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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Nappy Roots, Nov 10, 2013.
Incognito should go away based on the fact that he's an embarrassment to the franchise and is a mediocre guard/football player anyways. Jonathan based on he's not fit for the NFL mentally and he too also sucks at football
They'd have to go to the NSA to get the text.
That couldn't have been the whole interview because they never talked about the text of what Martin texted to cogs about killing his family.
I bet he made the Hector Salamanca face as he said it.
Damn and I thought I was pissed off lol
That's kind of where my gut instinct on this is as well. Martin is the type that just went along with what Incognito was doing and now he's just going along with what his parents telling him to do/say. It wasn't bullying, it was just friends being crude/rude. Then Martin freaks out due to his general emotional issues and lack of personal success. That's followed by his parents and lawyers getting involved and creating this whole bullying angle.
In the interview when cogs reached out to Martin after he left via texts he asked Martin what's going on with all this? Martin said "its not coming from me" I believe that is 100% true but I am still pissed at him for sharing text messages with his parents. That's why we are hearing this s*** storm. Can there be a case if Martin wants it to stop but his parents want to pursue legal action?
I believe Glazer said he has all 1,100 texts.?.
I think if cogs didn't use the n word this wouldnt be as big a deal as it is.. But that word can be hurtful and it can get ppl in lots of trouble.. Martins camp saw it and are now using it.. Nothing good comes from using that word... Unfortunately cogs will be the sacrificial lamb here so the dolphins can distance themselves from any racism regardless if cogs gets cleared of bulling or not...
I forget what exactly Cogs text to Martin but I think texting you're going to kill someone's whole family is worse than what Cogs text.
I still maintain that alot of Richie's issues stem from when he is intoxicated. That voicemail probably never happens, if he wasnt drunk. I think the sober Richie Ingognito is a well spoken, intelligent person with an inner meathead. Alcohol brings out the meathead. Its clear he cant control himself not to get to that point, so I wish he would stop drinking. I think Richie has issues controling impulsive behavior, but on the whole, I think hes a pretty good guy. You dont get that kind of support in his locker room, is he isnt.
Whether he comes back to the team or not, I hope he decides the drink isnt worth it.
I think Jonathan Martin got himself into a problem, where others took control. Namely his mother. I think Martin is a good person, a good man. I dont think he intended for it to go this far.
I think alot of healing could take place....and really bring this team together, if Richie and Jonathan sat down with the team, and got all of this out. Together as men, they can decide to do this. To hell with the lawyers....to hell with agents.
They need to all get together as men, as teammates, and settle this all. I think youd see an amazingly strong locker room after something like that.
I think the Dolphins can all accept blame in this. The coaches should have been more aware of who Jonathan Martin was. Ireland did all of the leg work in getting to know him before the draft. As GM, he should have known he had a player who might not react well to the typical locker room behavior. For this, and his past job performance I believe he should be fired. I think the Dolphins should re instate Richie Incognito, with the caveot that he see counseling about drinking. I think they should place Jonathan Martin on IR, and pay him the rest of the season.
After all of this...there is positive that can come out of everything. The Phins can be an example for the rest of the league to look to.
It'd be a lot more helpful if someone would report the post that has a personal attack than quote it.
As much coverage as this has gotten, this isn't too much to ask.
Your right...my bad.
Iirc Cogs said the same thing back almost verbatim. That implies to me that they really did communicate that way and that there's no way that Martin would have ever thought that Cogs was threatening him in that VM.
one of the guys on the show , I think Jimmy said it why did the dolphins ignore the signs that Martin had isssues when other teams backed off of him. in other words it looks like we have another draft bust on our hands.
A assistant coach was on the radio out west here that he though our oline is of bad character . now I don't know about that .
all know is I miss Richmond Webb , Keith Sims , James Brown Kevin Donnelly , and yes I would take Tim Ruddy as well plus Mark Dixon and John Bock were not bad character guys . ths may be why our oline is bad. or just a part of why it is bad.
You have a very vivid imagination.
This is Incognito's fault because he wasn't psychic enough to know that Martin was only pretending to do that to fit in.
Turning from nasty to saddening.... The whole problem has little to do with Ritchie, he's just taking the fall. This is about martins issues, even more saddening....and his biased lawyer parents causing a **** storm to get him some money, because that's what lawyers do regardless of what's right or wrong.
I think its also about a GM who was completely not in touch with his football team.
Martin is getting bullied by his parents.
I'll take a bite out of that scenario...also your chocolate nipples.
Let me ask you this VT, should the patriots have been more intuitive to the type of oerson Arron Hernandez is, they still drafted him, they still resigned him?
Yup, that's it, Jon Martin knows damn fu&$ing well that Richie was not serious, however that punk allowed the message of maliciousness to become the narrative...( sorry bigbry that's the last time)
Son of a
I knew this Offensive line sucked bad and even predicted preseason the Dolphins would lead the league in sacks allowed. Who knew this was a favorable assessment of what we had.
And for all you rude Jonathan Martin is a quality LT blah blah blah supporters - Nice call.
Martin is a hypocrite. I'm pretty fed up of hearing how he had to join in because he was weak. Weak to me is not going through protocol using the system that was in place to stop and avoid this mess.
What about the texts the both of them sent Lauren Tannehill "We're gonna get your husband murdered"
Exactly. That sums up the entire thing in a nutshell.
And its not hard to figure out his story is probably 95% BS but the media don't give a **** because it messes with their agenda. Its maddening to the core.
is this really what was sent?
Sounds like Incognito was in a hostile work environment. He might have a case against the team.
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Spill it man, what you got?
Which worries me a bit of his agency in this whole thing going forward. What he just wants to end this whole thing? Will mommy let him?
yep...this was the text martin sent to richie. martins lawyer tweeted this pic
Wow, I've seen scarier stuff at Disney world
So context counts when Martin says something, but not when Incognito says something? LOL. Is it Monday night yet?
IMO...I see them a completely different DJ. I dont think there is any way within reason, you could have seen that Aaron Hernanzez would commit first degree murder. Teams know they are drafting players with some degree of questions. But knowing you had a cold blooded killer on your team? I dont see that.
This whole thing is a joke. Martin should be ashamed for making a big deal out of all of this.
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