Four new player-safety rules adopted at NFL meeting

Well, actually my thoughts are the same as yours.........
what's next?..

...in other news today the NFL has added another "F" to its name, becoming the National Flag Football League.

I'm seeing a whole lot of complaints about softening up the game by people not actually playing special teams in professional football.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I'm seeing a whole lot of complaints about softening up the game by people not actually playing special teams in professional football.

So your point is, because we don't play pro ball, shut up? Dude, last time I check we are still allowed to have opinions, beside, by what you’re saying, almost every thread on this web site should be closed because how can we complain about a trade, and none of us are part of the front office, so on and so on

i think it has alot to do with the nfl and protecting its butt from lawsuits in the future.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I'm seeing a whole lot of complaints about softening up the game by people not actually playing special teams in professional football.

We have people here who have played HS, college, and other levels of football so their opinions would surely be valuable. However, opinions can go either way and I'm sure this won't be the last rule made to protect the players. I just wished Danny played in this day and age.

so how are teams supposed to get onside kicks? spread everyone out and then pick which of your guys you want to get slaughtered?

and no wedge? wtf? whats wrong with having a convoy? these changes are just dumb.

"gi§h® wrote:

so how are teams supposed to get onside kicks? spread everyone out and then pick which of your guys you want to get slaughtered?

and no wedge? wtf? whats wrong with having a convoy? these changes are just dumb.

sounds to me like theyre minimizing the impact of ST.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

So your point is, because we don't play pro ball, shut up? Dude, last time I check we are still allowed to have opinions, beside, by what you’re saying, almost every thread on this web site should be closed because how can we complain about a trade, and none of us are part of the front office, so on and so on

No, I think what he is saying is that the rule is justified because we don't want to see any more Everette incidences. There was another similar neck injury last year on special teams with a player trying to break through the wedge.

In the event that it does happen, we have a dedicated thread here wishing any injured player well, and a recovery of any sorts, and hopefully no paralysis. And each thread has hundreds of posts. We care for their safety, why shouldn't the NFL?

So, why not avoid such injuries if possible? Plus, guess what happens to a special teams player that tries to avoid the wedge because he is conscience of his well being? Yup, he ends up playing arena football or in the CFL.

If, in your opinion, you don't mind players risking their ability to walk, something you take for granted every day, then hey, that is your prerogative.

in all of sports, there is no more barbaric play than kick-offs. its worse than boxing, mma, you name it. its where almost ALL paralysis and neck injuries occur. downs 1-4, leave the game alone, but it wouldn't shock me if they did something about kick-offs.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

So your point is, because we don't play pro ball, shut up? Dude, last time I check we are still allowed to have opinions, beside, by what you’re saying, almost every thread on this web site should be closed because how can we complain about a trade, and none of us are part of the front office, so on and so on

no, i think all he was saying is exactly what Seth was saying, kick offs are brutal, to brutal, and something needed to be done.

glad thier trying :up:

"FinSane wrote:

i think it has alot to do with the nfl and protecting its butt from lawsuits in the future.

That's the cynical view. Another view might be that the NFL actually wants to protect the players.

"Tone_E wrote:

No, I think what he is saying is that the rule is justified because we don't want to see any more Everette incidences. There was another similar neck injury last year on special teams with a player trying to break through the wedge.

In the event that it does happen, we have a dedicated thread here wishing any injured player well, and a recovery of any sorts, and hopefully no paralysis. And each thread has hundreds of posts. We care for their safety, why shouldn't the NFL?

So, why not avoid such injuries if possible? Plus, guess what happens to a special teams player that tries to avoid the wedge because he is conscience of his well being? Yup, he ends up playing arena football or in the CFL.

If, in your opinion, you don't mind players risking their ability to walk, something you take for granted every day, then hey, that is your prerogative.

I can see your point, but to try and minimize my opinion by saying that I don’t care about people getting injured, first, I along have risk far more for far less money. Second, I have put my self in the line of fire to protect other Soldiers. I know risk, so do the players. It’s what we choose to do. If you don’t want the risk, you don’t have to do it. And yes, that’s my prerogative.

