Harvin did test positive for marijuana!
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RickyNeverInhaledNew MemberOPHow stupid can you be? I don't understand how someone can fail a drug test that they knew was coming!
Harvin’s Positive Result Is Confirmed
Posted by Mike Florio on April 14, 2009, 10:08 p.m.Though NFLDraftBible.com took a lot of criticism a couple of weeks ago, and perhaps rightfully so, for naming six players as having tested positive for marijuana or banned substances at the Scouting Combine, we’ve confirmed that one of the players outed by the web site — Florida receiver Percy Harvin — indeed tested positive for marijuana at the Combine.
The news isn’t a surprise, given that neither Harvin nor his agent, Joel Segal, have disputed the original report.
The impact of the result on Harvin’s draft standing remains to be seen. Smoking marijuana is a fairly common phenomenon; the issue is whether a guy can stop doing it in order to avoid getting suspended.
The fact that Harvin wasn’t able to produce clean urine for a test that he knew he was going to be taking isn’t an encouraging sign.
You don't?! Ricky cough cough.. look at your avatar and name cough cough....
DonShula84moderatorMaybe he's actually dumber than even his Wonderlic score would suggest.
brandon27subscriberI just dont get how some of these kids can be so stupid. Boatloads of talent, the opportunity to make millions, and you do something this stupid??? Sure, this may not affect him much, but I mean... come on. at least try and help yourself out here.
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sking29forum_veteranWith all I have read about this guy he just seems like trouble. He has superb talent but if he ends up being a TO or Chad Johnson he won't be worth. I'm hoping the Fins, if they do take a WR, take a more stable good character guy.
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Phinz420New Member"brandon27 wrote:
I just dont get how some of these kids can be so stupid. Boatloads of talent, the opportunity to make millions, and you do something this stupid??? Sure, this may not affect him much, but I mean... come on. at least try and help yourself out here.
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1- He still has the "boatload of talent" that he always had.
2- He still has the opportunity, no the guarantee, that he will make millions.
3- Do you consider drinking alcohol just as stupid? I hope so, with that kind of disdain & indignity.
4- Getting caught didn't help him. That is for certain.
Let's remember that if our government treated cannabis fairly in regards to it's risk/benefits then this would be a non-issue. As it's not an addictive substance, is almost completely non-toxic, and doesn't inebriate you so that you cannot perform basic functions. It's also not a performance enhancer that the league would otherwise be concerned about.
Our laws are the problem, not the hundreds of millions of Americans who smoke a harmless plant which grows all over the planet.
GARDENHEADsubscriber1. Let's put Skeet on suicide watch.
2. I don't care if he smoked weed. I care that he's in the process of a multi-million dollar interview & he knows he'll be peeing in a cup, and he STILL can't put down the drug. He's either stupid or addicted...and we all know marijuana isn't addictive.
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Phinz420New Member"GARDENHEAD wrote:
1. Let's put Skeet on suicide watch.
2. I don't care if he smoked weed. I care that he's in the process of a multi-million dollar interview & he knows he'll be peeing in a cup, and he STILL can't put down the drug. He's either stupid or addicted...and we all know marijuana isn't addictive.
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THC can remain in your system up to 30 days. So you would have to blame him for bad timing if anything. He probably could have gotten away with a Whizinator if he didn't plan on quitting at all, so logically it seems as if he just didnt make sure that he was 100% clean before the test.
I hope your final statement wasn't sarcastic. Because it's not a physically addictive substance. Your brain also has receptor cells designed specifically to catch THC, whether or not you utilize these brain cells is your own prerogative. :p
I bet this could be Harvin's reply in hearing you guys call him stupid.
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Just another example of the disdain todays athletes have for rules/laws. Talent, skill, speed, strength, etc should NOT be an excuse for thinking you are immune from the consequences of everyone else in our society. Why do it? It's a sad situation.
anlgpNew Member"Phinz420 wrote:
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1- He still has the "boatload of talent" that he always had.
2- He still has the opportunity, no the guarantee, that he will make millions.
3- Do you consider drinking alcohol just as stupid? I hope so, with that kind of disdain & indignity.
4- Getting caught didn't help him. That is for certain.
Let's remember that if our government treated cannabis fairly in regards to it's risk/benefits then this would be a non-issue. As it's not an addictive substance, is almost completely non-toxic, and doesn't inebriate you so that you cannot perform basic functions. It's also not a performance enhancer that the league would otherwise be concerned about.
Our laws are the problem, not the hundreds of millions of Americans who smoke a harmless plant which grows all over the planet.
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he's canadian. what do you think??
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brandon27subscriber"Phinz420 wrote:
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1- He still has the "boatload of talent" that he always had.
2- He still has the opportunity, no the guarantee, that he will make millions.
