I'm not defending that. And I believe the comment I responded to had to do with what was being said about Palin.

"resnor wrote:

You've got to be kidding me. I know plenty of women who have had kids in their 40's and they were just fine. I also know plenty of women who had kids in their 20's, and they were born with mental deficiencies, and other sorts of problems.

Just disgusting how low libs will stoop.

This isn't a liberal or a conservative issue. This is a responsibility issue. I'd be saying the same thing about a liberal 45 year old trying to get pregnant. FACTS are FACTS and when you're 45 years old, the chances of having a down syndrome baby are 80 times greater than having one at 24 years old.

So, I don't really give a rats arse what you think is disgusting or not. I think it's a bit disgusting to make a commitment to having a baby through to full term at 45 years old knowing full well that the baby has better than a 1 in 20 chance of having down syndrome.

"Finascious D wrote:

First of all, do you know if 11,000 is too much for the area? Is it too little? Are 11,000 wolves hurting the environment there? Numbers are great, but pointless without anything behind them. For all you know, that environment needs 20,000 wolves to control the herd populations.

Well, it's hard to say for sure, but in Denali National Park, where there is no hunting, they've had some problems with wolf predation reducing the caribou herds.

"Darkoak wrote:

Rick that wasn't directed at you, dude chill out.

I am chilled. Perhaps you should tell your like-minded buddy to chill out. But I guess everything he says is okay with you because he shares your ideology. It certainly seems to be okay with Finacious D, since he took the time to thank him for his slam on my mother.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

I am chilled. Perhaps you should tell your like-minded buddy to chill out. But I guess everything he says is okay with you because he shares your ideology.

What? I haven't even said anything about what's pissing you off here. I'm not even taking a side, I said the thread is going off the rails because it is. Now can we get back on topic please.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Well, it's hard to say for sure, but in Denali National Park, where there is no hunting, they've had some problems with wolf predation reducing the caribou herds.

They could eat one and reduce the herds. Again, what do your numbers mean? Are there too many caribou? That's generally a hunter's stance, there's too many deer, moose, caribou, etc. for the area to sustain them, so when we hunt we're helping out. This just one giant circular justification for blood-lust.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Cry me a river. People make generalized statements all the time, yourself included, about "liberals do this" or "liberals think that", denigrating people who think a certain way. My dead grandfather was a liberal. Damn, I guess you're insulting my dead grandfather. You bastard.

I think we should quit bringing people's families into this, even unintentioanlly, but that last line is kind of funny. I can't help it.

"Finascious D wrote:

They could eat one and reduce the herds. Again, what do your numbers mean? Are there too many caribou? That's generally a hunter's stance, there's too many deer, moose, caribou, etc. for the area to sustain them, so when we hunt we're helping out. This just one giant circular justification for blood-lust.

I thought we were supposed to be fostering a culture of life? Damn, must've missed the fine print in that memo...

"ckparrothead wrote:

I thought we were supposed to be fostering a culture of life? Damn, must've missed the fine print in that memo...

Dammit CK our species can't live, unless we hunt moose.:lol:

"Finascious D wrote:

Dammit CK our species can't live, unless we hunt moose.:lol:

And we need a leader who can field strip one! (that is the term, right?)