If not Harbaugh, then who?

Well, picking the right upper management is pretty much the most important responsibility an NFL owner has. If he can't do that right after 17 years he is a massive failure as an owner. He also signed off and supported things like tanking for Tua, bringing in Flores and asking him to tank, then firing Flores when he disagreed with the Tua pick and tanking. Ross also personally cost us a 1st round pick because of tampering and not being aware of league rules. It has been one big **** show after another over the last 17 years with Ross as owner.

Investing in nice practice facilities and renovating the stadium does not make up for failing at everything else.

 

So many wealthy people saw Mark Cuban's story and tried to replicate it. Mark sold a company for hundreds of millions, bought the Mavs outright (for around $350M?), then worked day to day inside the office with the sales team to build the organization. He hand-picked his coaches, his executives, and then he worked alongside them daily. And when he felt like he didn't want to do that anymore, he sold his majority share for over a billion dollar profit.

That's the right way to run a franchise. It's the same thing Robie did.

Then a new generation came along for one reason- a sports team appreciates in value more than a car, the stock market, or other assets. They loved Cuban's story of becoming a household name, so they tried to do what he did...yet they had no interest in actually working there. And that's fine if you want to be hands-off, but you'd better hire the best of the best.

The problem with Ross (in my opinion) is that he doesn't trust his own front office. Every time we make a major hire, we bring in outside consultants that consult. That sounds great and all, but they get paid for a month's work and then they walk away. Why Aikman? He's not a GM and he's not a head coach. Why not Marino instead? There's no sound method involved here because we don't have people in the front office that Ross respects.

From those in the know, I've heard Ross asks absolutely everyone he knows in the league- what do you think I should do? And the problem is that he gets 50 opinions from 50 people, all looking at one cog in the wheel instead of the complete wheel and tire. Was Flores a good coach? Absolutely...but he couldn't get along with the GM and he hated the organization's plans for QB.

That's what you get when you seek outside opinions inside a vacuum, they don't necessarily fit your entire organization. And that's what we've done 5 or 6 times now with little success. We never, ever, ever should have hired Flores under those specific circumstances. And when many saw Tua as a huge question mark, we shouldn't have hired Grier either.

Hire a GM, or a president of football operations, and let them build a complete team. Will they be biased? Heck yes! They'll also get guys that they already know work well together. You can't have that though when you have an absent owner and no trust within the front office. Ross has to do one or the other- work himself or get the right guy at the very top that will work like a Mark Cuban.

Not that the Mavs were anything special, mind you (2x champs), but that's the blueprint all these new billionaires are trying to copy but they're missing the most important part- Cuban personally sold season tickets, he personally worked out with the players, he personally studied the drafts and worked with his executives, etc.

 

Ross is terrible but are really supposed to pretend Flores was a victim? Or pretend he was fired for any of the things he ratted on them for?

 

In my book Flores was proven right in most if not all of his grievances. If Ross had sided with Flores instead of Grier we probably would be in a lot better position right now and contending for a championship.

Ross's lack of judgment and football knowledge is the root of all our problems.

 

I agree about Ross but that doesn't mean ignoring the red flags of Flores. Just look at what Fitzmagic recently had to say.

Flores ran himself out of the building. Mistake Ross made was not sending Grier packing too.

I am sure we would be winning titles if Ross fired Grier and kept Flores when the QB would have been Deshaun Watson. Although I will admit it we wouldn't be any worse off.

 

Na, we would have definitely been worst off with Deshaun Watson.. look at the draft capital and salary the browns gave up, fully guaranteed.

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that decision has set the browns so far back, they cant even cut him this year (his final year of 5 years 230 million full guaranteeds) because he holds a 133 million dead cap number if they release him.. hes going to be there in training camp along with sanders and gabriel…..


I dont even know how browns fans stay loyal to that team..