3- Do you consider drinking alcohol just as stupid? I hope so, with that kind of disdain & indignity.
4- Getting caught didn't help him. That is for certain.
Let's remember that if our government treated cannabis fairly in regards to it's risk/benefits then this would be a non-issue. As it's not an addictive substance, is almost completely non-toxic, and doesn't inebriate you so that you cannot perform basic functions. It's also not a performance enhancer that the league would otherwise be concerned about.
Our laws are the problem, not the hundreds of millions of Americans who smoke a harmless plant which grows all over the planet.
Im not denying he still has talent, but the point is how if he can't quit doing something like this prior to the biggest job interview(lets face it, that sums up the combine) of his life, then he's probably going to have problems down the road. Thats all im saying. It's just not a smart choice for the kid to be making prior to the NFL draft.
Im not getting into a debate with you on the pro's/con's of smoking pot, I couldn't care less about that. All I'm saying is, its not looked kindly upon by the NFL, look what it did for our boy Ricky Williams? Simply saying its a stupid choice for him to be making.
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he's canadian. what do you think??
hey now, don't be mad that we actually have real beer up here :lol: I love me some beer :up:
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MonstBlitzforum_veteranWhether you like or don't like the ganja, there's no arguing how stupid this is. I love beer, but you can bet your ass if the combine was coming up, and I was going to be putting on a show for potential employers, I would be drying out and not letting it have any affect on my chances at producing.
When somebody can't put a simple pleasure on hold during one of the most important times of their career, that is somebody we don't need in Miami. No chance the trifecta goes anywhere near this guy, IMO.
GARDENHEADsubscriber"Phinz420 wrote:
THC can remain in your system up to 30 days. So you would have to blame him for bad timing if anything. He probably could have gotten away with a Whizinator if he didn't plan on quitting at all, so logically it seems as if he just didnt make sure that he was 100% clean before the test.
I hope your final statement wasn't sarcastic. Because it's not a physically addictive substance. Your brain also has receptor cells designed specifically to catch THC, whether or not you utilize these brain cells is your own prerogative. :p
The timing IS the stupidity. Look, if the NFL made cinnamon a banned substance, all potential draftees should stay the heck away from cinnamon! It doesn't matter if their disdain for cinnamon is right or wrong. The rules are the rules and that is that.
My final statement was not sarcastic. I don't have "420" in my name, but I like to take part. My boss doesn't test me for any substances, but if he did, I'd stay away from whatever was on the banned list - even cinnamon.
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Larryfinfansubscriber"Phinz420 wrote:
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1- He still has the "boatload of talent" that he always had.
2- He still has the opportunity, no the guarantee, that he will make millions.
3- Do you consider drinking alcohol just as stupid? I hope so, with that kind of disdain & indignity.
4- Getting caught didn't help him. That is for certain.
Let's remember that if our government treated cannabis fairly in regards to it's risk/benefits then this would be a non-issue. As it's not an addictive substance, is almost completely non-toxic, and doesn't inebriate you so that you cannot perform basic functions. It's also not a performance enhancer that the league would otherwise be concerned about.
Our laws are the problem, not the hundreds of millions of Americans who smoke a harmless plant which grows all over the planet.
The risks/benefits of cannabis have nothing to do with fact that this guy is an idiot....The fact of the matter is two things:
One, it's still against the law to consume the herb, whether or not you or I or he agrees with it. Therefore, anyone getting ready to go into the NFL draft (if they are fortunate enough to have that much talent), should know that consuming the product will have a seriously adverse effect on his draftablity....Sure, he'll still make millions, but he could have made many millions more had he had some common sense to go with that talent. The fact that he tested positive speaks volumes about this guys character, when added to the other red flags that he has given off during his Florida days and before...
Two, as several other posters have said, he knew he was going to be tested, right down to the day that the test would be completed. If he had any guidance or any common sense he'd have known that it takes a period of time to get it out of the blood stream and he should have restrained for that period of time...shame on him and shame on his guidance group, whether that be his parent(s), other family or agent or college coaches.
Drinking alcohol is just as stupid if you let it interfere with your ability to earn a living. Whether that be the truck driver who drives drunk or the pro athlete who gets into a fight at a bar after drinking or shooting a hole in his leg or whatever. Yes, it's stupid and I have the same disdain and indignity for those who choose to take this path.
Getting caught...that's still not the point here...the point is he let it happen...not what he did...
"Larryfinfan wrote:
The risks/benefits of cannabis have nothing to do with fact that this guy is an idiot....The fact of the matter is two things:
One, it's still against the law to consume the herb, whether or not you or I agree with it. Therefore, anyone getting ready to go into the NFL draft (if they are fortunate enough to have that much talent), should know that consuming the product will have a seriously adverse effect on his draftablity....Sure, he'll still make millions, but he could have made many millions more had he had some common sense to go with that talent. The fact that he tested positive speaks volumes about this guys character, when added to the other red flags that he has given off during his Florida days and before...
