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I am all for upgrading but not with next year draft pick trade (long post)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by fastball83, May 6, 2011.

  1. fastball83

    fastball83 Active Member

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    Like my title tell, I think we absolutely need upgrading our beloved team but I really don’t spend our Fa spend next year draft pick ( we will need the maximum ammunition to trade up if necessary to pick our future franchise QB).

    So with that in mind, I think our FO must absolutely search in the FA player pool and on player that could be released.

    I did that, and I see many names that could be available and in competition with our future starters if we could sign them.

    At QB : 3 names could be available after cut : 49ers will not keep alex smith, david carr and kaepernick on their team, so I look at CARR , SMITH and my third choice is a QB we could had but ……..

    Here we go
    David carr
    Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
    2002-03 Houston 16 62.8 233 444 52.5 2592 162.0 5.8 9 15 59 282 17.6 4.8 3 76 411 19 6
    2003-04 Houston 12 69.5 167 295 56.6 2013 167.8 6.8 9 13 27 151 12.6 5.6 2 15 90 4 0
    2004-05 Houston 16 83.5 285 466 61.2 3531 220.7 7.6 16 14 73 299 18.7 4.1 0 49 301 10 2
    2005-06 Houston 16 77.2 256 423 60.5 2488 155.5 5.9 14 11 56 308 19.3 5.5 1 68 424 17 6
    2006-07 Houston 16 82.1 302 442 68.3 2767 172.9 6.3 11 12 53 195 12.2 3.7 2 41 240 16 7
    2007-08 Carolina 6 58.3 73 136 53.7 635 105.8 4.7 3 5 17 59 9.8 3.5 0 13 74 1 0
    2008-09 NY Giants 3 144.1 9 12 75.0 115 38.3 9.6 2 0 8 10 3.3 1.3 0 1 2 0 0
    2009-10 NY Giants 6 93.6 21 33 63.6 225 37.5 6.8 1 0 9 27 4.5 3.0 1 2 11 1 0
    2010-11 San Francisco 1 23.6 5 13 38.5 67 67.0 5.2 0 1 0 0 0.0 N/A 0 1 5 0 0
    Career 92 74.9 1351 2264 59.7 14433 156.9 6.4 65 71 302 1331 14.5 4.4 9 266 1558 68 21

    Resume : That aren’t superstars stats but CARR never played behind a solid OL with TEXANS and when he faced our team, he beat us + in his GIANT JERSEY, look at his stats behind a solid OL and like me you could think perhaps he would not be a bad choice behind our OL ( we hope all since our draft that our OL will be a top 7 OL in NFL this year) and he could IMO really be a good stopgap solution for the next 2 year with Henne and our future franchise QB.




    Alex Smith :

    Career Stats Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
    Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
    2005-06 San Francisco 9 40.8 84 165 50.9 875 97.2 5.3 1 11 30 103 11.4 3.4 0 29 185 11 3
    2006-07 San Francisco 16 74.8 257 442 58.1 2890 180.6 6.5 16 16 44 147 9.2 3.3 2 35 202 10 5
    2007-08 San Francisco 7 57.2 94 193 48.7 914 130.6 4.7 2 4 13 89 12.7 6.8 0 17 121 6 5
    2009-10 San Francisco 11 81.5 225 372 60.5 2350 213.6 6.3 18 12 24 51 4.6 2.1 0 22 134 2 1
    2010-11 San Francisco 11 82.1 204 342 59.6 2370 215.5 6.9 14 10 18 60 5.5 3.3 0 25 140 4 2
    Career 54 72.1 864 1514 57.1 9399 174.1 6.2 51 53 129 450 8.3 3.5 2 128 782 33 16


    Resume : One more time, no superstars stats but his last 2 years his stats are improving, and never played under the same OC and philosophy, so perhaps he is winning in maturity and he could be solid behind a solid OL and without doubt miniscule interest in the league for him, he could be cut or buy with a late round pick or a late and why not merling !

    Brady Quinn

    Career Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
    Year Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
    2007 Cleveland 1 56.8 3 8 37.5 45 45.0 5.6 0 0 0 0 0.0 N/A 0 0 0 0 0
    2008 Cleveland 3 66.6 45 89 50.6 518 172.7 5.8 2 2 5 21 7.0 4.2 0 1 9 0 0
    2009 Cleveland 10 67.2 136 256 53.1 1339 133.9 5.2 8 7 20 98 9.8 4.9 1 19 104 4 3
    Career Totals (Full) 14 66.8 184 353 52.1 1902 135.9 5.4 10 9 25 119 8.5 4.8 1 20 113
    4 3

    Resume : My third choice, but he’s young and he could compete with Henne behind a solid OL too.

