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Finnegan signs 2 year deal w/Miami

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dan Griese, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    The weird thing is I'm hearing something about him having $2.5 million already guaranteed to him by the Rams. By paying him more than that, we're essentially picking up the Rams' tab for him. Was any team going to value him at more than $2.5 million in 2014? If not then Miami should have been able to pay him the vet's minimum and then have the Rams pick up the rest to make him whole.
     
  2. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...archive=false&conference=null&qualified=false

    Tannehill finished the tied for 4th place in passes over 40 yards with CKap, Big Ben, Stafford, and Wilson. They all completed a whopping 10 pass plays over 40 yards.

    Does that mean that all 4 are inaccurate at throwing "deep"?

    Dalton and Brees led the league in 40+ yard category, but only with 15 each. After that, it was Flacco (14), and Folkes and PManning with 13 each.

    Tannehill mostly struggles in the 21 - 39 yard range from the numbers I have seen on his splits: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill

    All in all, apart from the pass pro, the real killer to the season was the loss of Gibson. He was the straw in passing game drink. With Gibson, we averaged 22.3 ppg. 18.3 ppg after losing him... but some of ppg decrease can be attributed to Sturgis.


    Not a Wallace fan and haven't been back to his Ole Miss days. The guy is now a veteran receiver, who is the 4th highest paid receiver in football and had 11 drops on the season, which was also 4th among receivers I think. He showed no leadership and little ability to help his QB out.

    Wallace did step up and admit some responsibility on TheFinsiders a while back about not being more aggressive, fighting for the ball, or doing more to get PI calls. The reason he didn't get the PI calls was that he is too passive. You can complain about the QB's ball placement, but it's duplicitous when the balls are also bouncing off your chest, arms, and hands...
     
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  3. LBsFinest

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    You can add this deal alongside Wheeler's to the list of contracts a potential new GM will almost immediately try to get out of.

    I mean this is crazy, at least Wheeler played somewhat well in Oakland, Finnegan hasn't been good in years. I don't even know if Ireland would've done this.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Doesn't have to try too hard. It is a two year deal where if he doesn't return to form is easily cut.
     
  5. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The nfl.com link says he had 10 completions of 40+yds. The ESPN link says he was 3 of 12 throwing 41+ yards. Does that mean he had 7 completions of exactly 40 yards? Am I missing something?
     
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  6. MrClean

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    Ck pointed out earlier today that Verner's contract only averages a million more per year. So for that much more we maybe could have had Verner. :headwall:
     
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  7. Alex44

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    A completion of 40+ yards isn't ball in the air. It could be a 45 yard screen pass and would count.

    The ESPN link is his ball in air over 40 yards statistic. The other is just how many of his pass plays in total went that far throw and catch combined.
     
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  8. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    So the 3 of 12 is what matters. Does he still tie for 4th best when throwing 41+ yards in the air?
     
  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Nope. He was pretty close to the bottom. Good news is it can fluctuate grwatly year to year. Flacco has been at the top in balls in the air over 40 yards his whole career but was dead last this season. So Tannehill could be much better next season.
     
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  10. Larry Little

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    Not the same guy. I just got my wires crossed. I was thinking of someone different. Not Delmas, and not Mitchell.


    Ah, gotcha. I thought you were implying signing Finnegan was better than signing "this other guy who goes for the knees."
     
  11. 77FinFan

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    Ouch.
     
  12. cuchulainn

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    Yep, didn't catch the difference in the two links earlier. Context is king. Still, I'm more concerned about the pass plays in the 30 yard range.
     
  13. Jt0323

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    FIN-negan! Perfect
     
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  14. Fin-Omenal

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    Another hole in this is Mike Wallace had 5 drops, slating outside the top 50 in that stat. Maybe you mistaken him for Hartline who had 9. I mean they do look alike and all. :pity:
     
  15. Fin D

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    True. It can't be a drop if you don't even try to catch it.
     
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  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    PFF has Wallace with 11 drops and Hartline with 5.
     
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  17. Fin-Omenal

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    On my phone now, site had BH... someone find a tie breaker!!

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  18. Fin-Omenal

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    And they had BH with 9??

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  19. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    If Ireland would have done this, he would be raked over the coals.

    To be fair.......He does try to catch it IF there are no DBs around him, and it's thrown directly to his chest.
     
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  20. cuchulainn

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    No, 11 was a number that was provided in the link I read a while back. I went back looking for it, but can't find it now. You're saying he had 5, which was his TD total. I can't find a link for that for that number of drops either. I did find a link saying he had only 3, but I find that suspect. Here: http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

    Now I'm wondering if the 11 wasn't a projected number at the time based on his performance like this link where they had him projected for 8 drops: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1839507-resetting-expectations-for-dolphins-wr-mike-wallace

    Also, in re-reviewing this, I don't think what constitutes a drop is clearly defined. It seems to be more based on the criteria of a specific writer or site. Agree on Hartline though.
     
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  22. MrClean

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    Hartline had 4 Td catches and 5 drops
     
  23. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Drops are so subjective that I don't even look at the number. I care more about them in game than as a whole on the season.
     
  24. Fin-Omenal

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    I agree. 11 drops for a WR who wasn't targeted a ton just sounds off.

    Many posters here have flat out disliked Wallace from the go. So much that many of them like to direct the majority of the blame on him. It's comical.

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  25. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Well the problem is that he was supposed to be some offensive savior that made our team a huge offensive threat.

    No single player can do that. Football is like chess....some pieces are more useful than others but no single piece can defeat an opponent on its own. Its all about how your units work together.
     
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  26. Fin-Omenal

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    I watched Wallace in Pittsburgh pretty regularly and he basically did in Miami what he did in Pitt. Puts himself in position to make big plays

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  27. ckparrothead

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    Yes. But that's also proper because of the context. Ireland previously had a LOT of rope to hang himself with and so moves with this kind of bad perception just piled on top of a mountain of crap he'd already done.

    Right now as he's new, Hickey's pile of crap moves is bare. And we don't even necessarily know if this was a crap move.
     
  28. GMJohnson

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    I thought it was more of a dig or in route than a post, if I'm mistaken thanks for the correction.
     
  29. GMJohnson

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    Only 5? I swear Hartline dropped 12 passes at Buffalo alone :/
     
  30. GMJohnson

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    Agreed. Hopefully he gets better with his feet and decisiveness, better protection should help with that too.
     
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  31. Alex44

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    Exactly, but the pieces around him didn't allow him to have the exact same results.

    I feel like people, not you but others, get caught up in the hype of players and just forget football is a team sport.
     
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    Oh well all we can hope is that he is healthy. There were much better options at that kind of money I would have given it to Cromartie. But now we just got to hope that Finnegan is as effective as Patterson except healthy..
     
  35. djphinfan

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    Peculiar statement from fisher..

    Hmmm
     
  36. invid

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    Sounds like he's talking about his rehab, peculiar thing is when he was asked how he felt one or two weeks ago, Finnegan said, "Hunnit."
     
  37. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Why would he say the word commitment though?

    What is hunnit mean?
     
  38. Fin D

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    hundred, as 100%
     
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  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your so hip.
     
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  40. Fin D

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    True story
     

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