Hi. Just got banned from finheaven.com
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I am a cast off of FH as well.
While you are correct there is a small group that will attempt to silence you if you disagree. They do give plenty of warnings, and the "main guys" are pretty fair. I had lots of good times at FH, and was banned as well. However, I was warned many times before being banned. It was in retaliation to someone who is also banned. But, its their site, they told me not to respond to a certain member as I was out of strikes. Long story short I deserved it.
So "Redemption" I agree there sometimes are not the same rules for everyone, but I highly doubt you were banned for believing in God. I made some friends over there and enjoyed the banter, and discussing the Dolphins. I figured I would give it a shot over here.
I kept the same name in case any guys on FH who I had interactions with are over here and wanna bust my balls.
Hello Slk, Welcome to this site. If you read the time stamps you will see the thread you posted on is over a year old and abandoned. It is irrelevant today.
That said, you are welcome here but we do enforce a code which says "attack the post if you must, but never the poster' The mods here are fair and there is lots of good Dolphin information and discussion. Welcome.
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
"KeyFin wrote:
You have to let that stuff go, my friend. Christians used to be burned at the stake for sharing their views...you got banned from a lousy forum. It's not worth carrying all that hate and anger over not being accepted- just let it go and focus on your faith. I don't know what religion you are but I can almost guarantee that the teachings say not to carry grudges.
So forgive and forget...and talk about some Dolphins football instead.
When it came to burning at the stake, I know about the so called Christians burning suspected witches at the stake. Who was it that burned Christians? Regardless of whom it was, seems like throughout history, Christians dished it out at least as much as they received it.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"CashInFist wrote:
Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour. We are what He wants us to be. This is the article in question from our resident Genius:
Theoretical physicist, futurist, and bestselling author Michio Kaku has developed a theory that points to the existence of God using string theory.
String theory assumes that seemingly specific material particles are actually “vibrational states.”
His view about intelligent design has riled the scientific community because Dr. Kaku is considered one of its most respected and prominent voices. He is the co-creator of string field theory, a branch of string theory.
“I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence,” he stated, according to the Geophilosophical Association of Anthropological and Cultural Studies.
Dr. Kaku has continued Einstein’s search for a “Theory of Everything,” seeking to unify the four fundamental forces of the universe—the strong force, the weak force, gravity and electromagnetism.
The very purpose of physics, says Kaku is “to find an equation … which will allow us to unify all the forces of nature and allow us to read the mind of God.”
Because string theory may provide a unified description of gravity and particle physics, it is considered a candidate for a Theory of Everything.
To reach his conclusions about intelligence behind the universe, Dr. Kaku made use of what he calls “primitive semi-radius tachyons.”
A tachyon is a particle that always moves faster than light. Many physicists believe such particles cannot exist because they are not consistent with the known laws of physics.
As noted by Einstein and others, special relativity implies that faster-than-light particles, if they existed, could be used to communicate backwards in time.Dr. Kaku used a technology created in 2005 that allowed him to analyze the behavior of matter at the subatomic scale, relying on a primitive tachyon semi-radius.
When he observed the behavior of these tachyons in several experiments, he concluded that humans live in a “matrix,” a world governed by laws and principles conceived by an intelligent architect.
“I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence, not unlike a favorite computer game, but of course, more complex and unthinkable,” he said.
“By analyzing the behavior of matter at the subatomic scale affected by the semi tachyon pitch radius, what we call chance no longer makes sense, because we are in a universe governed by established rules and not determined by universal chances plane.
“This means that, in all probability, there is an unknown force that governs everything,” he noted.
However, the unknown force – the first cause that set everything into being and holds everything together is actually a person, Jesus Christ, Christians believe by faith.
In Dr. Kaku’s understanding, the Universe is possibly a symphony of vibrating strings emanating from the mind of God, with His cosmic music resonating through an 11-dimensional hyperspace.
The Japanese-American physicist states “physicists are the only scientists who can say the word ‘God’ and not blush.”
“To me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”
Read the rest here:
God is REAL. You are Welcome.
