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Hines Ward released by Pitt.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dWreck, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Per Sports Center.

    Thoughts? Care?

    Idk.

    good hands, kinda meh as of recent
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic 30 years and counting Club Member

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    Except for a few glimpses last year, he really wasn't that effective. I like his blocking ability, but as a receiver, I'll take our young guys.
     
  3. Aqua4Ever04

    Aqua4Ever04 Write Travis Write Club Member

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    Antonio Brown and Emanual Sanders left him in their dust on the depth chart last year. I don't think he could even beat out Brian Hartline. He is this year's Derrick Mason.
     
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  4. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    I feel the same way as of now obviously, but i remember him as a huge play maker, i guess everyone has their time

    either way i dont think i saw pitt dropping him.
     
  5. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Probably gonna sign with New England, they could really use a veteran WR not named Ocho Cinco.
     
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  6. Jcouch1021

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    As reported by espn, mike Wallace will get tendered not franchised this year... I wont lie mike Wallace would be the best possible wideout that we could put across from Marshall, burner with hands who can get open downfield anytime
     
  7. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    He's way past his prime.
     
  8. Yellow Snowman

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    People better not start with HOF talk. No way he should be in the HOF. Good career, good tough player, but let him go off into the pasture. Retire in Black and Gold Hines and enjoy your retirement...
     
  9. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Most overrated player in my lifetime. Commentators acted like he was the only WR in the history of the NFL to throw a block.
     
  10. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic 30 years and counting Club Member

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    While I agree that he shouldn't be in the HOF, I think you're getting a little carried away. His numbers merit a HOF discussion, very similar to Jason Taylor discussion. The receivers ahead of him on the receptions list are Jerry Rice, Tony Gonz, M Harrison, C Carter, T Brown, T Owens, I Bruce. and Randy Moss and Andre Reed are right behind him at #9 and #10. So, that gives you 1 HOF in Rice. 3 sure fire HOFs in Tony G, T Owens and R Moss. 3 current finalists for HOF in Carter, Reed and Brown. and Marvin Harrison who will be discussed just like Hines Ward

     
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  11. Yellow Snowman

    Yellow Snowman New Member

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    Stats don't mean everything. HOF for me means amongst the best and you dominate. Hines does not qualify, Jason probably does. Hines was never one of the best couple WRs in the game. He should be in the hall of good, not hall of fame IMO

    And let me say this, his blocking is so damn overrated it is sickening. All that glorified blocks were cheap shots that alot of players are fined for. since he is Hines and the Steelers he is "tough" not a "cheap shot artist"
     
  12. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    Hines is probably done. He lost any ability to separate from DB's late in the year. Just like aqua said he's this years mason.

    As for whether he's a HOFER...you will probably get some voters who vote for him based on his career numbers and that will argue he had a point where he was great and that he maintained that excellence for a long enough period of time. A lot like baseball voters argue that longevity counts for something, I suspect that's what we will see here. He's a borderline case IMO and I wouldn't argue one way or the other. He has a solid resume though.
    2x SB champ
    1 SB MVP
    6 - 1000 yard seasons for a franchise that typically does not throw the ball at the same clip as other teams.
    More receptions than HOFER's stallworth and Swann combined.

    I can see the argument for and against
     
  13. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Argument AGAINST Heinz Ward in the Hall of Fame can be boiled down to one thing: Teams never had to gameplan against him. He was not a dominant player.

    I stole this from somebody else:
    Years in the top 5 for receiving yards: 1
    Years in the top 10 for receiving yards: 3
    Years in the top 5 for receptions: 2
    Years in the top 10 for receptions: 4
    Years in the top 5 for receiving touchdowns: 3
    Years in the top 10 for receiving touchdowns: 3
    Years leading the league in any major category: 0
    Pro bowls: 4
    1st team all pro selections in any publication: 0
     
  14. Yellow Snowman

    Yellow Snowman New Member

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    Having better stats than Stallworth or Swann doesn't say much to be honest.
     
  15. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    He would offer us nothing at this point, not even worth wasting someone's time looking.
     
  16. PhinPhanatic

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    Totally agree about blocking....wonder how he would be in the slot
     
  17. Aqua4Ever04

    Aqua4Ever04 Write Travis Write Club Member

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    This is a really good argument. I completly agree and I always thought Hines was a little over-rated. Espcially his whole "warrior, playing hurt" persona that he developed. Bull crap! Get up, dust yourself off and go to the next play. Don't draw all the attention to you just so everyone knows you're hurt.
     
  18. PhinPhanatic

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    Like him too but surely dont want to pay the kind of bucks he would require (and take away from other FA....OLB, FS etc) let alone give up our #8 overall pick. It would make sense for a team like NE who has such a late 1st rounder.
     
  19. brandon27

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    My thoughts:
    Its about time.

    Care?
    Nope. We dont need him. He's done.
     
  20. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    IMO the HOF should be all about impact. To be considered you have to have been considered among the top 5 at your position for some period of time. I think you should be a guy that the other team game planned or worried about. I'm not as big on longevity or numbers. I guess the best comparison is that I want my HOF to be more like the Rock and Roll HOF than the Baseball HOF.
     
  21. Aquafin

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    the poor house
    I would take Hines Ward any day just my own opinion .

    this hall of fame subject has me miffed how in hell can Vinny Testiverty spp ? get nominated when Kurt Warner who did more not get mentioned ?

    I want to go on record and say . why in hell is Zach Thomas and Brock Marion not getting mentioned they both deserve tobe talked about getting into the HOF.
     
  22. texasPHINSfan

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    Brock Marion? :lol:
     
  23. Springveldt

    Springveldt Season Ticket Holder

    Bad Angle Brock? WTF!?!?
     
  24. Alex13

    Alex13 Welcome to the NEW Miami Club Member

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    which is not a compliment for derrick mason right now, hines ward is done
     
  25. Aqua4Ever04

    Aqua4Ever04 Write Travis Write Club Member

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    My comment was a backhanded way of saying Hines is done.

    Last I heard about MAson was he got traded to the Texans. Did he catch a pass for them?


    Edit: Yeah he caught 6 balls for Houston and 13 for the Jets. 19 total catches in 2011.
     
  26. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    LOL seriously I was big fan of Brock Marion when he played here but he surely was far from HOF material :lol:
     
  27. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Wow can we aim the bar any lower?

    Someone call TO.
     

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