First time in my life I am not watching superbowl

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Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:26 PM
"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

I mean, yeah Belichick and Brady are great but I think it's time to stop pretending that the Pats don't get special treatment from the refs. And usually I can't stand playing that card, but there's truth there.

Snapshots are useless. Not to mention, they let holding go on both teams yesterday, they were letting them play in the trenches.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

DAdanmarinosubscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 03:26 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

This is what I get for bringing logic to a tin-foil hat party.

You've written that before. How can it be "tin-foil" when it's 100% true? The Pats were caught cheating more than once and have been accused many more times.

The only tin-foil being worn around here is the fake armor Pats fans use to excuse when talking about how great they are.

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:28 PM

I haven't seen this many bitter faces since that old keg of Keystone Light in high school.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:30 PM

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

I mean, yeah Belichick and Brady are great but I think it's time to stop pretending that the Pats don't get special treatment from the refs. And usually I can't stand playing that card, but there's truth there.

I'm the same way- I'll point out questionable calls in our games but try not to make excuses around them for the loss (since you always could have scored on those ten other drives that your team messed up on). But when I'm watching a team like Jax that I care nothing about and the penalties (and non-penalties) are leaving me scratching my head, then I think it's time to call BS on the whole thing.

That one play where the Pats left guard had the defender in an arm bar THE ENTIRE FREAKING PLAY just defies logic...the guy was within one step of Brady twice- he was being held from behind so he spun and attacked from the other side of the blocker. It is so stupid easy to see a lineman holding because the extended arm of a guy behind the rusher stands out like a Christmas tree. And it happened over and over and over again right in front of the ref...it really just sickens me.

I think next season I'm going to start watching college football again and give up on the NFL. It's too much of a joke anymore and I almost guarantee that the Pats win another freaking ring. They don't even have to cheat anymore- the league does it for them.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:33 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

I haven't seen this many bitter faces since that old keg of Keystone Light in high school.

If you don't freaking hate the Patriots, I almost don't see how you can be a Dolphins fan. The two go hand in hand.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

DAdanmarinosubscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 03:40 PM

"dolphin25 wrote:

I turned the game off yesterday right before the half and that questionable PI call against the Jags. I knew how that game was going to play out. Makes me sick.

I did too. As soon as that happened I knew it was over for the Jags. And of course Brady, who led his team on an 86 yard TD drive is soooooo awesome. (Even though 58 of those yards were penalties..lol)

DAdanmarinosubscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 03:42 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

I haven't seen this many bitter faces since that old keg of Keystone Light in high school.

You're confusing bitter with rightful indignation.

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 03:45 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Among many other examples, such as Vince Lombardi hiring lip readers to sit in the stands w/ binoculars to watch the oppositions signal callers, this is another one.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18645192/tony-dungy-says-indianapolis-colts-stole-signals-cheat

It's all apart of the game. Has been since it's inception.

Lip reading is one thing, getting caught filming is another. Without credibility, the games mean nothing and no one would care.

Rocky RaccoonRocky Raccoonmoderator
Jan 22, 2018, 03:47 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Snapshots are useless. Not to mention, they let holding go on both teams yesterday, they were letting them play in the trenches.

Snapshots lol. How about watching the game and seeing the replays? They’re all over the place. Let’s not pretend this isn’t highly talked about right now. It’s not a “bitter” Dolphins fan thing, literally everyone is talking about it.

shamegame13shamegame13forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:50 PM

"KeyFin wrote:

I've always wondered how we're the Southern-most team in the league yet we play three northern teams within a hour or two of each other. The NE road games to NY or Buffalo aren't that big of a deal, yet we have to fly up the night before and adjust to the freezing cold. Yet the Pats come to us and enjoy South Beach in shorts each December (right before we stomp their asses).

I think divisions should be regional- throw the Giants in our current division and kick us out. We should be playing the Bucs, the Jags, and the Falcons as a SE division and skip that cold stuff completely until it's playoff time. That way every team is a 2 hour max flight from each other, the fans can travel to games a lot easier, etc. This will never happen though because it's common sense.

There’s an easy fix to this

Miami to the South, Indy to the North, Baltimore to the East... solved that a long time ago and being in our division does work against us big time.

This is so logical as Miami would now be playing
JAC, TEN, HOU, MIA. New South
IND, CIN, CLE, PIT. New North
BAL, NYJ, NE, BUF. New East

NFC needs slight fixing w/ Dallas in the East so even easier fix
ATL, DAL, NO, TB. New South
CAR, WAS, PHI, NYG. New East

This all makes too much sense but words like “tradition” will be thrown around and it will probably never happen.

shamegame13shamegame13forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 03:56 PM
"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

I mean, yeah Belichick and Brady are great but I think it's time to stop pretending that the Pats don't get special treatment from the refs. And usually I can't stand playing that card, but there's truth there.

Malcolm Butler would be considered the dirtiest CB in the league if he was on any other team in the NFL. He would of been cut 3 times in his career already due to flags if he was on any other team. But no, he’s in NE, so he’s good.

DAdanmarinosubscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 03:57 PM

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Snapshots lol. How about watching the game and seeing the replays? They’re all over the place. Let’s not pretend this isn’t highly talked about right now. It’s not a “bitter” Dolphins fan thing, literally everyone is talking about it.

Exactly. I have a buddy who was born in the Boston area. He's one of the biggest loud mouth Italians you'd even meet and he's a huge Pat's fan.

After the game yesterday he text me, "NFL is WWE now".

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:08 PM

"KeyFin wrote:

If you don't freaking hate the Patriots, I almost don't see how you can be a Dolphins fan. The two go hand in hand.

