General College Football Thread

Figures the last year before a playoff is instilled, there will most likely be just 2 undefeated teams remaining, both #1 and #2.

/still happy there's a playoff tho

I'm not sold on osu beating mich st...

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Highly doubt Ohio State moved up on the rankings.

My guess is Florida State is at 1, Auburn at 2, Ohio State at 3, Missouri at 4, then Alabama.

If Auburn loses to Missouri in the SEC title game I'm still not sure Ohio State gets the ranking necessary, Missouri will get the nod in my opinion. That's the benefit of being in the SEC/ACC..

Nope. Ohio State beats Michigan State and they are pretty much in, that's a damn good win if they can pull it off.

MSU has one loss at Notre Dame a game in wich they lost their starting QB. Other than that they have dominated the majority of their opponents.

Ohio State is already #2 in the BCS (ESPN projections) so how would it make sense to drop them if they beat their toughest opponent yet?? It wouldn't win and their in.

Bama's kicker is getting death threats. You stay classy Alabama.

We'll see the true projections later today but I think Auburn is #2 at the very least behind FSU. No way they only moved up 1 when OSU barely beat an unranked team.

I could see something lame like:

1) FSU
2) OSU
3) Auburn
4) Alabama
5) Missouri

I know it -shouldnt- be that way, but this is the BCS,

Really hope Auburn gets to #2 by the end of this. They deserve it. Hell, Alabama deserves it. If Ohio State gets the nod, I'll enjoy watching them get trounced by the Noles.

I watched the Iron Bowl in Alabama yesterday. Lots of hootin' and hollerin' after that one.

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"Muck wrote:

Really hope Auburn gets to #2 by the end of this. They deserve it. Hell, Alabama deserves it. If Ohio State gets the nod, I'll enjoy watching them get trounced by the Noles.

I watched the Iron Bowl in Alabama yesterday. Lots of hootin' and hollerin' after that one.

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Ohio State hasn't lost a football game in 2 seasons, have one of the 2-3 best head coaches in CFB, a QB/RB duo who will both receive Heisman votes....

I realize they are a team others love to hate, but if they beat MSU? It's a no brainer.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Ohio State hasn't lost a football game in 2 seasons, have one of the 2-3 best head coaches in CFB, a QB/RB duo who will both receive Heisman votes....

I realize they are a team others love to hate, but if they beat MSU? It's a no brainer.

I kind of agree but I'm not sure OSU is the second best team. The question is if a one loss team should ever get in over an undefeated. Remember Auburn still plays Missouri as well which is another huge win.

I do yhink an undefeated should get in over a one loss unless they beat absolutely noone.

"Alex44 wrote:

I kind of agree but I'm not sure OSU is the second best team. The question is if a one loss team should ever get in over an undefeated. Remember Auburn still plays Missouri as well which is another huge win.

I do yhink an undefeated should get in over a one loss unless they beat absolutely noone.

Thankfully this won't be an issue next season. OSU definitely isn't the second best team but they're undefeated so you can't really leave them out of the title game. They'll likely get trounced by FSU.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Ohio State hasn't lost a football game in 2 seasons, have one of the 2-3 best head coaches in CFB, a QB/RB duo who will both receive Heisman votes....

I realize they are a team others love to hate, but if they beat MSU? It's a no brainer.

I'm one of those who doesn't really respect the Bucks schedule. That's my beef. Kind of like Boise State a few years ago. I don't think they've earned it like Auburn or Alabama. They've feasted largely on cupcakes in my view.

And yeah, I have a lot of obnoxious OSU friends who hate on the SEC (and I'm an SEC honk) so there is that adversarial relationship. ;)

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To be fair the SEC was pretty weak this season aside from its top teams. Florida was terrible, Georgia? Vanderbilt? LSU is down.

I can't say a one loss SEC team deserves it over an undefeated.

"Muck wrote:

I'm one of those who doesn't really respect the Bucks schedule. That's my beef. Kind of like Boise State a few years ago. I don't think they've earned it like Auburn or Alabama. They've feasted largely on cupcakes in my view.

And yeah, I have a lot of obnoxious OSU friends who hate on the SEC (and I'm an SEC honk) so there is that adversarial relationship. ;)

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If they can beat A very good Michigan State team I think that proves they belong. That's a FG game either way IMO.

"Alex44 wrote:

To be fair the SEC was pretty weak this season aside from its top teams. Florida was terrible, Georgia? Vanderbilt? LSU is down.

I can't say a one loss SEC team deserves it over an undefeated.

And what about the Big 10? Soft serve IMO. The SEC still has three teams in the Top 5. Georgia was tough before injuries. LSU is still pretty good. Even a defenseless A&M nearly beat Bama. I think it was down 'defensively', with a lot of guys going to the NFL.

