How does a 340 pound man (J. Martin) get bullied?

340 ponds isn't that big!

The bigger question is... why start yet another thread about this?

I'd think any one of the previous dozen or so discussing this matter would suffice.

"PlanB wrote:

When they grow up believing they are a victim from birth; No way they were not going to the media with this and turn this whole thing into something its not. Incognito is screwed blue and Tattooed. He messed with the wrong ****er to coin a phrase. (I hate that word as much as anyone) . But this is a grown 340 pound man running home to mama and papa. A Professional NFL player! God I hate the media for becoming a tool to help feed this victimization mentality. Ritchie is an *******. We all know that. But I truly believe all texts ,emails were taken out of context. Ritchie will be served on a platter to feed this B.S. and J. Martin, a boy among men will get a hefty settlement for being a victim. Something he was taught to be from birth.

So, let me get this straight, the sons of really smart people that attend Harvard are taught to be victims from birth?

"PlanB wrote:

When they grow up believing they are a victim from birth; No way they were not going to the media with this and turn this whole thing into something its not. Incognito is screwed blue and Tattooed. He messed with the wrong ****er to coin a phrase. (I hate that word as much as anyone) . But this is a grown 340 pound man running home to mama and papa. A Professional NFL player! God I hate the media for becoming a tool to help feed this victimization mentality. Ritchie is an *******. We all know that. But I truly believe all texts ,emails were taken out of context. Ritchie will be served on a platter to feed this B.S. and J. Martin, a boy among men will get a hefty settlement for being a victim. Something he was taught to be from birth.

With as little respect as I can muster, the bold and underlined is effing stupid.

If the man suffers from depression it is as real as your ignorance of this topic.

It's possible that Jonathan Martin suffers from mental illness. In that case he would be no more equipped to handle psychological or even physical intimidation from a supposed "friend" than a child would. That appears to be the leader in the clubhouse as far as what happened here.

If he were a normal adult, fully healthy from a psychological standpoint, a professional football player who is himself paid to be a bully on the football field, to target smaller and weaker players and dominate and bully them around the field...then I would say that this is purely a money grab, Martin and his representation trying to take advantage of a situation to maintain his eligibility to receive salary from the Dolphins and possibly to even receive punitive damages.

However, if he's got a mental illness then it explains the thin skin.

You can be bullied by someone smaller than you...

Vote this thread worst assumptions made without any reasonably intelligent support for premise, in a long time on this site.

Not one single piece of evidence has been put forth to support the theory set forth herein.

Just because you are a football player doesn;t mean that you enjoy getting into fights or other violence off the field. So the notion that Martin should have physically confrotned Incognito is kind of silly. Maybe he's just not that kind of person, which should be applauded actually.

"schmolioot wrote:

Just because you are a football player doesn;t mean that you enjoy getting into fights or other violence off the field. So the notion that Martin should have physically confrotned Incognito is kind of silly. Maybe he's just not that kind of person, which should be applauded actually.

1. Who said anything about enjoying getting into fights?
2. There doesn't need to be a physical confrontation at all.
3. Someone who is not "that kind of person" probably does not survive in professional football. Which is OK.

With all due respect, you don't know anything about his family other than where they went to school and where they work. We have no idea what kinds of morals, values, mentality, etc. they instilled in him.

You could be right. But you have no way of knowing at this point.

"ckparrothead wrote:

1. Who said anything about enjoying getting into fights?
2. There doesn't need to be a physical confrontation at all.

That's what many people have been saying, not you specifically.

If I suffer from depression and one of my patients yells at me, I can't sue the facility because the patient was super mean to me during therapy.

Also if I slammed my pen/chart and walked off the job without notifying a superior I would be let go.

Lmao!!! They old people bullied me. They called me boy. I quit and the old person is a bigot!!!!

Man now that I think of it I need to get a lawyer. Might have me a case.

"5ringshowboutU wrote:

If I suffer from depression and one of my patients yells at me, I can't sue the facility because the patient was super mean to me during therapy.

Also if I slammed my pen/chart and walked off the job without notifying a superior I would be let go.

Lmao!!! They old people bullied me. They called me boy. I quit and the old person is a bigot!!!!

Man now that I think of it I need to get a lawyer. Might have me a case.

Though your bedside manner needs work, you bring up an excellent point which is that the job description dictates the level of sensitivity applicable to this kind of thing. A prison guard can't sue because the inmates wouldn't stop insulting him. At some point, thick skin and a certain amount of what we commonly refer to as toughness becomes a job requisite.

Very easy, if you are an introvert who just wants to do his job and be left alone and there is an alpha (that is 8 years older than you and is popular among the locker room) likes to use you as a whipping boy.

One very obvious outcome of this situation is that a great deal of NFL fans have a very archaic world view reminiscent of more ignorant generations past.

It permeates football like a bad dream.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Though your bedside manner needs work, you bring up an excellent point which is that the job description dictates the level of sensitivity applicable to this kind of thing. A prison guard can't sue because the inmates wouldn't stop insulting him. At some point, thick skin and a certain amount of what we commonly refer to as toughness becomes a job requisite.

Very true. Although the prison still has to provide a safe environment for its employees. If the warden knows that there have been numerous riots and other threats of violence against staff and does nothing, and somebody gets hurt, the warden has a problem.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Though your bedside manner needs work, you bring up an excellent point which is that the job description dictates the level of sensitivity applicable to this kind of thing. A prison guard can't sue because the inmates wouldn't stop insulting him. At some point, thick skin and a certain amount of what we commonly refer to as toughness becomes a job requisite.

Sorry I'm not a professional blogger. Can you send me your perez hilton self help movies? ;)

"schmolioot wrote:

Very true. Although the prison still has to provide a safe environment for its employees. If the warden knows that there have been numerous riots and other threats of violence against staff and does nothing, and somebody gets hurt, the warden has a problem.

Nobody had gotten hurt. If richie had, infact, slapped his real mother then it would be on the warden. If the inmates threaten and nothing happens isn't it a safe enviorment?

"schmolioot wrote:

So, let me get this straight, the sons of really smart people that attend Harvard are taught to be victims from birth?

well thats what your saying for some odd reason.... he was obviously referring to lawyers in general.... i guess your lucky enough to know nothing about them ! Thats a good thing.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Though your bedside manner needs work, you bring up an excellent point which is that the job description dictates the level of sensitivity applicable to this kind of thing. A prison guard can't sue because the inmates wouldn't stop insulting him. At some point, thick skin and a certain amount of what we commonly refer to as toughness becomes a job requisite.

Agreed. People kept bringing up office examples which I felt were really off the mark. Reality is that the job requires a certain personality. That doesn't mean you can't be an intellectual or an introvert, but it does mean that you have to be able to respond to physical or verbal threats. And that response has to be a a little more direct than running to the coach or your parents.

Although it seems light years from happening, and it may never happen, I really would like to hear Jonathan Martin, in his own words, tell his side of the story.

Anyone else find it humorous that Martin's weight keeps going up? First it was 310, then 320, and now its 340. The poor guy will over 400 by the end of the week

"schmolioot wrote:

Very true. Although the prison still has to provide a safe environment for its employees. If the warden knows that there have been numerous riots and other threats of violence against staff and does nothing, and somebody gets hurt, the warden has a problem.

Thankfully Jonathan Martin never suffered from a prison riot under the Dolphins watch.

"P h i N s A N i T y wrote:

well thats what your saying for some odd reason.... he was obviously referring to lawyers in general.... i guess your lucky enough to know nothing about them ! Thats a good thing.

I am one, and proud of it.

Let's hope you never need one. If you do I imagine your tune will change