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Flores & Grier on the Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by KeyFin, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Phins_to_Win

    Phins_to_Win Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2013
    Well to be fair they were never irrelevant. They were bad that one year, but were a heavy favorite all the years leading up to it.
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  2. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    They were irrelevant without Manning, and then immediately relevant with Luck. Can't foresee all the injuries.
  3. danmarino

    danmarino George Floyd was murdered Club Member

    Sep 4, 2014
    These three guys have been a major factor, if not THEE factor, in drafting the following players.

    Chris Grier has drafted:

    Laremy Tunsil

    Xavien Howard

    Kenyan Drake

    Jakeem Grant

    Minkah Fitzpatrick

    Jerome Baker

    Christian Wilkins

    Marvin Allen has drafted:

    QB Josh Allen

    LB Tremaine Edmunds

    QB Patrick Mahomes

    RB Kareem Hunt

    WR Tyreek Hill

    TE Travis Kelce

    OT Eric Fisher

    CB Marcus Peters

    DE Dee Ford

    Reggie McKenzie has drafted:

    DE Khalil Mack

    QB Derek Carr

    WR Amari Cooper

    SS Karl Joesph

    CB Gareon Conley

    OT Kolton Miller
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  4. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    May 2, 2014
    SO Cal
    I also think something that gets lost in this is the "culture". We've been struggling with this for years trying to change the culture. Maybe we threw the baby with the bath water out, but that kid was a demon and that water was dirty. We're going to "adopt" a new baby and refill the tub.
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  5. SF_Dolphins_Fan

    SF_Dolphins_Fan Member

    Mar 28, 2017
    I continue to be surprised that Ross fired Gase, whose 3 year w/l record was about .500, which is not horrible.
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Dec 20, 2007
    You can’t knock Ross for getting rid of that masquerade of a head coach, imo..
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Dec 20, 2007
    I admit it sucks Rox to see you have this take, because I like you as a poster and respect your opinion..

    Let me try and give you a different angle to see if I can make you have a little tingle.

    I know there is no record on Grier that instills confidence in the personnel Dept.

    But like I’ve been pining on the board the last few weeks, it seems obvious this rebuild has been planned for a while, he recognized the magnitude of the rebuild early and went out and got help in the form of two executive talent evaluators in Allen and McKenzie.

    Its the recognition of the situation, the combination of skills in that Dept, and now the assets and capital accumulated that gives me hope..
  8. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

    Nov 26, 2007
    Detroit Metro Area MI
    It's also not good.
  9. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2017
    Oof. One the better decisions Ross has ever made. It'll soon make you very happy to know that fraud is now in NY.
  10. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

    Apr 22, 2014
  11. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Nov 1, 2009
    It's very hard to instill a winning culture on a team that's intentionally going 0-16. Add in the fact that half the roster will be gone next year and yeah, we are extremely fortunate to have a disciplined, low penalty team. We'll see how long it lasts.
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  12. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2015
    You also have to look at it as a lot of guys who wouldnt normally get a shot are now getting a chance to show that even if the team sucks, they as a player belong on a roster somewhere.

    It's not surprising those guys would try and play a tight penalty free game.
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  13. Big Phin

    Big Phin Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    Let me preface this by saying I know we stink. I am happy, however, with the subtle improvement week to week. Like I said before, the next step is putting two halves together. Now, is it coaching or teams taking the Phins lightly? I don't know, but I hope it continues. All I wanted to see from this year is an identity and improvement week to week. I listened to some talking heads talking about Flores being fired at the end of the season. I'm not sure that's right or we'll even know what kind of coach he is. Tis the business though.

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