How is Ajayi ranked so low going into next year?

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 08:37 PM

"jdang307 wrote:

Some have taken issue even in posts where I was defending Tannehill, because they still perceived it as me ripping Tannehill. It's obnoxious at this point.

It actually proves we're reasonable and that you and your ilk misrepresent us completely. See the problem is you guys think we're defending Thill at all costs and what you just said proves we aren't. We are pointing out when you're wrong and we do it whether you're defending Thill or not, because we aren't here to defend him no matter what.

You guys not understanding that is your own problem.

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 08:47 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

:jt0323:

:morning:

"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jun 26, 2017, 09:00 PM

"Rickysabeast wrote:

Dude. Grow up and quit whining. We're all sick of you.

dude you just got to this site and saying things like you speak for a consensus is so out of line and disrespectful, pisses me off that you think you can say sh$$ like that...talk about growing up.

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 09:05 PM

"jdang307 wrote:

Some have taken issue even in posts where I was defending Tannehill, because they still perceived it as me ripping Tannehill. It's obnoxious at this point.

There was a time when you couldn't post ANY type of criticism of Ryan w/o it starting a fight. Not just with one poster either, but a handful.

2 things happened last year.

1.) When Ryan came out of the gates poorly many of his most loyal of backers started to agree he needed to move on.
2.) He finally started to play at a high level in the middle of the season and there wasn't a reason to really criticize him.

So last year wasn't nearly as bad...but yes during that stretch wherein you didn't blame the OL, WRS, OC, HC, DEF, Trump, Global Warming before having anything other than an apologetic take on 17? You got an earful.

Moral? As long as Ryan plays at a high level we won't disagree nearly as often with each other.

"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 09:10 PM

"dirtylandry wrote:

So is he leaving for good?

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I do not feel like that is the best solution. Excommunicating a member should always be a last resort IMO.

"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Jun 26, 2017, 09:22 PM

"dirtylandry wrote:

So is he leaving for good?

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I think some people here need to look in the mirror, and I'm not talking about him.

A lot of pots calling the kettle black.

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 09:28 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

I think some people here need to look in the mirror, and I'm not talking about him.

A lot of pots calling the kettle black.

I thought you were just eating popcorn?

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"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Jun 26, 2017, 09:42 PM

"Fin-O wrote:

I thought you were just eating popcorn?

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I was, but I have this nasty little habit of saying truths even when it might make the situation worse. Plus I ran out of popcorn.

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 09:48 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

I was, but I have this nasty little habit of saying truths even when it might make the situation worse. Plus I ran out of popcorn.

I like truths.

I simply expect a man of your incredible aptitude to take that gift and distribute it equally.

Where were you when Landry was being cussed out? At home washing your tights?


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"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

TriggercutTriggercutforum_veteran
Jun 26, 2017, 09:58 PM

"Fin-O wrote:

1.) When Ryan came out

Whoa, whoa whoa. With that wife he did this?

Don't throw to Venus on a Spider-3 Y-Banana

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Jun 26, 2017, 10:02 PM

"Fin-O wrote:

I like truths.

I simply expect a man of your incredible aptitude to take that gift and distribute it equally.

Where were you when Landry was being cussed out? At home washing your tights?


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Making popcorn.

I'm not for people leaving. And Landry can handle himself -just like he did when people asked him to provide context for his link; which has been the expectation here since the site started. He had no issue being snarky by telling them they can view it when they get home, or to buy an iPhone. I didn't say anything and I haven't condemned him here either even though I think it was uncalled for as people do work and have limitations on what they can view and it has been an expectation here since day one.

I didn't jump in then either. But I don't like people leaving, especially those who have been here for a long time. I've left it alone, until people start saying that it should be someone's last post. There are two sides to every coin; if that's how one feels, then they themselves also can have a final post and be done if we want to get right down to it. But again, I think that's a bad way to go.

I've let them say whatever to each other, I have no dog in that fight. But being outside of it, I can see there are a few wrongs in here. Point blank, and I'm not taking sides with it.

The only time I've said anything is when people start making statements that someone should leave, it is not their decision. Other than that, they can argue all they want. There are some posters here I consider to be jackasses, I won't tell them to leave though as it isn't my place to do so. I don't own the place.

Plus I haven't seen him get cussed out in this thread, unless I've missed something. If you're referring to another thread I may not have seen it or again I've missed it. If this is a long standing issue I may not be as up to speed with it overall.