    At RB : IMO we will resign either Ronnie or Ricky ( I tell you than before his speech, Ricky was my favourite choice………….now after his speech, I don’t know what to think about him , but we will sign one of them and why not a speedster but IMO not Sproles (too much money).

    At WR : sorry guys who think we are set, but I disagree, I think we need help here too because if Marshall or Bess goes down…….we are doomed in the abyss……and don’t tell my gates can be the guys………because in his first year his rolel will be to learn and be a speedster on 3 and 4 WR set

    My choice here is Mark Clayton :

    Career Stats Receiving Kickoff Returns Punt Returns Fumbles
    Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD KR Yds Avg Long TD PR Yds Avg Long TD Fum FumL
    Baltimore 14 44 471 33.6 10.7 47 5.0 23 2 0 0 N/A N/A 0 6 30 5.0 10 0 0 0
    Baltimore 16 67 939 58.7 14.0 87 5.7 42 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Baltimore 16 48 531 33.2 11.1 52 2.9 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Baltimore 16 41 695 43.4 17.0 70 4.6 23 3 1 12 12.0 12 0 0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0
    Baltimore 14 34 480 34.3 14.1 54 2.5 24 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
    St. Louis 5 23 306 61.2 13.3 39 4.2 15 2 0 0 N/A 0 0 0 0 N/A 0 0 0 0
    Career 81 257 3422 42.2 13.3 87 4.3 157 14 1 12 12.0 12 0 6 30 5.0 10 0 1 1



    Resume : not starters stats here, but solid back up with better average than Marshall last year and he possess experience, he’s not old could be add in FA market and IMO he’s better than Wallace or Moore.

    At TE : I’am fine with Fasano and Clay , and I have a feeling that Clay will be a special player (good catch ability, not bad blocking and always find a free space in the opponent defense) and will become our franchise TE for many years to come.

    At OL : I think we will add 1 depth guy in insurance policy but not a big name because with Long-incognito-Pouncey-Jerry-Carey we have a really solid OL, we only need another Back up with Berger and garner

    At DL : Our best unit IMO, we have ability and depth, so I could see a Merling or Starks trade to win next year draft pick or in package for 1 QB…….but IMO Kearse was a lost pick because we haven’t need another DL and I would have preferred a QB prospect like taylor Potts, Ben Chappell or Van Camp with this pick.

    At LB : I could see us to push for another OL pass rusher in case Misi or Wake goes down at ILB I think Crowder could be cut or traded because with Dansby, Dobbins and Edds we are set

    At CB : I really would like us to add another ex hurricane in Phillip buchanon, I really think he could be better than benny sapp or jimmy wilson in our DB

    At safetie : IMO we are set and we will see this year if clemons is our FS for many years or he struggle, we will pick a safetie too in next year draft or FA period.

    I send you a hello from france and hope read your opinions finsfans !
     
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  2. fastball83

    fastball83 Active Member

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    sorry stats board aren't in the wanted format, that 's yahoo stats board
     
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  3. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    No go with Henne.
     
  4. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    This one of the few French Dolphin fans in the world so please give him some slack.
     
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  5. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    It explains soooo much. Doesn't explain wanting David Carr, but still explains a lot.
     
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  6. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    BTW don't worry about your english, we have folks living here that won't take the time to learn to speak english. Which to me shows you have way more respect for us than they!
    Hello back, and WELCOME!

    Now for your post I think 1. Carr scares me in that he has been beat up badly, very hard to come back from that and be successful. 2. By all accounts Alex Smith has been wooed by the 49ers to return and he is open to doing that which leaves us with your 3rd choice of 3. Brady Quinn, my understanding is that Daboll does not think highly of this guy and quite frankly I don't either. I say that with much respect to you!

    If we must have a Vet to challenge Henne there are a few on the junk pile that might last a year but ........ having said all that If Henne is this HC's choice, it appears it is then bring back Thigpin, who he also likes and let the best man win.

    This way we neither waste a 2012 draft pick and the cost in money and effort in getting a Vet up to speed is curtailed to a managed level imo.

    Hope to see you post often.:up:
     
  7. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Good to hear from any Finfan from overseas! I don't really agree with the WR position, I think we have a lot of youngsters now that I want to see play before we get a vet. I think that the Qb situation is interesting, do we get a legit challenge to Henne or do we go with a career backup and avoid a competition? I think we need to force Henne to outplay a vet and if he doesn't perform in the preseason he needs to sit. Henne needs to be challenged and we need to force him to open it up and use that god damn arm he has and take shots.
     
  8. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    The necessity for Henne to "earn" the job may have left w/ Pennington. The team was still loyal to Penne, not Bulger or Hasselbeck or anyone else. For me, its either build around Henne & support him, or get rid of him and build around some other young QB. Chasing washed up vets like Culpepper, Feeley, Green, Griese & Harrington will get us just what we've been getting, more suckage.
     

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