"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life. I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavouring to make our fellow-creatures happy. But, lest it should be supposed that I believe many other things in addition to these, I shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things I do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them. I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe." ~ Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason...And I, MrClean, wholeheartedly concur with Thomas Paine.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"MrClean wrote:
When it came to burning at the stake, I know about the so called Christians burning suspected witches at the stake. Who was it that burned Christians? Regardless of whom it was, seems like throughout history, Christians dished it out at least as much as they received it.
Its taken you 14 months to respond????
Who has persecuted Christians? Romans, Persians, Moslems, Turks, natives of most of south Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, Native Americans, Japanese, Chinese, and others too numerous to mention. Burning alive, flaying alive, crucifixion, etc. are all well documented.
Who have Christians persecuted? At times, most or all of the above. Sometimes using the same methods as applied to them.
Sometimes it was a quid pro quo, other times it was action and response, at all times it was tragic and unnecessary. I am not a big proponent of claiming a victim mentality. Historically that has allowed groups to prey on others when we should be praying for and with others.
"Redemption"'s claim was not widely accepted as "gospel" (pun intended) and as you have likely seen the majority of us on this site who actively practice and profess our Christian faith are a fairly tolerant, understanding group. In fact my most fervent prayer in recent years has often been, "Please God, save me from the people who claim to be on my side!"
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
"Ohiophinphan wrote:
Its taken you 14 months to respond????
Who has persecuted Christians? Romans, Persians, Moslems, Turks, natives of most of south Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, Native Americans, Japanese, Chinese, and others too numerous to mention. Burning alive, flaying alive, crucifixion, etc. are all well documented.
Who have Christians persecuted? At times, most or all of the above. Sometimes using the same methods as applied to them.
Sometimes it was a quid pro quo, other times it was action and response, at all times it was tragic and unnecessary. I am not a big proponent of claiming a victim mentality. Historically that has allowed groups to prey on others when we should be praying for and with others.
"Redemption"'s claim was not widely accepted as "gospel" (pun intended) and as you have likely seen the majority of us on this site who actively practice and profess our Christian faith are a fairly tolerant, understanding group. In fact my most fervent prayer in recent years has often been, "Please God, save me from the people who claim to be on my side!"
I don't generally check these introduce yourself threads. For some reason, I did today.
I kind of like the quote attributed to Gandhi. "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." The so called evangelicals are the worst. The words Evangelical Christian comprise an oxymoron IMO. Churches like yours and the United Methodists seem much more sensible and tolerant from what I can tell.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"MrClean wrote:
I don't generally check these introduce yourself threads. For some reason, I did today.
I kind of like the quote attributed to Gandhi. "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." The so called evangelicals are the worst. The words Evangelical Christian comprise an oxymoron IMO. Churches like yours and the United Methodists seem much more sensible and tolerant from what I can tell.
It is the use of the word "Evangelical" that is one of my pet peeves. In the 16th century, my ancestors in the reformation were sneered at by the existing catholics as "evangelicals" which was literally, "Gospel people". Its kind of like the way the phrase "Bible thumpers" gets used today as a put down. In fact in Germany today the phrase Evangelical is synonymous with what we here call "Lutheran". That our name has been co-opted with so little regard for the Biblical faith by folks who enforce a 21st century legalism, angers me.
I am as passionate about the Christian faith as anyone. But I reject utterly the way it is understood by many who claim its name.
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
"Ohiophinphan wrote:
It is the use of the word "Evangelical" that is one of my pet peeves. In the 16th century, my ancestors in the reformation were sneered at by the existing catholics as "evangelicals" which was literally, "Gospel people". Its kind of like the way the phrase "Bible thumpers" gets used today as a put down. In fact in Germany today the phrase Evangelical is synonymous with what we here call "Lutheran". That our name has been co-opted with so little regard for the Biblical faith by folks who enforce a 21st century legalism, angers me.
I am as passionate about the Christian faith as anyone. But I reject utterly the way it is understood by many who claim its name.
There is nothing at all Christian or Christ like with how many in this country want to treat foreigners, and immigrants, whether they are "legal" or not. I submit no one is illegal or everyone other than the indigenous peoples are illegal. This is all stolen land, whether directly stolen or purchased from others who stole it.