Plus it is laundry day and yes I was washing my tights. :wink2:

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 03:11 AM

"Conuficus wrote:

I was, but I have this nasty little habit of saying truths even when it might make the situation worse. Plus I ran out of popcorn.

That's exactly what I did earlier here....it's rarely the best move.

"Conuficus wrote:

The only time I've said anything is when people start making statements that someone should leave, it is not their decision. Other than that, they can argue all they want. There are some posters here I consider to be jackasses, I won't tell them to leave though as it isn't my place to do so. I don't own the place.

I think some people here need to look in the mirror, and I'm not talking about him.

I have tried to stay out of the arguments for a couple of years now- I literally had 15 people on ignore up until a few months ago. But it got to the point where reading the forums was finishing a jigsaw puzzle...the conversations made no sense because people were replying to crazy things. So I took the ignores off to see what I was missing.

And what did I see? Two page threads became 29 pages...all with people arguing over nothing that had to do with football or the Dolphins. Personal insults flying everywhere, rules ignored, etc. Every single post I clicked on was hijacked, which made sense why nobody was responding when I posted to the OP on-topic.

Still, I tried to stay out of it until i saw people getting cussed out, being told they're stupid, idiots, morons, losers, etc. Nobody comes to forums to be belittled over something we are all supposed to love. So I started reporting both people I like here and the folks I don't care for....and the mods did a good job of getting the hate speech and rule violations to stop- ALMOST.

I stood up for Landry because even if he did break an unwritten rule of not sharing a link, a few others were violating written rules about attacking people, being hateful, etc. Your pot and kettle analogy fits perfectly.....let me break six rules to tell you you're breaking one rule. I was just tired of seeing people quit here over and over again because they're getting bashed over nothing. And despite what others have said, you can look at the site's numbers and see for yourself that active users have steadily declined over the years.

"Conuficus wrote:

A lot of pots calling the kettle black.

Welcome to the pot of the month club!

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 07:06 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

That's exactly what I did earlier here....it's rarely the best move.

I have tried to stay out of the arguments for a couple of years now- I literally had 15 people on ignore up until a few months ago. But it got to the point where reading the forums was finishing a jigsaw puzzle...the conversations made no sense because people were replying to crazy things. So I took the ignores off to see what I was missing.

And what did I see? Two page threads became 29 pages...all with people arguing over nothing that had to do with football or the Dolphins. Personal insults flying everywhere, rules ignored, etc. Every single post I clicked on was hijacked, which made sense why nobody was responding when I posted to the OP on-topic.

Still, I tried to stay out of it until i saw people getting cussed out, being told they're stupid, idiots, morons, losers, etc. Nobody comes to forums to be belittled over something we are all supposed to love. So I started reporting both people I like here and the folks I don't care for....and the mods did a good job of getting the hate speech and rule violations to stop- ALMOST.

I stood up for Landry because even if he did break an unwritten rule of not sharing a link, a few others were violating written rules about attacking people, being hateful, etc. Your pot and kettle analogy fits perfectly.....let me break six rules to tell you you're breaking one rule. I was just tired of seeing people quit here over and over again because they're getting bashed over nothing. And despite what others have said, you can look at the site's numbers and see for yourself that active users have steadily declined over the years.

Welcome to the pot of the month club!

No one but no one attacked him for not sharing a link. He was attacked because he lashed out at people because they asked for a link or because they provided an excerpt. That's your champion.

Many of us, including yourself in this thread (post #7), lash out because of frustration, but what Landry did was straight up malicious. That's why he got attacked. To say that's wrong, all while absolving him and doing your own attacking, is the problem.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jun 27, 2017, 07:37 AM

im not gonna even acknowledge the ridiculousness anymore..they get off on seeing their opinions in print become a topic..

you know what I like to do?..go watch Jay ajayi in college, imagine him behind dallas's online and study how gifted a runner this dude is..I mean he may not be quite as good as the best of the best in the league, but for a 4th round pick, someone who I wanted to draft, he's a freakin steal.

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Jun 27, 2017, 08:04 AM

Guess what? I will post stuff, maybe I will quote the source, maybe I will post the link, or maybe not.
It's amazing, because most of the posters on this thread would rather stay off subject because they can't formulate opinions on their own about the subject itself. they need to rely on sources to help their ideas.

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 08:15 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

Guess what? I will post stuff, maybe I will quote the source, maybe I will post the link, or maybe not.
It's amazing, because most of the posters on this thread would rather stay off subject because they can't formulate opinions on their own about the subject itself. they need to rely on sources to help their ideas.

