Fins are going to visit with Earl Thomas

I always thought he would be top 3 of Miami's picks at 12..although I wish they would trade down, then get him, 12 is a little high for him...

"finyank13 wrote:

I always thought he would be top 3 of Miami's picks at 12..although I wish they would trade down, then get him, 12 is a little high for him...

Personally, I think it is down to Thomas and B Graham. I wouldnt mind either guy at 12.

"mroz wrote:

Personally, I think it is down to Thomas and B Graham. I wouldnt mind either guy at 12.

I think Williams is there too...Parcells loves NT's....

"finyank13 wrote:

I think Williams is there too...Parcells loves NT's....

ahh, I don't think Williams is worth a 1st round pick much less the 12th over all pick. Taking Williams would be a huge mistake IMO.

"finyank13 wrote:

I think Williams is there too...Parcells loves NT's....

I don't, Williams is described as being as raw as Paul Soliai was when he came out of Utah, right now Williams has jumped from a 5th rd pick prior to the 09 season, all the way up to the mid first rd?

Not seein' it Bro.

i don't think there is a chance we go safety with the first pick
they will take care of this in house or possibly still bring someone in
a parcells team has never taken a safety that early and it doesn't start now
i still think we go OLB

"Killerphins wrote:

i don't think there is a chance we go safety with the first pick
they will take care of this in house or possibly still bring someone in
a parcells team has never taken a safety that early and it doesn't start now
i still think we go OLB

I can see it though Killahp, only "if" they see Earl Thomas as a once every ten yrs player at his position, which he very well could be, ballhawking FS's that can also cover man to man are rare, and he is only 20 or 21.

Earl Thomas is a player I really like, if I were Ireland I'm not sure if I could pull the trigger on him, but I also think if we take him we will not regret it.

"padre31 wrote:

I can see it though Killahp, only "if" they see Earl Thomas as a once every ten yrs player at his position, which he very well could be, ballhawking FS's that can also cover man to man are rare, and he is only 20 or 21.

Earl Thomas is a player I really like, if I were Ireland I'm not sure if I could pull the trigger on him, but I also think if we take him we will not regret it.

Agreed, when you think about it if you hit on E Thomas you have a starting FS for the next 10+ years. Combine that with Smith and Davis and you are set (for the most part) in your defensive backfield for years to come.

"Killerphins wrote:

i don't think there is a chance we go safety with the first pick
they will take care of this in house or possibly still bring someone in
a parcells team has never taken a safety that early and it doesn't start now
i still think we go OLB

Couldnt you pretty much say the samething for the CB position before last season?

"mroz wrote:

Agreed, when you think about it if you hit on E Thomas you have a starting FS for the next 10+ years. Combine that with Smith and Davis and you are set (for the most part) in your defensive backfield for years to come.

Exactly, and we all saw the Bills ride a great secondary on an otherwise mediocre team to a far better record than what they would have had otherwise.

Difference is they did find J Byrd in rd #2, not #12.

IMO the top of their board is Bryant, E. Thomas and Graham. Spiller might be in there as well.

There been some rumors from an insider that Thomas is high on their board (I think they said that Thomas was among their top 5 players) and since they've now met with him twice, I don't see how anybody can doubt that he's a strong consideration.

I don't see Williams as a possibility. IMO he's over rated and he doesn't fit what they're looking for. If they go NT in the first, which I think is very unlikely, I see Odrick as a stronger possibility.

"mroz wrote:

Couldnt you pretty much say the samething for the CB position before last season?

Also when's the last time a Parcells team went 2 years in a row without drafting a LB. 16 picks without a LB.

I ignore everyone who thinks they have the Parcells/Ireland regime drafting trends figured out

Is anyone else worried about starting rookie free safety?

"rafael wrote:

IMO the top of their board is Bryant, E. Thomas and Graham. Spiller might be in there as well.

There been some rumors from an insider that Thomas is high on their board (I think they said that Thomas was among their top 5 players) and since they've now met with him twice, I don't see how anybody can doubt that he's a strong consideration.