None in our history, when it comes to immigrants, were treated any worse than the Irish when they first started coming here. Yet, we see some of obvious Irish descent who seem to have no thought of what their ancestors went through with the way they treat immigrants these days.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"MrClean wrote:
When it came to burning at the stake, I know about the so called Christians burning suspected witches at the stake. Who was it that burned Christians? Regardless of whom it was, seems like throughout history, Christians dished it out at least as much as they received it.
I'll skip your question since it's already been answered, and add that more people have been murdered "in the name of God" than any other reason throughout our history. Those wars are still raging in the Middle East to this day.
As far as the other comments, there are very few Christian morals left in the world today. We worship smartphones and technology. The media focuses on anger and hatred...and we quickly jump on the bandwagon without all the facts (like you just did with illegal aliens). TV is filled with hate, violence, murder and sex. Reality stars and YouTubers are somehow seen as role models by our youth. With 24/7 entertainment, there's just not enough time left over for God in the 21st century.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
"KeyFin wrote:
I'll skip your question since it's already been answered, and add that more people have been murdered "in the name of God" than any other reason throughout our history. Those wars are still raging in the Middle East to this day.
As far as the other comments, there are very few Christian morals left in the world today. We worship smartphones and technology. The media focuses on anger and hatred...and we quickly jump on the bandwagon without all the facts (like you just did with illegal aliens). TV is filled with hate, violence, murder and sex. Reality stars and YouTubers are somehow seen as role models by our youth. With 24/7 entertainment, there's just not enough time left over for God in the 21st century.
Some of us still make the time!
BTW, your comment about killings "in the name of God" is also common hyperbole. Economics, control of goods, occupation of lands and the like, many would argue, are the real basis for conflict and war. Religion or faith is simply an excuse for an economic decision we have already made.
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
Fellas fellas fellas...
Dont we have enough people complain about things that happened hundreds of years ago that no one living ever took part in!?
We must all live in the NOW!!
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
"Fin-O wrote:
Fellas fellas fellas...
Dont we have enough people complain about things that happened hundreds of years ago that no one living ever took part in!?
We must all live in the NOW!!
My answer to the modernist Fin-O is to quote Hegel, "He who does not study history is condemned to repeat it!" Besides, this is the most civil, intelligent conversation of faith issues I have had in a long while. Clean and Key are good people, as are you, who care about the world and the people in it. So do I. It is fun for me to struggle with others how best to do that. American society today doesn't offer much opportunity for good debate, I grab it where I can!:amen:
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
"Ohiophinphan wrote:
Some of us still make the time!
BTW, your comment about killings "in the name of God" is also common hyperbole. Economics, control of goods, occupation of lands and the like, many would argue, are the real basis for conflict and war. Religion or faith is simply an excuse for an economic decision we have already made.
This a topic that's very near to my heart...but it's not appropriate for this forum/site. People do all kinds of things "in the name of God" and claim it as a Godly action, but that doesn't make it true. Here's an example- the OP claiming to be a devout Christian while plotting detailed revenge for someone insulting him on a former Dolphins forum. In the modern world we focus on SO MANY THINGS that don't matter because that's what society tells us to do. Sin is basically the new normal these days and this just isn't a Godly world.
Again, I'd love to go into details but it would probably end with someone getting banned. So I'm out of this conversation. =)
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
There is a religion forum: https://thephins.com/forums/religion-and-spirituality.49/
Just keep it to religion without politics.
"KeyFin wrote:
I'll skip your question since it's already been answered, and add that more people have been murdered "in the name of God" than any other reason throughout our history. Those wars are still raging in the Middle East to this day.
As far as the other comments, there are very few Christian morals left in the world today. We worship smartphones and technology. The media focuses on anger and hatred...and we quickly jump on the bandwagon without all the facts (like you just did with illegal aliens). TV is filled with hate, violence, murder and sex. Reality stars and YouTubers are somehow seen as role models by our youth. With 24/7 entertainment, there's just not enough time left over for God in the 21st century.
Hey, just like the old testament then.
As for Christian morals, anyone who needs the promise of a life after death or the threat of burning in a literal hell for eternity to be a good person, is a pretty damned sorry excuse for a human being.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"DrAstroZoom wrote:
Here's more on the subject:
Michio Kaku Clears up God Discovery
I appreciate this clarifier. It is consistent with what I see coming from news sources more interested in getting some kind of shocking headline rather then letting the actual information come through unmodified.