Two, as several other posters have said, he knew he was going to be tested, right down to the day that the test would be completed. If he had any guidance or any common sense he'd have known that it takes a period of time to get it out of the blood stream and he should have restrained for that period of time...shame on him and shame on his guidance group, whether that be his parent(s), other family or agent or college coaches.Drinking alcohol is just as stupid if you let it interfere with your ability to earn a living. Whether that be the truck driver who drives drunk or the pro athlete who gets into a fight at a bar after drinking or shooting a hole in his leg or whatever. Yes, it's stupid and I have the same disdain and indignity for those who choose to take this path.
Getting caught...that's still not the point here...the point is he let it happen...not what he did...
Exactly. The arguement has nothing to do with cannabis, everything to do with a) against the law b) you can't play in the nfl if you get caught. When a front office spends millions on a draft choice, that person better dang well be on the field. To miss playing time due to something as insignificant as smoking weed is ridiculous.
Whether it's theoretically addictive or not, it does seem to have some sort of ability to impair NFL player's judgment. When they can't lay off the substance to protect their careers, by extension, their livelihood and families, that defines a destructive substance to me.
At minimum, displays lack of self control and discipline.
DOLFANMIKEluxury_box"DonShula84 wrote:
Maybe he's actually dumber than even his Wonderlic score would suggest.
You can only wonder what he'll be like with millions of dollars in his pocket. To test positive knowing 100% for certain you'd be tested at such a key time in your life contract wise, is just crazy.
What are the options? He was either too stupid, completely addicted, or too arrogant. None is a good sign and he just put some ammo into the thoughts out there that he has some issues.
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Skeet84New MemberI really don't see what the big deal is. He smoked alittle weed before he starts his NFL career. Alot of people smoke it and thats fine. If he wants to lose money thats ok, But he is going to the NFL now and I would rather him smoke it now than when he gets to the NFL. This guy will still be a 1st rd pick in the NFL and last year Aquib Talib said he smoked dope and I would take him on the phins.
MonstBlitzforum_veteran"Skeet84 wrote:
I really don't see what the big deal is. He smoked alittle weed before he starts his NFL career. Alot of people smoke it and thats fine. If he wants to lose money thats ok, But he is going to the NFL now and I would rather him smoke it now than when he gets to the NFL. This guy will still be a 1st rd pick in the NFL and last year Aquib Talib said he smoked dope and I would take him on the phins.
The big deal is doing it during a period when he is being evaluated for the NFL is worse than if he did it during his NFL career. If he's willing to sacrifice his chance at the NFL to smoke pot, what do you think he'll do once he has a contract and fistfulls of cash at his disposal? It will be an absolute nightmare. If you remove your biases and take an objective look at what this type of behavior indicates about his personality and future behaviors you'll see why most of us don't want this guy to be a Dolphin.
GARDENHEADsubscriber"Skeet84 wrote:
I really don't see what the big deal is. He smoked alittle weed before he starts his NFL career. Alot of people smoke it and thats fine. If he wants to lose money thats ok, But he is going to the NFL now and I would rather him smoke it now than when he gets to the NFL. This guy will still be a 1st rd pick in the NFL and last year Aquib Talib said he smoked dope and I would take him on the phins.
Do you seriously think he'll stop when he gets to the NFL?
Your avatar says you're a "Parcells guy"....
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Skeet84New Member"MonstBlitz wrote:
The big deal is doing it during a period when he is being evaluated for the NFL is worse than if he did it during his NFL career. If he's willing to sacrifice his chance at the NFL to smoke pot, what do you think he'll do once he has a contract and fistfulls of cash at his disposal? It will be an absolute nightmare. If you remove your biases and take an objective look at what this type of behavior indicates about his personality and future behaviors you'll see why most of us don't want this guy to be a Dolphin.
If he smokes pot he is letting no one but his agent down rather than if he does it when he gets to the NFL he lets his team down so yeah I think I would much rather him to do it now rather than when he is in the NFL. He is not sacrificing his chance in the NFL. You think he won't be drafted now? haha He will probably be drafted in the 1st or early 2nd at worse, I would have taken Aquib Talib last year at 25 so there is no bias here. Just because I am a Gator fan does not mean I can't have an opinion. I don't care if every person in this site does not want him on the team. I think he would be an upgrade at WR and I know he would help this team alot!!!!
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Do you seriously think he'll stop when he gets to the NFL?
Your avatar says you're a "Parcells guy"....
Yeah Pot is not addicting and you can stop when ever you want. Ummm we have Ricky Williams on our team and if he can stop than I think Percy can stop.
I did not put that in my Avy. I don't know how it got there
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