Has Penn State's on-field progress led to off-field problems?
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DonShula84moderatorOPSince 2002, 46 Penn State football players have faced 163 criminal charges, according to an ESPN analysis of Pennsylvania court records and reports. Twenty-seven players have been convicted of or have pleaded guilty to a combined 45 counts.
Most recently, former wide receiver Chris Bell pleaded guilty July 22 to making terroristic threats for an April incident in which he pulled a knife on a teammate in a university dining hall.
These criminal charges coincide with concerns from a former player, a recruiting analyst, local media and others that Penn State has pursued recruits who are good athletes but might have questionable character issues, in order to improve performance. The team under head coach Joe Paterno faced an unprecedented four out of five losing seasons from 2000 to 2004.
lol.
Lol, I saw this on ESPN earlier today.
It may indeed have affected their progress on the field. These players are talents that are needed on the field but they aren't available due to stupid decisions made.
You also have to question their scouting. Do they do their homework on these players? If you continue to have bad characters on the team, do you really think your going to win with a bunch of players that will be suspended an X amount of games yearly?
Stitchesluxury_boxAside from me disagreeing with the overall tone of the article, this quote is complete crap:
"You can remind them that 'We are Penn State' means all the students, not just the football team," he said. "My son's tuition is what enables them to send those punks on a free ride."
If that dude really thinks his son's tuition pays for the football players scholarships he is an utter fool.
I'm sure the millions of dollars the football team makes each season pays for no part of their scholarships. :rolleyes:
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
BuckeyeKingNew MemberWell move over Miami you just gave up Thug U to Penn St.
Stitchesluxury_box"BuckeyeKing wrote:
Well move over Miami you just gave up Thug U to Penn St.
They present no numbers for any other teams, so prove to me that Miami has had less encounters over that time period the nickname does not transfer.
Hell I would like to know OSUs, USCs, LSUs, and FSUs transgressions over the same time period.
This is not unique to Penn State (as in the problem resides around the country in regards to collegiate athletics), though it is unique to Penn State in that the campus is not used to it.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
"BuckeyeKing wrote:
Well move over Miami you just gave up Thug U to Penn St.
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DonShula84moderator"alen1 wrote:
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Dont worry, you'll get the title back soon enough. PSU is just borrowing it for now :up:
BuckeyeKingNew Member"Stitches wrote:
They present no numbers for any other teams, so prove to me that Miami has had less encounters over that time period the nickname does not transfer.
Hell I would like to know OSUs, USCs, LSUs, and FSUs transgressions over the same time period.
This is not unique to Penn State (as in the problem resides around the country in regards to collegiate athletics), though it is unique to Penn State in that the campus is not used to it.
The Penn St program is in shambles with 82 year old Joe Pa. They need to force him out after this season.
Ohio St has its fair share of punks but Tressel at least takes action.
"DonShula84 wrote:
Dont worry, you'll get the title back soon enough. PSU is just borrowing it for now :up:
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"Skeet84 wrote:
Well at least Penn State never signed Willie Williams. lol
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GREAT! Now I'm bipolar....:pity:
Fin-OmenalNew MemberPenn State= Joke!!
I realize there isnt much to do around that place but do you have to take 15 guys with you to beat up a handfull of dorks?
Then again when it's 11 on 11 they seem to struggle.:up:
Stitchesluxury_box"BuckeyeKing wrote:
The Penn St program is in shambles with 82 year old Joe Pa. They need to force him out after this season.
Ohio St has its fair share of punks but Tressel at least takes action.
Yea, I guess 3 consecutive bowl wins (1 a BCS game and 1 against an SEC opponent), 3 consecutive 9+ win seasons, and 3 consecutive DPoYs means shambles. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, not every program can be in such great shape as to lose consecutive bowl games and fail to beat any SEC team at the same time. :up:
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
Skeet84New Member"Stitches wrote:
Yea, I guess 3 consecutive bowl wins (1 a BCS game and 1 against an SEC opponent), 3 consecutive 9+ win seasons, and 3 consecutive DPoYs means shambles. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, not every program can be in such great shape as to lose consecutive bowl games and fail to beat any SEC team at the same time. :up:
That is what we like to call a BURN! :up:
DonShula84moderatorJoePa is being interviewed on Sportscenter tonight to defend his players/program for those interested.
I wonder if they consider Chris Henry and Adam Jones great characters.
BuckeyeKingNew Member"Stitches wrote:
Yea, I guess 3 consecutive bowl wins (1 a BCS game and 1 against an SEC opponent), 3 consecutive 9+ win seasons, and 3 consecutive DPoYs means shambles. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, not every program can be in such great shape as to lose consecutive bowl games and fail to beat any SEC team at the same time. :up:
man that 2006 Orange bowl vs FSU was a great game. Regardless that was his best season since 99. After that year they didn't see a bowl game until 2002.
I don't know if that jab at Ohio St was a insult given we take of business in the Big Ten and make to the big game. So we lost the past 2 years against the best team from the best conference in college football thats fine I can live with that.
BuckeyeKingNew Member"alen1 wrote:
I wonder if they consider Chris Henry and Adam Jones great characters.
I think that was WVU :wink2:
"BuckeyeKing wrote:
I think that was WVU :wink2:
I know but if they were on PSU, they would be loved for their great character in the community. I mean, who else gets better drinks for underage girls than Jones?