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Help identifying memory upgrade

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I've been pulling my hair out today trying to find what type of memory I need for some old Gateway laptops.

    The model is 5350, which should take a standard SODIMM chip, which I ordered, the problem is, this laptops are from a network/business environment and they were non standard.

    The memory I ordered looks like the module on the left:

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    Notice the center slot for insertion into the memory module?

    I "need" the memory on the right, but have no idea what to call it in order to look for it as in the past SODIMM pc 100mhz or 133mhz pcl memory always worked, that module is not the one I need...at all.

    The one I need is more of a credit card style module to fit into a single slot.

    And ot make matters worse, Gateway sold their business division to MPC...who promptly went out of business...oddly enough with these laptops the BIOS has a boot to network option which I had never heard of before.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Picture B looks like DDR memory.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    So if I were to search for say 512 mb upgrade I'd google:

    512mb DDR 133mhz 144pin?

    The memory slot is maybe 2/3 the size of a typical memory stick.

    The module that would not fit was pc100 cl-2
     
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    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Well DDR memory is 200 pin. If that is the right memory, I would try going with pc2100 which is 266mhz.

    http://www.memoryupgrade.pro/assets/img/324300_1_600w.jpg
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    one would be incorrect, the problem is Gateway would make special order laptops for Business, and that is what I have, for example according to the manual the 5350 has no onboard memory, the ones I have contain enough memory to run DSL linux via live disk and to do so easily.

    [​IMG]

    The problem with that is, I "need" 133mhz and that one is 333mhz, I "think" as I haven't a clue about what sort of memory a 1ghz processor can use, I know some memory can be too slow and not work.

    SDRAM Maybe?
     
  7. DaFish

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  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Ah, that is a catch-22, I can get it to work with a Linux live disk, but the memory scanner cannot scan linux systems.
     
  9. DaFish

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    What about the dmidecode command?
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Never heard of that one DaFish.

    What I may have to do is scrounge up a Win98 disk and format the HD and then try the Crucial scanner.

    Or take one down to the local repair shop and ask them.
     
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    http://linuxator.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/using-dmidecode-to-find-out-what-memory-chips-you-have/

     
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  13. DaFish

    DaFish Well-Known Member

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    Using the dmidecode code from the terminal should have given you this output:

    dmidecode --type memory

    server1:/home/admin# dmidecode --type memory
    # dmidecode 2.8
    SMBIOS 2.5 present.

    Handle 0x0008, DMI type 5, 20 bytes
    Memory Controller Information
    Error Detecting Method: 64-bit ECC
    Error Correcting Capabilities:
    None
    Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave
    Current Interleave: One-way Interleave
    Maximum Memory Module Size: 512 MB
    Maximum Total Memory Size: 1024 MB
    Supported Speeds:
    70 ns
    60 ns
    Supported Memory Types:
    SIMM
    DIMM
    SDRAM
    Memory Module Voltage: 3.3 V
    Associated Memory Slots: 2
    0x0009
    0x000A
    Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities:
    None

    Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
    Memory Module Information
    Socket Designation: DIMM0
    Bank Connections: 0 5
    Current Speed: 161 ns
    Type: ECC DIMM
    Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
    Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
    Error Status: OK

    Handle 0x000A, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
    Memory Module Information
    Socket Designation: DIMM1
    Bank Connections: 0 5
    Current Speed: 163 ns
    Type: ECC DIMM
    Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
    Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
    Error Status: OK

    Handle 0x0029, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
    Physical Memory Array
    Location: System Board Or Motherboard
    Use: System Memory
    Error Correction Type: None
    Maximum Capacity: 8 GB
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Number Of Devices: 2

    Handle 0x002B, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
    Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0029
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 72 bits
    Size: 1024 MB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM0
    Bank Locator: BANK0
    Type: DDR2
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
    Manufacturer: Manufacturer0
    Serial Number: SerNum0
    Asset Tag: AssetTagNum0
    Part Number: PartNum0

    Handle 0x002D, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
    Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0029
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 72 bits
    Size: 1024 MB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM1
    Bank Locator: BANK1
    Type: DDR2
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
    Manufacturer: Manufacturer1
    Serial Number: SerNum1
    Asset Tag: AssetTagNum1
    Part Number: PartNum1

    Better than the crucial scanner if you ask me because the is no need to install anything. I gotta get my Linux box back up and running.
     
  14. DaFish

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    Just had to add that I just got my Linux machine running today and tried the dmidecode command. It works. I copied this from my terminal window.

    eith@keith-laptop:~$ dmidecode --type 17
    # dmidecode 2.9
    /dev/mem: Permission denied
    keith@keith-laptop:~$ sudo dmidecode --type 17
    # dmidecode 2.9
    SMBIOS 2.31 present.

    Handle 0x0015, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
    Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0014
    Error Information Handle: No Error
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 256 MB
    Form Factor: SODIMM
    Set: 1
    Locator: JP21
    Bank Locator: DIMM 0
    Type: DDR
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: Not Specified
    Serial Number: Not Specified
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: Not Specified

    Handle 0x0016, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
    Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0014
    Error Information Handle: No Error
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 512 MB
    Form Factor: SODIMM
    Set: 1
    Locator: JP20
    Bank Locator: DIMM 1
    Type: DDR
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: Not Specified
    Serial Number: Not Specified
    Asset Tag: Not Specified
    Part Number: Not Specified
     

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