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For Sect: Anderson v Moses..you make the call

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Sep 6, 2010.

Q moses or Charlie Anderson, who looked like a player?

Poll closed Sep 13, 2010.
  1. Charlie Anderson

    19 vote(s)
    35.2%
  2. Q Moses

    17 vote(s)
    31.5%
  3. Neither was very good.

    18 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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  2. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I preferred Anderson
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This poll is out of order, YOUR OUT OF ORDER!!, THE WHOLE DAMN BOARD IS OUT OF ORDER!!...

    lol...sorry, I just had a dog day afternoon flashback..

    If you click on anything but the man Moses, your gonna smoke a turd in hell.

    What most are failing to understand, is that this dude has earned it...

    Imo, you can trust Moses setting the edge and, I have seen flashes of athleticism in space that excited me...like the player, always have, and if cutting some player for him to get more reps had to happen, than iam all about it..
     
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  4. B.Sebo

    B.Sebo TV Mastermind Club Member

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    Moses and it is not even close. Anderson was an okay player, but he had leveled off while Moses is still ascending.
     
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  5. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    I betcha he'll be declared inactive for gamedays unless there's an injury. Bobby Carpenter will be a coverage ILB and a special teams guy, he'll be active.
     
  6. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Ill give you Sections answer.................




    LeBron James.
     
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  7. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    There were times this preseason when Q gave offenses more fitz than an Irish phone book. He showed some real intensity and played like he wanted to be out there. Granted it wasn't against 1st teamers, but he was dominant enough at times for me to believe he could be effective off the bench if needed.
     
  8. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Wasn't that "...And Justice For All" ?
     
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  9. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Anderson's salary = 2.2 million. Nuff said.
     
  10. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    I'm going to miss Charlie, but the highlights do show a lot. He was pretty ineffective for the most part. Sounds like another LB we have who's first name starts with a C.

    ZING
     
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  11. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    if they both made the same amount of money...this FO would have cut Moses.
     
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  12. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    i say anderson was better but just my personal preference
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Depends on what you need. The Dolphins need a Moses. They don't need an Anderson.

    I never really tracked Bobby Carpenter in Dallas and I don't know what he brings to the table. I hear he's good in coverage, bad against the run, and a good special teams guy.

    If that's the case they probably just feel like Carpenter > Anderson and that's all there is to it. It's not a question of Moses vs. Anderson because they're different kinds of players, one is ketchup and the other is mustard. The Dolphins replaced Anderson's mustard with Carpenter's mustard. They weren't about to replace Moses' ketchup with Carpenter's mustard.

    I know this. When I looked at Moses' tape and put together that video, I was pleasantly surprised. When I looked at Anderson's tape and put together his video, I wanted to bash my head against a brick wall. That's just a straight up first impression from a guy that sifted through hours of tape of one guy and then hours of tape of another.

    This preseason only confirmed that. Moses was giving the Tampa and Dallas second/third string offenses a real hard time.
     
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  14. padre31

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    Ck,

    How much do you think Edds injury led them to sign Carpenter?
     
  15. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    i was thinking the same thing.
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yup,Your right D....
     
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  17. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    It's as simple as, if A.J. Edds were still here, Bobby Carpenter would not be here.

    When Edds got hurt, I said it then, the #2 cover LB on the team became either Channing Crowder or Charlie Anderson. I think more highly of Crowder's coverage than most. I think he's instinctive but not athletic enough to do heavy lifting, least not the way you'd have a Dansby doing the heavy lifting. Good complementary cover LB.

    Anderson is athletic and fluid enough to be a bonafied cover LB but he's an outside guy, came from a rushing the passer setting in college and he's been in that role since he got to Miami. It's bass ackward. If your #2 or #3 cover LB is a 3-4 OLB then that might be an issue because when the Dolphins go nickel they're having their cover LBs come onto the field in ILB roles, not OLB roles.

    The Dolphins were just rectifying that a little bit and I don't blame them.

    Much more upset about, in order of upsetness:

    1. Putting Will Allen on Injured Reserve
    2. Cutting David Martin, letting him go to a division rival
    3. Playing the starters as long as they did versus Dallas, with Jake Long's injury the result
    4. Cutting Marques Douglas
    5. Cutting Nate Ness and losing him to Seattle
    6. Faux-benching Koa Misi for Ikaika Alama-Francis
    7. Cutting Charles Grant (never envisioned I'd be upset about that when he signed)
    8. Faux-benching Sean Smith for Jason Allen

    I'm probably forgetting something.
     
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  18. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Agree, my only question is whether or not the coverage scheme is similar to what Carpenter already knows, that and Carpenter is not known as a passable blitzer.


    -With Dmart and Allen, that is strictly a judgment call based on their injuries.

    -Nate Ness was toasted as often as Nolan Carrol but one can return kicks.

    -Douglas especially, Sparano is taking a huge risk that Odrick will play at high level from Game #1, don't agree but it is what it is.

    -Ikaika over Misi makes sense to my view, but still I expect Q will play most of the snaps.

    -Allen over Smith, well, to me they both give up long plays to often, but Allen does other things better such as run support and creates turnovers.
     
  19. NJFINSFAN1

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    Anderson had a better preseason, its all about money me thinks!
     
  20. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think I can see what they were thinking NJ:

    With the SparanoPhins, you either Start, or push for Starting time, or they will not drop the cash on your contract, which means Jake Grove is on the hot seat.

    Anderson was the #4 OLB and they just were not going to pay him 2.2 million for that role. I think that is what did Grant and Douglas in as well, Depth guys have to at least have the potential to Start, if not they go younger and cheaper.

    Sparano stated that this waiver period is looked at as "another draft" and they guys they picked up were equivalent to extra 7th round picks.
     
  21. ToddsPhins

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    Thanks for taking the time to compile the videos Chris. :up:

    PS: I haven't had lunch yet, so turning our defense into condiments is only making me hungry.
     
  22. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That was from And Justice for All, not Dog Day Afternoon. :sad:
     
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  23. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    I've been saying that I think we're going to see a lot more of Moses this year than maybe previously thought. I think he can be a solid player. He's got good size and strength and I just have a gut feeling that he's going to have a real solid year.
     
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  24. PHINANALYST

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    i think this decision was simply that Anderson couldn't contribute in the middle ... that made him expendable ... regarding Q, we still don't have a legitimate SOLB -- Misi is too light, Ike is new to the position, so he has 'value' at a needed position.

    agreed on the Carpenter deal .... Edds injury and Anderson's inability to fill the void necessitated that move ....

    my question is ... who is the back-up WOLB ?? Misi, Carpenter .... Crowder .... which one of these is going to get pressure if anything happens to Wake ?? We know Crowder won't, Carpenter doesn't carry a good history either ... this worries me and brings me back to Misi .... OLB is still far from solved ......
     
  25. padre31

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    Misi is the back up Will i'd think.

    Two SOLB's Ike and Q
    Two Will's Wake and Misi

    4 ILB's, Crowder, Dobbins, Dansby, Johnson.
     
  26. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Let me help you out on that.

    The Cowboys are like my adopted second team since my best friend is a huge Cowboys fan and I watch all their games and talk cowboys football with him. I trust his opinion.

    . Bobby Carpenter is very good in coverage.

    . Saying he is a "great special teamer" is cliche talk for "He can't start in the NFL."

    . He doesn't thump, and is the least physical player on every field he steps on.

    . Really athletic.

    . Really flashed all the time in preseason, then promptly disappeared when the season started.
     
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