You make posts based off of information from an article and that makes you a free thinker but requesting a link to the article you read so they can also read it and form their own opinion like you did makes a person a sheep and open for ridicule from you? Posting an excerpt from that article for people who may be blocked at work is also an offense worthy of your scorn?

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Jun 27, 2017, 08:17 AM

"Fin D wrote:

You make posts based off of information from an article and that makes you a free thinker but requesting a link to the article you read so they can also read it makes a person a sheep and open for ridicule from you? Posting an excerpt from that article for people who may be blocked at work is also an offense worthy of your scorn?

no woman, I post based on an article, and then I EXPAND on it. I don't care if someone can't open an article or wants a source.
what I do scorn are your worthless posts

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 08:20 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

no woman, I post based on an article, and then I EXPAND on it. I don't care if someone can't open an article or wants a source.
what I do scorn are your worthless posts

Woman? Of course, you're THAT guy too.

No, you did in fact, jump on another poster's post and heap scorn on them because they posted an excerpt from an article. They didn't insult you in any way, yet you attacked them. What are you not understanding about this?

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Jun 27, 2017, 08:22 AM

"Fin D wrote:

Woman? Of course, you're THAT guy too.

No, you did in fact, jump on another poster's post and heap scorn on them because they posted an excerpt from an article. They didn't insult you in any way, yet you attacked them. What are you not understanding about this?

do you provide any utility here? what are you a grade school teacher? checking every post for "checked boxes?" Listen, do us a favor. Just read the posts and don't reply, because it just takes up hot air and space. I'm done with your lack of Dolphin knowledge anyway

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 08:26 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

do you provide any utility here? what are you a grade school teacher? checking every post for "checked boxes?" Listen, do us a favor. Just read the posts and don't reply, because it just takes up hot air and space. I'm done with your lack of Dolphin knowledge anyway

You've been getting some terrible advice through PMs. I know the usual cast of characters have been telling you to go for it with me, but you're looking terrible and childish in following their advice. Just remember, they aren't telling you those things because they respect you (they don't), they are doing it because they hate me. You are just a means to an end they want but won't get.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Jun 27, 2017, 08:29 AM

Well you certainly can't say there haven't been insults on this page.

Jesus.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jun 27, 2017, 08:37 AM

"dirtylandry wrote:

no woman, I post based on an article, and then I EXPAND on it. I don't care if someone can't open an article or wants a source.
what I do scorn are your worthless posts

dude your out of control..

Fin-OFin-Oforum_veteran
Jun 27, 2017, 08:47 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

dude your out of control..

I agree.

But where were you when he was getting cussed out and shit on in another thread? Why didn't you stand up for what's right then, yet seem to be so disgusted with a "woman" comment?

I'm just be being honest here, Landry was the centerpiece of one of the worst lashing outs in this sites history, yet I have a weird feeling HE or someone else will be given a "vacation".

And that's the problem.

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"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"

dirtylandrydirtylandryNew Member
Jun 27, 2017, 08:49 AM

"Fin-O wrote:

I agree.

But where were you when he was getting cussed out and **** on in another thread? Why didn't you stand up for what's right then, yet seem to be so disgusted with a "woman" comment?

I'm just be being honest here, Landry was the centerpiece of one of the worst lashing outs in this sites history, yet I have a weird feeling HE or someone else will be given a "vacation".

And that's the problem.

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I missed that lashing. LOL. can you send me the link?
who did it?

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RickysabeastRickysabeastNew Member
Jun 27, 2017, 08:51 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

dude you just got to this site and saying things like you speak for a consensus is so out of line and disrespectful, pisses me off that you think you can say sh$$ like that...talk about growing up.

Oh here we go. The you're the new guy attack. Somehow because you were on this site back when you had to use a typewriter somehow invalidates my statement. I wasn't speaking for you, I don't even know you. Actually until that post, I'd never even seen you. I don't know how you have posted so many times as I've been on here for a year without even coming across you or your posts are so unmemorable that you didn't stand out. Do you want a site to post on? Then "new guys" like me need to actually want to keep coming on here. I've been a Dolphins fan for 30+ years. Was on Finheaven since it's inception and left because of all the bickering that happens just like on this thread.

There's a bunch of you that are just grumps and channel your failure at your middle management Kia sales positions into your infrequent and angry posts. It's not necessary. Keep it fun or regardless how long you have been here, go away or just go talk to your fellow grumps and slap me on ignore. This is supposed to be about the Dolphins not argument style.

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