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Henne trying to remain upbeat

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rocky Raccoon, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Really good read about what happened after the news broke. Pennington and Henne have one hell of a relationship.

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...t-after-surprising-switch-to-chad-pennington/
     
  2. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    Lots to read about between the lines here. Sounds to me like both QBs feel like the coaching staff is being unfair and unreasonable to some degree.
     
  3. ascii

    ascii People Watcher

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    Robots have feelings? :shifty:
     
  4. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Henne has what it takes under the right system. The offensive coaching staff if screwing him over along with the team. Its so sad because with a different offensive coaching staff we may actually be super bowl contenders.
     
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  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I will be surprised to see Henne in a Phins uni come next year.
     
  6. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    He has one more year on his contract as a restricted free agent. Do not think he is going anywhere, not if they do not want to release him.
     
  7. frags

    frags New Member

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    I wholeheartedly agree. More and more frequently, the players are speaking out against the coaches. Another example being Marshall the other day. The writing is on the wall, imo, these coaches are trying to save their jobs...
     
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  8. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Well I hope this leads to coaching changes because thats what I feel like we need.
     
  9. HolliFinFan

    HolliFinFan Not a Face Painter Luxury Box

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    I didn't read it that way. In tune with the other comments about their congenial relationship, I think it means that there was no undermining between the two qbs for "favor" and that the decision was the coaches' alone.
     
  10. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    You may be right, but this quote looks pretty cut and dried to me.
     
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  11. HolliFinFan

    HolliFinFan Not a Face Painter Luxury Box

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    Yes, I read that, but Pennington's elaborating had more to do with their support of each other than criticism of the coaches IMO. I am surprised that he chose the word "fair." His further comment about being in the same situation I interpret similarly. :hi5:
     
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  12. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    So Pennington, the closest bystander to the situation besides the staff states outright that it's not Henne's fault. That line right there says it all for me.
     
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  14. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    So did we pick up Marshall so Pennington could throw up 20 yard wobblers to him? :no:
     
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  15. mroz

    mroz Rosen is a franchise QB Club Member

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    That my friend was cold... funny but cold...
     
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  16. mroz

    mroz Rosen is a franchise QB Club Member

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    He can throw the ball that far? :tongue2:
     
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  17. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    You get the feeling that if it were up to Pennington, even he would keep Henne out there. This is just baffling.
     
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  18. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thanks! Finally got to see what happened with my own eyes/ears

    One of the things Pennington said at the end of his press conference got me thinking. He mentioned something to the effect of "One of the great things about this situation is I'm at the end of my career, and Chad is at the beginning of his, so we're not two dogs fighting for the same piece of meat."

    What that says to me is that Pennington doesn't expect to be competing with Henne for a starting spot next year.

    So that bears in mind the question. Is Henne being benched for the remainder of the year because Pennington is better for this system, and playbook? Is it possible Henning realizes that the types of plays he's asking Henne to make, don't work towards his strengths?

    And if Pennington is suggesting he won't be here to compete with Henne soon, does that mean that the coaching staff believes that Henne will compete next year? If so they wouldn't throw him into the same system they feel failed him/he failed at.

    A lot of this "It wasn't his fault" stuff seems to me to really push that theory. The theory that they tried to turn him into a Pennington clone because they were retaining Henning for the year (for whatever reason), and realized it wouldn't work, so they scrapped that plan, and are going to see if Henne can be salvaged next year?

    I'm just throwing out ideas here. I really am just hoping and praying we don't see him go somewhere else, and make us regret giving up on him.
     
  19. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Henne was a convient scapegoat.
     
  20. mroz

    mroz Rosen is a franchise QB Club Member

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    Hopefully we can get a 4th rounder for him.
     
  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I think Henning will tweak some things in the offseason in regards to Henne and playcalling. I think they went with one approach this year and they will tweak it a bit to play to his strengths more next year. I think its something you almost cant do midseason because it involves too much time analyzing one player and the way the season is you need every minute to gameplan for your next opponent. I expect them to really work with Henne on getting more aggressive with his throws but teaching when those times are. I think Henne has had the bad luck of every time he gets aggressive he seems to pay for it so he goes back to playing safe
     
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  22. mroz

    mroz Rosen is a franchise QB Club Member

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    It has not dawned on him as of yet so I doubt it.
     
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  23. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    Over the course of the last 2 seasons Henne has become the player that I root for the most. If he leaves Dolphins I will be devastated :cry:
     
  24. HolliFinFan

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    I am not prophetic, but I would be surprised if Henne leaves/is waived/traded. Midway through the season, it is not the end of the world to change things up IMO. People keep talking about Henne's "confidence" and the move, yet I think they're reading too much into it. From the video I posted on this thread, he has full support, even from his "short-term" replacement. Henne simply has made too many mistakes, and yes, they are mistakes that can be corrected. If he is above self-re-evaluation while observing a while and can't recover his confidence, then he's really not a player we want. (I do not think this will be the case.)
     