I love football first and foremost, it's an amazing human chess match, and the Dolphins are my team. I greatly admire Belichick and his approach to the game; he's a football genius. I don't hate greatness.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

PUpumpdogsforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:10 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Sucks for you.

It would be like voluntarily missing the Bull's dynasty b/c you're a Knicks or Pistons fan, and you refuse to acknowledge their greatness. Such a shame really.

Belichick is the greatest coach in NFL history. It would greatly benefit you to watch how they use their personnel, and their incredible ability of playing sound fundamentals, while also remaining versatile, flexible within their schemes, with excellent gameplans, and a great ability to make in-game adjustments.

Soak it in, folks. Ditch the ignorance and give yourself the opportunity to watch the greatest coach ever do his thing.

I have watched for 17 years.I can't stomach watching it again.

DAdanmarinosubscriber
Jan 22, 2018, 04:10 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

I love football first and foremost, it's an amazing human chess match, and the Dolphins are my team. I greatly admire Belichick and his approach to the game; he's a football genius. I don't hate greatness.

Cheating does not equal greatness.

shamegame13shamegame13forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:11 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

I love football first and foremost, it's an amazing human chess match, and the Dolphins are my team. I greatly admire Belichick and his approach to the game; he's a football genius. I don't hate greatness.

Lol Bruh..... it’s a fact that’s he’s a cheater. That’s not a debate, and I’m not up to debate a fact.

BB + TB “Greatness” = Years Of cheating

Your admiring cheating but carry on.

PUpumpdogsforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:16 PM

"jw3102 wrote:

Blaming the ref’s and the fact the Dolphins were a bad team in 2017 is nothing but continuing to make excuses for an organization which has been nothing but mediocre at best for nearly two decades.

The fans of every team blame the ref’s when their team loses a game. Yet the fact is the Dolphins were 6-10 because they had a lousy defense and a below average offense. They have far too many holes to fill going into next season and Tannehill is nothing but a mediocre QB to begin with.

So it is very likely the Dolphins will be battling the Jets for last place in the AFC East again next year, while the Patriots and Bills continue to be the best teams in the division. Blame the ref’s for the Dolphins mediocrity if it makes you happy. As for me, I believe it starts at the top and continues on down from there.

The problem with most Dolphin fans is they are willing to accept mediocrity and therefore the 8-8 record you claim they should have had is justifiable to you. To me, unless they win a SB, the season is a complete failure. So to me, they have been failing for over well over 40 years and that is on the players, coaches, front office and the various owners. Those the the individuals to blame for the Dolphins failures over the last four decades, not the referees.

I do believe the pats get the calls their way for years.But yea I do agree we suck!

sking29sking29forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:16 PM

Honest question (sincerely):

Why would the NFL "fix" a game for the Patriots and do so in an obvious way?

Was the obvious part accidental in that the refs went overboard? The NFL needs a stud ratings team in the SB and not Jax v. Philly/Minny? Reparations for DeflateGate?

I don't dismiss the notion but I don't see it either.

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." --Albert Einstein

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:16 PM

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Snapshots lol. How about watching the game and seeing the replays? They’re all over the place. Let’s not pretend this isn’t highly talked about right now. It’s not a “bitter” Dolphins fan thing, literally everyone is talking about it.

In reference to that NFL meme. In the 3rd quadrant, Jack would have been down due to contact from Lewis. In the 4th quadrant, that is not holding.

Also, concerning the penalty discrepancy, I posted about that earlier.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:18 PM

"shamegame13 wrote:

Malcolm Butler would be considered the dirtiest CB in the league if he was on any other team in the NFL. He would of been cut 3 times in his career already due to flags if he was on any other team. But no, he’s in NE, so he’s good.

Go figure. It's almost as though Butler now plays under the HC who revolutionized the modern pass defense game or something.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

shamegame13shamegame13forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:24 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

Go figure. It's almost as though Butler now plays under the HC who revolutionized the modern pass defense game or something.

He revolutionized the way(s) Of cheating. Butler heavily benefits from it.

shamegame13shamegame13forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:25 PM

"sking29 wrote:

Honest question (sincerely):

Why would the NFL "fix" a game for the Patriots and do so in an obvious way?

Was the obvious part accidental in that the refs went overboard? The NFL needs a stud ratings team in the SB and not Jax v. Philly/Minny? Reparations for DeflateGate?

I don't dismiss the notion but I don't see it either.

Dollar signs baby....

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:27 PM

"shamegame13 wrote:

He revolutionized the way(s) Of cheating. Butler heavily benefits from it.

So you think Saban cheats in the NCAA?

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

canesz06canesz06forum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:35 PM

"Carmen Cygni wrote:

So you think Saban cheats in the NCAA?

Absolutely....there is no doubt in my mind that boosters are paying top recruits to go to Bama. They get around it by not actually paying the players but taking care of their families. Whether it be paying mortgages or buying new cars. It definitely happens. Their 5 star freshman qb that just won the national championship is from Hawaii. Somehow his whole family now lives in Alabama. I wonder who paid for that. I bet his parents now have nice jobs, supplied by a rich booster, making 6 figures each. His reasoning for choosing Alabama was because of "how similar it is to Hawaii". Plus, those players are definitely on PED's. They come in as freshman and within a year, they put on 30 lbs of muscle. Saban is the dirtiest of them all.

Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Jan 22, 2018, 04:38 PM

Oh god, this is insufferable.

People are unable to identify the nuances of the game and understand the defensive concepts, so they just chalk it up to cheating b/c the don't know otherwise. Some of you should be embarrassed.

Enjoy your pity party.

"In football, no one can take all the credit for making a play successful;
that's the beauty of the game. It has to be everybody together".
- Ron Kramer

Focus on defense, then the kicking game, and then do what you can offensively
-Jim MacKenzie

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