Free Agency Thread? Free Agency Thread.

Based on the fact that I think Martin is a talented player, hard worker, and fits the scheme. No reason he shouldn't be a serviceable starter.

 

Even if they do those contracts, you're still talking about a lot of money not being spent.

 

Or they want to carry over the saved cap till next year.

 

Right, but if you keep carrying the cap over, at some point it will constitute a pattern. This has happened for many years now.

 

I'm not declaring victory. The simple law of averages dictates that Jon Martin very well could become a bust. I'm just saying that the team needs to operate under the assumption that guys like Jon Martin will develop. He's no different than Ryan Tannehill.

 

No, he didn't show as much promise as Tannehill. But he doesn't need to. You don't need a top-10 LT. You do need a top-10 QB. I think that Ryan Tannehill will improve simply because of experience. I expect the same out of Martin.

 

Then we have an average offensive line. I can live with that. You can't?

 

CK - at the time he was drafted, did you like the Jon Martin selection? You can't really hold it against Ireland if he's going into next year assuming Martin is playing one of the starting tackle positions. The guy had some rough patches last year but showed a couple of positives, and he still has that massive potential, the same potential that got him drafted, the same potential that many people felt Miami got with a later pick than he should have gone.

You're acting as if Martin is a bust already, and it's just as silly to me as declaring him a success. Still way too early.

 

The fins don't have 20 million under the cap to spend. Now, if you're talking 1 year deals than sure they have plenty of wiggle room but the way they structured their contracts they can't be giving out anymore lucrative, multi year deals. The dolphins have hardly been cheap. You can say they've been stupid over the years but not cheap.

 

This is going "out there," but another possibility is that he could be waiting for teams with RFAs to spend their money first, so that we can offer contracts that the host team can't match. Sam Shields would be a great target.

 

Well, they technically have over 20 million left this year, but you're taking out rookies and emergency money for the season. If you carry over this money to next year, then you can use that rolloever towards the increase in players cap numbers like Mike Wallace and Wheeler alone.

 

Its possible. I'm not saying I think they'll end up with a lot of money left. But if they do, then that would be a significant event IMO.

 

This might be the best catchphrase since El Jeffe.

 

It doesn't even make sense

 

C'mon man. I'm not just making stuff up. That is a very negative stance.

You still haven't explained how an average offensive line would not be made up of average offensive line talent and also be bad a bad thing.

 

4 average players make a below average line..and I'm the one.."substituting a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version"? So does a line made up of below average players equal Super Below average or is it cyclical and they make a great line?

Ok, fine, you win...."average" means "below average."

 

You say it won't doom our season but isn't the whole point of the off season to try to get the best possible team for us on the field come opening day?

 

That is not doom and gloom, nor sky is falling. It's questioning our philosophy.

When Ck says Ireland should be fired, we're going to be 1-15, throw the season away, fire the whole lot. <<<< That is doom and gloom and sky is falling.

 

Yes, but not at any cost and not every player available at a given position is the right fit.

Winston may fit from a talent standpoint, but he may not from a cost standpoint.

 

Does every thread have to turn into a pissing match? Agree to disagree, and move on.

 

I just want to say, I don't think defensive end is a need. Although we could use a nickel pass rusher.

I think Tight End is a need, though. We need a Tight End like Travis Kelce.

 

those 3 units are pretty damn important. You could argue they're the most critical components of a team, behind QB of course.

 

Right tackle, the 2nd defensive end and a corner back are the most important parts of a team after QB?

 

what other positions would you rank higher in this era of football? You need to protect your QB so he can pass the ball, and you need to pressure the opposing QB and defend his receivers. I guess receiver is up there as well

 

Left tackle is waaaaaay more important than right.
Your main DE is waaaaaay more important than your 2nd DE.
Safeties are waaaaaay more important than CBs.

 

Not all of the NFL disagrees. Walsh believed S was more important and I would guess that several of his tree agree.

 

I see what you're saying, and I see what he's saying, he is talking about the units as a whole, you are talking about individual positions. So that's where the disconnect is coming from.

 

And draft position?

 

Schefter reporting we're intersted in Freeney?

My source ...https://www.facebook.com/ThePhinstones/posts/553093454735426

 

I've edited

I think you're overestimating our holes, we have some areas to improve but our ONLY glaring hole is OT.

 

I remember reading about Vaughn Martin 4 years ago when many of you advocated for him. He went to school in Canada (Western Ontario) and many of you considered him a sleeper. Ironic Miami would be visiting with him today per rotoworld.com.