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From Yahoo Sports...Dolphins picking WR Bryant or linebacker

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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  2. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Please, please don't draft Sergio Kindle.:pray:
     
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  3. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Fire Jeff Ireland if we do any of the following:

    1.) fail to draft a S of a LB at #12

    2.) Draft for the offense in the first 3 rounds

    3.) Fail to produce a top rated defense next year with all the tools to do so available this year.

    4.) Trade down at #12
     
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  4. princekong2

    princekong2 New Member

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    Dont Draft Kindle?!??!??!

    Have You Seen This
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qul0KgveR5k"]YouTube- DE/OLB Sergio Kindle Highlights/Lowlights 2009 Texas[/ame]

    Anyone who can embarress an offensive tackle like that is a monster to me
     
  5. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    I still say if the Giants don't trade up somehow to get McClain, he will be a Dolphin.
     
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  6. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lord knows we shouldn't wait to see if your perception comes close to matching reality, or what he gets in the draft, or anything like that. I really miss the days when our franchise operated like a whole lot of people were spending their big money checks on the most huffable brands of model glue.
     
  7. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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  8. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I agree 100%. In a defensive draft like this you pick from the defensive tree, especially if you need to fill those positions anyway. This is truly a no brainer. Ireland would have to be a football idiot to draft an offensive player in the first few rounds.
     
  9. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Earl Thomas and Berry are the only safeties worth a #12 pick. I dont see any LB worth taking that high, though E Griffen is the closest thing to it. If we have a top rated anything it'll be a top rated offense, we are only a player or two away. On defense we need several players, too many to add in one offseason.
     
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  10. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Kindle will be a monster for us if used correctly. He needs to be moved around to exploit matchup opportunities the way he was two years ago. He will be much better as a lb than a de
     
  11. DHPVW

    DHPVW DuB addict

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    I think Kindle could do a lot for our defense. Nobody in the draft is ever gonna be a guarantee, if Bryant and Thomas are gone he would be my next choice. Especially since we seem to be hand delivering JT to the Jest
     
  12. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I'd say the opposite. If the draft is deep on defense, then you can afford to wait and still get good OLB, S, NTs in the mid rounds.
     
  13. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Sergio Kindle is CAM WAKE. Primarily a pass rusher, cant drop in coverage or play the run well, only a fit as a WOLB. In case you hadnt noticed we've got 91 and 56 playing weak side. Kindle is no better than Wake and Anderson, he'd cost 3-4 times as much as they do, eat up a roster spot, take years to learn the OLB position, and generally be a waste of a pick. Just say no.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    He can't play the run well?
     
  15. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Good pick, if you're picking in the latter part of the first......not at #12
     
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  16. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    "This guy is going to be the pillar of our defense"

    Fast forward to draft day

    "....The Miami Dolphins select Jake Long."

    Dont believe everything you hear.


    If Bryant is the BPA you have to take him.
     
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  17. I MiZFiT I

    I MiZFiT I The Young And The Bestest

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    How in the hell do you expect a top rated defense this season???

    No FS. One good LB in Dansby. No NT.

    The only upside on the defense is DE and CB.
     
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  18. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=- Club Member

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    WOW REALLY?!? Dez Bryant or a LB?!? How'd they figure that? They must have really done the math for this one. Wonder if they were wearing lab coats and the whole shebang...


    ...talk about a break-through discovery. No one would have expected this! Good Job, Mr. Miller!
     
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  19. GMJohnson

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    I think he has the speed/quickess to chase plays down from the backside or elude blockers and make an occasional TFL. But when the ball is run directly at him he struggles to hold the edge and get off blocks. It doesnt show up much on film b/c Texas was normally well ahead/playing overmatched teams, but in the instances where an OT got his hands on Kindle that was usually the end of the story.

    I think Kindle would be a good fit for a team like the Jets, who lack a speed-edge rusher. But Cam Wake is our neighborhood speed rusher and Kindle would be more of the same IMO. I'd rather draft a guy like Griffen, Misi, or Worilds. Guys who can play strong side, set the edge, and be a compliment to Wake/Anderson. We played last year with 4 WOLB (JP,JT,Wake,Anderson) and 1 SOLB (Moses), I dont want to repeat that mistake again. Everyone blames Soliai for the dropoff in run D after Ferg went down, but not having Matt Roth to force plays back inside was just as big a problem IMO.
     