  25. brandon27

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    Agreed.

    Agreed. Not just Marshall, but how about Ricky's comments in that interview with Sid that is posted here about henne not being allowed to audible. Troubling indeed.

    That being said, I get the move for the next 8 games, to win some games, win over some fans, wonderful... great... but we need to be thinking beyond these next 8 games as well.
     
  26. Miguel

    Miguel The smartest Man on earth

    HORRIBLE move. they should have let Henne finish the year
     
  27. Coral Reefer

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    That's just not corrrect.

    Game Plan installs vary every week depending on who a team is playing.
    You can change a ton of things and "stay in the system".

    This staff simply dosent know what they want to do.
     
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  28. Killerphins

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    That is a crock. When you have a young QB throwing the ball 35 times a game there are bound to be mistakes. They didn't do the necessary things to allow Chad Henne to be successful. Then you bench the guy even though it isn't his fault. Jesus the guy had to take time to calm down because he is devastated. How in the hell can you sit there and say people are reading too much into. I'm reading the story about a guy who has never been benched before ever. He says it in a way that leads you to believe he will suffer from this benching. If he doesn't get his confidence back we don't want him? Are you kidding me. They didn't give him a chance to get complete confidence then they rip out his heart and soul. Personally I think your post is one of the worst I've read on the subject. For one you can't even possible know a damn thing about how Henne is truly feeling inside. Observing for a while you say... Henne already observed for a year and won the job only to get the hook from a ridiculously impatient coach who couldn't develop Dan Marino. Your post is as ridiculous as the whole mess. This whole thing is on Dan Henning and his inability to manage an offense. I feel bad for Chad Henne and I hope for him he gets a chance to play for a team that isn't going talk him up then leave him to fail and kick him to the curb.
     
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  29. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    no comment, it's history
     
  30. ether79

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    so then why post?
     
  31. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    no comment until Pennington isn't the savior you ordered then you will be bashing him too.

    I give you a month tops....
     
  32. ascii

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    Was meant all in good fun, no harm intended. :hi5:

    I really think that Pennington is being sincere and feels that the situations on the field are not his fault.
     
  33. Miguel

    Miguel The smartest Man on earth



    Dude I HATE chad Henne And if even i agree that Benching Him is a bad idea you know its a BAAAD idea.
     
  34. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's pretty clear fans here are negative against the coaching staff and that's understandable. I like TS but don't think he's a very smart coach. I do think Nolan is. Henning is just part of the NFL's "Old Boy's Network" and that's not a positive thing.

    That said, I think that there is a positive here. Pennington has great leadership skills.

    I wouldn't read too much into Penny's support of Henne. I think that's part of his tremendous leadership skills.

    Bottom line - the best leaders in general are guys who are humble and get others on board contributing. The only negative about Pennington is arm strength. The fact that he's had a lot of time to rest and develop his arm is a positive. It won't be real strong but it may actually be fresh enough to get it done.

    Otherwise, he is uber-intelligent; he is a quicker decision-maker; he throws a catchable and extremely accurate ball. So, if he just throws it where Marshall can fight for it - we may have a real bonus there.

    Finally, if the play calling continues in similar fashion, the throws Penny will have to make are doable. Marshall is not a big deep threat anyway. He's an over the middle guy.

    The big thing is whether Penny will be able to shake off the rust of a year of not playing.

    Personally, I think Penny should now start the rest of the year unless we get to the final 3-4 weeks and we are mathematically eliminated.

    Not real positive about this game - with Moss coming in - and Tennessee has a great defense. But, into the weeks to come I think it could be interesting and beneficial.
     
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  35. HolliFinFan

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  36. padre31

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    Exactly, one would think Sparano took Ol' Yeller behind the barn and did him in, Henne was just benched, he wasn't shot..:D

    The fact is, most young Qb's are either benched, or come dangerously close to being benched, Elway, Penny, Young, Steve Young, it is a part of the make up to overcome it and play better when and if you get the chance to play.

    Meanwhile, I think I'm going to rent "where the Red Fern grows" and think about Chad Henne...:lol:
     
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  37. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Laugh now and make jokes but when Pennington picks up where he left off in 2009 the smiles and the laughter will leave. :up:
     
  38. Bpk

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    If it's a twenty yard wobbler to an open Marshall for a TD because Penny can read coverages and make better decisions then I'm all for it.
     
  39. padre31

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    To be replaced with cheers and :ffic::yes:
     
  40. HolliFinFan

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    I am not laughing at all. This is not ego to me about being right or wrong. I am posting to a qb change that I am cognizant I have no control over, considering all of the angles. I don't feel the need to make predictions, and I did not. (insert comment--withdrawn :lol:)
    I remember the 0-3 start. Sell your misdirected rants to a poster who is worthy--they abound these days; you won't have a problem finding one.
     

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