"nappy roots wrote:

no, i think all he was saying is exactly what Seth was saying, kick offs are brutal, to brutal, and something needed to be done.

glad thier trying :up:

I disagree, this is Football (well use to be) not baseball. It is part of the sport.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

So your point is, because we don't play pro ball, shut up? Dude, last time I check we are still allowed to have opinions, beside, by what you’re saying, almost every thread on this web site should be closed because how can we complain about a trade, and none of us are part of the front office, so on and so on

No, that's not what I'm saying, and I don't see how you can suggest that. Trying to suggest I don't think we should discuss ANYTHING here is ridiculous.

I'm saying that because you don't play pro football, you've got no grounding to allude to the toughness of the game changing, or if this is a justified rule or not.
You've got A). No physical experience in terms of doing it yourself, and B). No actual data on whether or not there is a safety issue on the rule.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

I disagree, this is Football (well use to be) not baseball. It is part of the sport.

it used to be football to play in leather helmets to....
it used to be baseball to not wear helmets to....

"Disgustipate wrote:

No, that's not what I'm saying, and I don't see how you can suggest that. Trying to suggest I don't think we should discuss ANYTHING here is ridiculous.

I'm saying that because you don't play pro football, you've got no grounding to allude to the toughness of the game changing, or if this is a justified rule or not.
You've got A). No physical experience in terms of doing it yourself, and B). No actual data on whether or not there is a safety issue on the rule.

Again, by your argument, then why discuss trades or draft picks? A.) we have no front office experience in terms of football operations. B.) We have no real scouting or personal data.

It can be argueed either way, just saying i don't like the changes, if you do great.

"nappy roots wrote:

it used to be football to play in leather helmets to....
it used to be baseball to not wear helmets to....

two different issues IMO

was just thinking, some of you guys must hate Boxing......

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

I can see your point, but to try and minimize my opinion by saying that I don’t care about people getting injured, first, I along have risk far more for far less money. Second, I have put my self in the line of fire to protect other Soldiers. I know risk, so do the players. It’s what we choose to do. If you don’t want the risk, you don’t have to do it. And yes, that’s my prerogative.

Fair enough and I never meant to insinuate that you don't care about their safety. Also didn't notice you were or are still in the service. You know the risks, and take them, and so do the players.

But, I'm sure if you could've avoided an unnecessary firefight, you did, for the safety of your company.

I think that is all that the NFL is trying to do. The thing is, in your line of work, and in the scope of this new rule (special team wedges), injuries suffered are usually severe. There are rarely any minor injuries, always concussions, or worse, neck injuries.

I think they are protecting the players' heads with all the new rules, and I can't say that I oppose them. As the players get stronger and faster, the game becomes faster, the hits more fierce. I am disappointed to a certain degree, we all like to see the hits, no denying. That's why I watch the first 20 laps of a NASCAR race, the crashes. We're only human.

However, let me apologize in advance if I’ve offended you, I didn't mean to do so.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

was just thinking, some of you guys must hate Boxing......

pro boxing is on the verge of extinction, and the way its been the past 10 years...good riddance.

"USArmyFinFan wrote:

I can see your point, but to try and minimize my opinion by saying that I don’t care about people getting injured, first, I along have risk far more for far less money. Second, I have put my self in the line of fire to protect other Soldiers. I know risk, so do the players. It’s what we choose to do. If you don’t want the risk, you don’t have to do it. And yes, that’s my prerogative.

Thank you for fighting for me and my family. It does not go unappreciated. When we press our palms together at night, you and your brothers in arms are and will forever be in our prayers.

Also, I wholeheartedly agree with you. My first thought after reading this thread was, "This is the business we've chosen." The modern day gladiators on the gridiron have been given a gift. That gift comes with substantial risk as well as reward. I would trade places in a heartbeat with any of those men obliterating wedges without concern or consideration for their bodies if given the opportunity to make my living at a game I've cherished since before I could walk.

No one, not even the most hated of rivals, wants to see another man injured out there. How safe can we ever be in life, though? I might perish tomorrow in an automobile accident, seatbelt and all, never knowing the thrill of a stadium trembling and crowd roaring as I emerge from an NFL tunnel.

"Tone_E wrote:

But, I'm sure if you could've avoided an unnecessary firefight, you did, for the safety of your company.

Honestly brother, I am a medic, I follow them were ever they go.

However, let me apologize in advance if I’ve offended you, I didn't mean to do so.

Not at all brother, just two Dolphins fans shooten the ....well you knwo what I mean. All in good spirit.

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

pro boxing is on the verge of extinction, and the way its been the past 10 years...good riddance.

Agreed, never cared for the sport myself honestly....