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  20. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

    Give that man a gold star! :up:

    Look, when you start putting need ahead of value, you're reaching. And, on a team with as many needs as we have, you really don't need to do that. Set your board based on how you value all the players available, and at every position of need. Then select the BPA...period. Trade up and trade back as needed. It's that simple. And, if you don't believe me, just look at the Patsies. Love 'em or hate 'em, they know how to draft.

    Bottom line, the Dolphins aren't going to improve the team with just the #12 pick. Or, with just the first three picks. They're going to improve the team with a solid draft, hitting as many prospects as possible. To suggest that if they take Bryant at #12 they're making a huge mistake is, well...foolish IMO. Keep in mind...the best defense is a great offense. Am I advocating taking Bryant with the first overall pick? No, not necessarily. But, if it's who they value the most, and it also fills a need, then I say why not?

    Let me ask you all a question...how pumped would we ALL be if our offense could light up a score board like Indy and New Orleans? Think on that for a minute. If we had an offense that could either grind it out via a power running game, or strike fast with a big play passing game, how potent would that be?
     
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  21. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Even more reason to draft all defense. After an off season with Henne our offense will be solid. For the moment more offense is a luxury - drafting all defense is a necessity. This is the main reason why we have done more with the defense during the off season that anything else.
     
  22. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    You could look at it that way too, depending on who gets picked ahead of us.
     
  23. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    All I know is that Earl Thomas is my guy. Ill cry if we take Kindle. Seriously .
     
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  24. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    If we don't draft a player in this draft, so help me...


    :foundout:
     
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  25. CaribPhin

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    Hold it. The Sheriff is in town. Sergio Kindle SUCKS......at 12 overall. He made an impact in college because he overpowered the players. Playing among men he's gonna have to be faster than his 4.65 40 to make the immediate impact that people want him to have. I'm just afraid of having him on the outside trying to make a play on CJ2k. I think one of the biggest problems with our Defense last year was a lack of speed. I don't think Sergio would be much of a major impact given his speed. Then again I'm not an expert. Ask MUCK.
     
  26. princekong2

    princekong2 New Member

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    Looks Like the Logical Person to Be available for us to Pick Up at #12 is Earl Thomas i think everyone will be very satisfied with it

    If You Agree With Me Say YEAH! :up:
     
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  27. I MiZFiT I

    I MiZFiT I The Young And The Bestest

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    WORD!
    :knucks:
     
  28. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I see your point, but I have to disagree. You cant be good/strong in every area, free agency and the salary cap put to end to that strategy. I think in order to win in the NFL you dont have to be good on both sides of the ball as much as you need to be GREAT on one side or the other. Our side is offense, we've invested heavily there and we're only a couple players away from greatness. I say we get a great offense and then do what we can to help the defense.
     
  29. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I second that motion. :knucks:
     
  30. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Defense doesn't win games in today's NFL. An explosive passing attack does. Dominant defenses still get eaten alive by teams like the Colts and Jets. And a few rookie additions won't make our defense dominant. The rules have changed. Draft philosophy needs to change with it.
     
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  31. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    sounds like the marino years when we could put up 35 and still lose by 7
    perhaps we shouldnt field a defense at all and let the opponent score at will
    just to get the high powered offense back on the field to hope we win the shootout :wink2:

    you still have to stop someone and build a defense
    just as important in this offense driven league
     
  32. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    Oh, but wait, they could take a FS as well ?? Or they could take a NT... Or they could take a G... Or....the list is endless....

    Seriously, Mando could have written a better article....
     
  33. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    You didn't just say that? Did you? :tantrum:


    :lol:
     
  34. PerfectTeam

    PerfectTeam Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I write better articles than this on toilet paper. I mean had he said something like the dolphins thinking very hard at taking Mike Iupati or something at least thats different rather than this regurgitated mess.
     
  35. #1dolphinsfan

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    Dez would be a great pick
     
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  36. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    the amount of people that hate Sergio Kindle becoming a Dolphin reminds me of last year with Vontae Davis. Just makes me want him even more :lol:
     
  37. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Another mancrush Adamp?


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUiTQvT0W_0"]YouTube- Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U[/ame]


    Jermaine Gresham or ET or Derrick Morgan

    FWIW, merely dumping G Wilson will improve the Defense, toss in more dynamic Lb's in Wake and whomever we draft or even a holdover...
     
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  38. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I'm having an affair this year..:lol: Psss Dont let Jerry Hughes know :lol:
     
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  39. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I think he means the Colts vs. Jets AFC Title game. Great O vs Great D, Great O wins...
     
  40. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    OLB Whore....:hump:
     
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