How good is Gholston? Just ask Michigan's Long

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ATVZ400ATVZ400New MemberOP
Apr 15, 2008, 04:26 PM

So now it's Michigan's Jake Long who has the Miami Dolphins' interest, and it's easy to see why. He's a premier left tackle who was beaten for one sack his senior season.
That's right, one.

Chad Henne had a tough time avoiding Vernon Gholston last November. (Getty Images)
And the guy who beat him? Well, he's on the Dolphins' radar, too. That would be Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston, and I can't think of another prospect who climbed NFL Draft boards more quickly since the end of the season.
Once Gholston was a first-round pick. Then he was a top 10 choice. Now, he's a possible top five pick, with Miami not out of the question.

Good read
LINK to rest of story

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10779234

ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:27 PM

Bro thanks for all these updates.

ATVZ400ATVZ400New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:27 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Bro thanks for all these updates.

no problem....:up:

ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:31 PM

From the article......

"Gholston has rare strength for a defensive end, able to bench press 475 pounds, and he's explosive, relentless and disruptive. At the February scouting combine, Gholston ran a 4.65 40 and benched 225 pounds 37 times, tying -- who else? -- Jake Long for the best performance. That was impressive. But then he ran a 4.58 and had a 42-inch vertical leap at his pro workout, and suddenly Gholston's name started appearing no lower than sixth on most mock draft boards. "

Freak of nature is the word to describe him imo.

" "When I look at him," said one AFC player personnel director, "I see Carl Banks. I guarantee he has double-digit sacks his rookie year."

Interesting note, Carl Banks was a pick of Bill Parcells in the mid eighties, '84 to be exact.

"1984 Carl Banks - Pro Bowl Linebacker (NFL 1980's All-Decade Team Member)"

http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/6329520

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Apr 15, 2008, 04:35 PM

"alen1 wrote:

From the article......

"Gholston has rare strength for a defensive end, able to bench press 475 pounds, and he's explosive, relentless and disruptive. At the February scouting combine, Gholston ran a 4.65 40 and benched 225 pounds 37 times, tying -- who else? -- Jake Long for the best performance. That was impressive. But then he ran a 4.58 and had a 42-inch vertical leap at his pro workout, and suddenly Gholston's name started appearing no lower than sixth on most mock draft boards. "

Freak of nature is the word to describe him imo.

" "When I look at him," said one AFC player personnel director, "I see Carl Banks. I guarantee he has double-digit sacks his rookie year."

Interesting note, Carl Banks was a pick of Bill Parcells in the mid eighties, '84 to be exact.

"1984 Carl Banks - Pro Bowl Linebacker (NFL 1980's All-Decade Team Member)"

http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/6329520

nice. i see merriman when i see gholston although merriman was a little bit more of a sure thing to me



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ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:37 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

nice. i see merriman when i see gholston although merriman was a little bit more of a sure thing to me

Funny, I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the article posted by ATVZ.

Great minds think alike :hi5:

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:38 PM

If Gholston was more consistent in college he would be the number 1 pick. He actually should have been putting up 20 sack seasons.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Apr 15, 2008, 04:41 PM

"alen1 wrote:

From the article......

"Gholston has rare strength for a defensive end, able to bench press 475 pounds, and he's explosive, relentless and disruptive. At the February scouting combine, Gholston ran a 4.65 40 and benched 225 pounds 37 times, tying -- who else? -- Jake Long for the best performance. That was impressive. But then he ran a 4.58 and had a 42-inch vertical leap at his pro workout, and suddenly Gholston's name started appearing no lower than sixth on most mock draft boards. "

Freak of nature is the word to describe him imo.

" "When I look at him," said one AFC player personnel director, "I see Carl Banks. I guarantee he has double-digit sacks his rookie year."

Interesting note, Carl Banks was a pick of Bill Parcells in the mid eighties, '84 to be exact.

"1984 Carl Banks - Pro Bowl Linebacker (NFL 1980's All-Decade Team Member)"

http://sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/6329520

Not Carl Banks, he was the stay at home LB who handled Te's.

Gholtson's washout potential is much higher then Chris or Jake Long's.

ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:46 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

If Gholston was more consistent in college he would be the number 1 pick. He actually should have been putting up 20 sack seasons.

"He never picked up a football until his sophomore year in high school and had just one season of defensive experience as a linebacker before being converted to defensive end when he arrived at Ohio State."

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/vernon-gholston?id=756

14 sacks sounds good to me if that statement is true.

ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 04:48 PM

I am not sure if this has been seen in the past. I searched the thread and was unable to find it but heres a chat with Vernon Gholston that ESPN had. The date seems to be unknown as it was not posted on the interview.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=19539

emocomputerjockemocomputerjockNew Member
Apr 15, 2008, 05:01 PM

What the heck does Gholston have to do with this guy?


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BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Apr 15, 2008, 05:19 PM

"alen1 wrote:

"He never picked up a football until his sophomore year in high school and had just one season of defensive experience as a linebacker before being converted to defensive end when he arrived at Ohio State."

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/vernon-gholston?id=756

14 sacks sounds good to me if that statement is true.

Gholston got 7 sacks in 2 games. You can understand why I think he should have been putting up 20 a season.

ALalen1New Member
Apr 15, 2008, 05:29 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Gholston got 7 sacks in 2 games. You can understand why I think he should have been putting up 20 a season.

Was never shown that stat, sorry. I can see now lol.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Apr 15, 2008, 05:30 PM

The problem with VErnon Gholston is pretty clear, he lacks instincts and he also lacks that maniacle drive ala a Shawne Merriman or any of the other "great" OLB's, even when he supposed to be agressive, he is not very aggressive.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Apr 15, 2008, 06:27 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

nice. i see merriman when i see gholston although merriman was a little bit more of a sure thing to me

Sure thing?? Didnt Merriman go in the late 1st round?

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Apr 15, 2008, 06:44 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Sure thing?? Didnt Merriman go in the late 1st round?

He looked like a sure thing to me. So did Pat Willis and they both went late. I dont equate draft order with how someone is supposed to perform per say. Many factors play into it. Still you're probably right. Willis and Merriman mustve had sme negatives though I dont recall what they were

Phillip Merling is a perfect example this year. He's supposed to go sometime after 10 and he's going to be an absolute beast for ten or more years in the NFL



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1) DT Dexter Lawrence - Clemson
2) DE Jaylon Ferguson - Lousiana Tech
3) OG Chris Lindstrom - Boston College
4) CB Amani Oruwariye - Penn State
5) DE Shareef Miller - Penn State
7) C Sean Krepcz - Nevada
7) RB Wes Hills - Slippery Rock

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Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Apr 17, 2008, 05:04 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

He looked like a sure thing to me. So did Pat Willis and they both went late. I dont equate draft order with how someone is supposed to perform per say. Many factors play into it. Still you're probably right. Willis and Merriman mustve had sme negatives though I dont recall what they were

Phillip Merling is a perfect example this year. He's supposed to go sometime after 10 and he's going to be an absolute beast for ten or more years in the NFL

If you didnt love Matt Ryan so much, I would nominate you to take Ireland's place as GM.

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