"MrClean wrote:
I believe in God, except I call it Nature.
I believe in nature; others call it God.
"KeyFin wrote:
I'll skip your question since it's already been answered, and add that more people have been murdered "in the name of God" than any other reason throughout our history. Those wars are still raging in the Middle East to this day.
As far as the other comments, there are very few Christian morals left in the world today. We worship smartphones and technology. The media focuses on anger and hatred...and we quickly jump on the bandwagon without all the facts (like you just did with illegal aliens). TV is filled with hate, violence, murder and sex. Reality stars and YouTubers are somehow seen as role models by our youth. With 24/7 entertainment, there's just not enough time left over for God in the 21st century.
"
Well, yes, we do need to name more, because while clearly there were wars that had religion as the prime cause, an objective look at history reveals that those killed in the name of religion have, in fact, been a tiny fraction in the bloody history of human conflict. In their recently published book, “Encyclopedia of Wars,” authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod document the history of recorded warfare, and from their list of 1763 wars only 123 have been classified to involve a religious cause, accounting for less than 7 percent of all wars and less than 2 percent of all people killed in warfare. While, for example, it is estimated that approximately one to three million people were tragically killed in the Crusades, and perhaps 3,000 in the Inquisition, nearly 35 million soldiers and civilians died in the senseless, and secular, slaughter of World War 1 alone.
History simply does not support the hypothesis that religion is the major cause of conflict. The wars of the ancient world were rarely, if ever, based on religion. These wars were for territorial conquest, to control borders, secure trade routes, or respond to an internal challenge to political authority. In fact, the ancient conquerors, whether Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, or Roman, openly welcomed the religious beliefs of those they conquered, and often added the new gods to their own pantheon. "
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-alan-lurie/is-religion-the-cause-of-_b_1400766.html
"Slk018 wrote:
Looks like the thread isnt dead and irrelevant..LOL
You have resuscitated a monster! :confused1::lol:
OHIOPHINPHAN
Witness to the first ever practice of the Miami Dolphins, 1966.
Not if we all keep our wits about us... Including me!
Being a military history afficianado as well as a (now retired) ordained minister seems a rather odd concatenation of mental exertions... but.. From what I have read, I concur with danmarino... almost all of the wars have had as their root an egotistical leader parading an economic base before the populace (either his or the one he wished to subjugate.) Even Hitler started his attempt at world domination seeking 'lebensraum' (I believe it is spelled) for the Aryan race. That was a bit of a fabrication (ahem!) on his part - but it became the same which has led to most wars - personal power of a tyrant seeking a tyrant's version of grandeur - domination and raw power.
We are real sailormen, the destroyermen of the fleet.
We can follow the tracks and ride the backs of the dolphins.
We will be where the action is in every situation.
When things are getting too rough for anyone else,
they're getting just right for us!
"Boik14 wrote:
Welcome Redemption. A lot of us were in FH at one time as this site split from there a decade ago. Long story.
You'll notice we have a religion forum (and a site chaplain) but no political forum and as such we don't post about politics due to the divisive nature.
As for your beef with FH, you're not the first person we have heard that from but we try and focus on what is really important here....the Miami Dolphins, girls, and booze :). We do not however believe it is a good idea to belittle or diminish other posters, even ones from other sites.
One thing to keep in mind with regards to daily traffic, quality is more important then quantity. :ffic:
its crazy that its been that long. Wow time flies. I joined in 2004 when i was 15. Known some of you for almost 15 years already... wow
"Jt0323 wrote:
its crazy that its been that long. Wow time flies. I joined in 2004 when i was 15. Known some of you for almost 15 years already... wow
Do you have the hat?
"Jt0323 wrote:
its crazy that its been that long. Wow time flies. I joined in 2004 when i was 15. Known some of you for almost 15 years already... wow
I've known some guys online since 1996, when I got my first computer and began following some Dolphins forums. The first one had guys like KB21, RevRick, Hellion, and several others on it, who are now all members here.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice