I hate to say it, but Belichick showed us what a great coach is capable of

Amen. You'll never see Belichick caught off guard with the Wildcat or inverted Veer, or any of that silly stuff.

It wasnt Belichick who was blocking giving Brady 6.5 seconds to complete a pass. It wasnt Belichick throwing some of those throws, or reading our defense, or making perfect reads and progressions. Belichick, is one of the best coaches EVER. But to say he is the main reason the Patriots won the game Monday imo is wrong. Isnt he supposedly a defensive genius? Henne was picking them apart. Brady showed us what a hall of fame quarterback is capable of.

Sadly, like coaches, thats not an easy thing to find.

Thankfully there's only one Belichick.

Now I'm still confused on the way Reggie Bush is being used but I'm willing to let this play out. Let's see what happens if and when Daniel Thomas gets healthy.

So if Sparano gets the ax who do you want to replace him?

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Amen. You'll never see Belichick caught off guard with the Wildcat or inverted Veer, or any of that silly stuff.

Once. A long long time ago, and he made adjustments. The guy has perfected the profession.

Also Brady showed us what it is like having a great quarterback.

It seems every year there are games where I'm think the Patriots are going to lose for one reason or another (Brady is hurt, the D-line is bad, starting a rookie against Wake) yet somehow they win. The Patriots have won too many games where I thought they would lose for me to say anything other than that he is a great coach.

We get to see great coaches in action against our Dolphins 4 times a year. Some of you are still not ready to admit it, but Rex Ryan also falls into the category. Chan Gailey ain't lookin so bad in Buffalo either, but the jury is still out there.

There are some great coaches in the NFL, but Belichick is the best X's and O's guy out there right now. Add that to the fact that he got lucky with a 6th round pick and drafted the best QB in the league, and you quickly see why he can take chicken s*** and make chicken soup, year after year after year. Not to mention that he takes our cast-offs and beats us with them. Do you need any more proof than that? What was it that Bum Phillips used to say about Don Shula, again?

(that was a rhetorical question, I think everyone knows what he said)

Belichick really is a genius, and, IMHO, you are dead on correct in your assessment that our coaches are not anywhere near his league. He's not perfect, but to beat him, you have to be at your absolute best, hope that he doesn't have his team at their best... AND get a little lucky.

It's funny I agree with both the original poster and with the people that are throwing sarcastic criticisms at Bill Belichick.

It leaves me very confused.

Bottom line to me is yes this is another one you can file in the Belichick folder under examples of great ideas he's come up with. Honestly I wish I'd thought of it, but I didn't. I only saw what was going to happen, with much horror, when I watched the Patriots play the Buccaneers in preseason. I commented on it a lot, said it's genius, that THIS is how you leverage a well-established and constructed offense headed by a great quarterback against defenses that are coming off a lockout-shortened off season.

I hope the Miami staff also noticed it, and planned for it. If not, they're pretty dumb. And if they did notice it and planned/practiced heavily for it, then that carries with it a different set of "uh oh".

No, he played very well and showed great improvement in many areas.

But having Tom Brady allowed the Patriots to execute the game plan they executed to near-perfection, and it allowed them to beat us by multiple touchdowns in our own house. And so Dol-Fan Dupree is right on in being jealous that these are the kinds of things you can do when you have a Tom Brady.

There is a huge line between great and sucks. Henne played well, however if watching the game you couldn't see the huge canyon of ability that seperates Brady and Henne at this moment of time, then you are blind.

"ckparrothead wrote:

No, he played very well and showed great improvement in many areas.

But having Tom Brady allowed the Patriots to execute the game plan they executed to near-perfection, and it allowed them to beat us by multiple touchdowns in our own house. And so Dol-Fan Dupree is right on in being jealous that these are the kinds of things you can do when you have a Tom Brady.

Those are the types of things you can do when you have two ridiculous TE's and a great OL. I think it had less to do with Brady than that.

"aesop wrote:

It's a slight because it is insinuating that Henne is a bum by saying Brady's performance was great. If his performance was great, what was Henne's? Did Henne have 5+ seconds every play (exaggeration) to make a pass? Does he have the same weapons? He still put up a ridiculous performance with 460+ yards and people who have been criticizing ad-nauseum about Henne's ineptitude still won't give a LITTLE credit where credit is due. Just subtle jabs and no praise.

It is insinuating that Henne is not a great quarterback.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

There is a huge line between great and sucks. Henne played well, however if watching the game you couldn't see the huge canyon of ability that seperates Brady and Henne at this moment of time, then you are blind.

The ability that surrounds them is the difference. Henne did more with less. If you can't see that you're blind and also ignoring half the **** that is said about this regime by the haters. If Henne can put up 460+ yards with what you guys have been calling an unqualified regime and ****ty coaches with lesser talent, who looks better? Am I saying he is better than Brady? Hell no. But did he do more than Brady Monday night? In my opinion, yes.

"aesop wrote:

Those are the types of things you can do when you have two ridiculous TE's and a great OL. I think it had less to do with Brady than that.

Yea, it had less to do with amazing accuracy, great decision making and beautiful ball placement.

To me, with Belichick, it's not just X's and O's. It's whole franchise management.

That's one thing you notice over the years. There have been a lot of coaches that have shaken off the Belichick "tree" so to speak, and they've really had very mixed results. Mangini was an awful Head Coach. Charlie Weis wasn't even a good college Head Coach. Romeo Crennel was not a good Head Coach. Josh McDaniels was an awful Head Coac. Even the coordinators, guys like Brian Daboll, they've really been kind of mixed as coordinators and assistant coaches.

And so you look at all that and say...whatever those guys' experience was on those Belichick coaching staffs, they didn't learn from it to the point where they know the recipe for the secret sauce.

And yet you have had some front office guys shake off that tree, guys like Tom Dimitroff and Scott Pioli himself...and those franchises are having more success (blowout loss to Bills notwithstanding) than the usual coach that shakes off the tree. It makes me think that while Belichick is definitely a good X's and O's guy, it's the entire team management functions that make him special.

You see things year in and year out like their ALWAYS trading a present pick for a future pick that is a round better. That's an innovative idea and one that most other coaches in the NFL just seem not to believe in, but it's responsible for their embarrassment of riches every year in terms of draft picks available to them. They don't even necessarily draft particularly well, which is kind of well documented, but they get more shots on goal with all the extra draft wealth every year, and so they do fine.

And now this thing with the hurry up and the cramping and taking advantage of defenses not being very well-oiled after the lockout...I mean that's just genius, and I don't know that it truly falls under the "X's and O's" category.

"aesop wrote:

The ability that surrounds them is the difference. Henne did more with less. If you can't see that you're blind and also ignoring half the **** that is said about this regime by the haters. If Henne can put up 460+ yards with what you guys have been calling an unqualified regime and ****ty coaches with lesser talent, who looks better? Am I saying he is better than Brady? Hell no. But did he do more than Brady Monday night? In my opinion, yes.

Really? You think that Henne did more with less? Henne has a better running threat, much better wide receivers and a pretty good receiving tight end.

I haven't called this regime or coaches bad.

Then I completely disagree with your opinion. Brady did more than Henne, especially when it came to converting 3rd downs.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Yea, it had less to do with amazing accuracy, great decision making and beautiful ball placement.

He has the time to make great decisions and the talent around him to have those decisions available to make. He did make some great throws but he had all day to do it. Henne was scrambling around for his life with Incognito allowing admittance to the backfield anytime he wasn't busy getting drive-killing holding penalties.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Really? You think that Henne did more with less? Henne has a better running threat, much better wide receivers and a pretty good receiving tight end.

I haven't called this regime or coaches bad.

Then I completely disagree with your opinion. Brady did more than Henne, especially when it came to converting 3rd downs.

Marshall, Hartline, Bess, Fasano > Ochocinco, Branch, Welker, Woodhead, Gronkowski ? And our line is better?

"aesop wrote:

He has the time to make great decisions and the talent around him to have those decisions available to make. He did make some great throws but he had all day to do it. Henne was scrambling around for his life with Incognito allowing admittance to the backfield anytime he wasn't busy getting drive-killing holding penalties.

What about all those passes that were ridiculously quick. Also he wasn't standing there like a statue, even at the time he had 6.8 seconds to pass the ball he was moving in the pocket.

Henne wasn't scrambling for his life. You are acting like the only difference between Brady and Henne is the offensive line.

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Amen. You'll never see Belichick caught off guard with the Wildcat or inverted Veer, or any of that silly stuff.

When Sparano wins 3 superbowls, better yet wins a playoff game, then we can take pot shots at BB. Till then, we look stupid if we do so.

"aesop wrote:

Marshall, Hartline, Bess, Fasano > Ochocinco, Branch, Welker, Woodhead, Gronkowski ? And our line is better?

One thing that makes all of the Patriots better is, Brady > Henne.

I'm talking about the single game. Not all time stats. I disagree that Brady's performance was more impressive than Henne's based on the personnel and coaching each team has. If we can't agree on which team has the better roster this is a pointless debate.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

One thing that makes all of the Patriots better is, Brady > Henne.

Again, I agree that Brady is better.