I don't see Williams as a possibility. IMO he's over rated and he doesn't fit what they're looking for. If they go NT in the first, which I think is very unlikely, I see Odrick as a stronger possibility.

You're probably right Raffy. But, in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder if maybe it's all just a smoke screen. I mean, while many thought they were going CB with the first pick last year, few thought it would be Davis. Of ourse, few thought he'd still be on the board at #25 too. But, it could be their targeting another S in the 2nd or 3rd round (or later), and they're just trying to keep everyone off balance.

Just a thought...

"padre31 wrote:

Exactly, and we all saw the Bills ride a great secondary on an otherwise mediocre team to a far better record than what they would have had otherwise.

Difference is they did find J Byrd in rd #2, not #12.

Personally I don't care where we get the player as long as he is a player.

all this effort to find a FS. and none to find a #1 wr.

"bakedmatt wrote:

Is anyone else worried about starting rookie free safety?

I am more worried about starting a Guy that can't play. Sure a rookie is going to have some growing pains but I am OK with hat as long as there is progress.

"padre31 wrote:

I don't, Williams is described as being as raw as Paul Soliai was when he came out of Utah, right now Williams has jumped from a 5th rd pick prior to the 09 season, all the way up to the mid first rd?

Not seein' it Bro.

Not saying I would have him, saying he would be in their board....Earl Thomas is a guy I have had intrigue with for a while at 12, actually got clowned on here a couple of times when I said so....

"finyank13 wrote:

Not saying I would have him, saying he would be in their board....Earl Thomas is a guy I have had intrigue with for a while at 12, actually got clowned on here a couple of times when I said so....

Draft season is a marathon FY, one day a guy is up, the next day, down.

I liked D Morgan at #12 after I did not like him, now Mayock is saying he struggles in space.

Eh, whaddyagoing to do?

Fougetaboutit.

"padre31 wrote:

Draft season is a marathon FY, one day a guy is up, the next day, down.

I liked D Morgan at #12 after I did not like him, now Mayock is saying he struggles in space.

Eh, whaddyagoing to do?

Fougetaboutit.

hahaha true true...much like FA...your boy from the sticks is real high on him still though....

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"The G Man wrote:

You're probably right Raffy. But, in the back of my mind I can't help but wonder if maybe it's all just a smoke screen. I mean, while many thought they were going CB with the first pick last year, few thought it would be Davis. Of ourse, few thought he'd still be on the board at #25 too. But, it could be their targeting another S in the 2nd or 3rd round (or later), and they're just trying to keep everyone off balance.

Just a thought...

They could be, but IIRC last year every one of our picks was somebody they'd spoken to and the majority were prospects they'd spoken to more than once. So while their interest in Thomas may be a smokescreen, I think it's more likely that he's a consideration at #12.

"bakedmatt wrote:

Is anyone else worried about starting rookie free safety?

There probably isn't a player we could draft who we wouldn't have some concerns about starting day 1. Whomever we draft will be worked in on some plays and will probably have some screw-ups. I'm no more concerned about starting a FS as I am about starting a WR or OLB.

Probably the biggest day one impact player the team can find. He'd be an immediate difference-maker as a deep cover safety with two large CBs on the outsides supporting him. Everything over the top though isn't a jump ball though. Sure it won't help him that he's 5-10, but it's not the end of the world.

I would not be annoyed if we drafted Thomas, signed a veteran WR like Holt, drafted an OLB, and drafted a TE in the third round.

"Jaj wrote:

Probably the biggest day one impact player the team can find. He'd be an immediate difference-maker as a deep cover safety with two large CBs on the outsides supporting him. Everything over the top though isn't a jump ball though. Sure it won't help him that he's 5-10, but it's not the end of the world.

I would not be annoyed if we drafted Thomas, signed a veteran WR like Holt, drafted an OLB, and drafted a TE in the third round.

I can see this happening actually....good call...