Bama's lone loss comes on a rare, improbable last-second return. Against an elite rival, on the road. I'm just not overwhelmed by close wins over Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Michigan State should challenge. Good defense.

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"Muck wrote:

And what about the Big 10? Soft serve IMO. The SEC still has three teams in the Top 5. Georgia was tough before injuries. LSU is still pretty good. Even a defenseless A&M nearly beat Bama. I think it was down 'defensively', with a lot of guys going to the NFL.

Bama's lone loss comes on a rare, improbable last-second return. Against an elite rival, on the road. I'm just not overwhelmed by close wins over Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Michigan State should challenge. Good defense.

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Don't get me wrong I don't disagree. I feel like leaving out the SEC winner OR OSU is sad.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Ohio State hasn't lost a football game in 2 seasons, have one of the 2-3 best head coaches in CFB, a QB/RB duo who will both receive Heisman votes....

I realize they are a team others love to hate, but if they beat MSU? It's a no brainer.

Comes down to competition, bro. There have been times in years (decades?) past that OSU deserved a high ranking. Nothing to do with love/hate. But, They don't have strong competition in the Big 10 like they do in the SEC.

As it is, it is almost a given that the rankings will be: 1) FSU; 2) OSU; 3) AU; 4) AL; 5) MO.

Auburn will get closer to OSU because of the win against Bama and if they beat Missouri in the SEC title game (not a given, btw) they will move even closer. But, OSU will get enough of a bounce with a win against MSU to put them in the title game.

That does not mean they belong in the title game or are one of the two best teams. They might possibly be so, but going undefeated against Big 10 competition hasn't proven that. And the way they have played - I don't see it. I think Alabama would beat them soundly. And, I think FSU will also.

But, the reality is, all this is a mess because the BCS is a disaster, even when it lucks out and gets it right.

The Four-team playoffs can't come soon enough but, even then, the 8 team route is the best. There are going to be plenty of 5th ranked teams that could easily be a top 4 candidate.

"Muck wrote:

And what about the Big 10? Soft serve IMO. The SEC still has three teams in the Top 5. Georgia was tough before injuries. LSU is still pretty good. Even a defenseless A&M nearly beat Bama. I think it was down 'defensively', with a lot of guys going to the NFL.

Bama's lone loss comes on a rare, improbable last-second return. Against an elite rival, on the road. I'm just not overwhelmed by close wins over Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Michigan State should challenge. Good defense.

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Nothing against OSU, but I hope Mich St. wins just so that AU (if they win out) can be in the title game. Even though I think Bama is the better team (on a neutral field I think they'd have won that AU game - it was a series of flukey plays - basically came down to an OL raising his back about two inches for a split second before a snap). Of course, one of the truly great games in CFB history - maybe the best in past decade.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

Nothing against OSU, but I hope Mich St. wins just so that AU (if they win out) can be in the title game. Even though I think Bama is the better team (on a neutral field I think they'd have won that AU game - it was a series of flukey plays - basically came down to an OL raising his back about two inches for a split second before a snap). Of course, one of the truly great games in CFB history - maybe the best in past decade.

To be fair the 99 yard TD was a flukey play as well. That doesn't generally happen and was basically a prayer.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Ohio State hasn't lost a football game in 2 seasons, have one of the 2-3 best head coaches in CFB, a QB/RB duo who will both receive Heisman votes....

I realize they are a team others love to hate, but if they beat MSU? It's a no brainer.

And got there by doing what Urban does best, getting the easiest schedule possible. OSU has no business in the title game and would get destroyed by FSU anyways.

I will say they at least deserve a shot though via playoffs so it sucks that doesn't happen until next year.

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"Clipse wrote:

And got there by doing what Urban does best, getting the easiest schedule possible. OSU has no business in the title game and would get destroyed by FSU anyways.

I will say they at least deserve a shot though via playoffs so it sucks that doesn't happen until next year.

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Florida State SOS 42
Ohio State SOS 52

Not the biggest of disparity's.

They also blew out nearly every opponent including Clemson while OSU struggled vs several bad - mediocre teams.

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OSU number 2.

Even bigger is Michigan State at #10... It would take an Ohio State loss SEC fans.

OSU will need more then a flag from God this time around should they meet up with FSU in a title game.

"Den54 wrote:

OSU will need more then a flag from God this time around should they meet up with FSU in a title game.

Lol, tell the Canes and their gold teeth to stop holding.

And what makes you think Ohio State would have no chance? We have the better coach and a very good offense. IF it's those two teams, I'm guessing both teams near 40 points.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Florida State SOS 42
Ohio State SOS 52

Not the biggest of disparity's.

FSU hasn't trailed in a game since September. I think that has something to do with it. They also blew out a team that was at the time top 5 in Clemson.