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finding two new LB'ing coaches

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by the 23rd, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    evidently, we need to replace two line-backing coaches:
    1) one strong runner is a very experienced & competent, ex-parcells associate: Al Groh
    2) how about we go after Zach Thomas for the second opening?
    makes sense to me. give the guy a shot @ teaching/mentoring & coaching @ what he has done best.
    He would be nothing short of inspirational for Miami.
     
  2. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    should have entitled this thread: Zach Thomas
    would have been just as worthless a thread
    but would have @ least attracted some attention
    packaging, presentation, promotion advertisement
    whatever
    just like to see Zach back home where he belongs
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Zach Thomas?

    Nah, not seeing it, Positional Coaches have to earn their bones 23rd, typically they begin as small college head coaches and move up from there.

    I'm not against it mind you, just not seein' it.
     
  4. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    good to see you posting again. had me a little worried w/ the hiatus

    you're right, I'm being sentimental
    like I said not really much of a thread
    did notice USF lost their head coach (Leavitt)
    of about 15 years, post-dated Dungy w/ TampaBay
    the guy started his career @ Iowa as a LB coach, then moved to D/C
    he might need a change of venue
    & be a legitimate option, to accompany Groh
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    This may sound crazy 23rd, but Zach T would be a great fit in the UFL, as DefCord maybe even a Head Coach, it would allow him to work with professionalis as well as if he is successful he would have some positive film on his work.

    The UFL is kinda cool if one thinks about it.
     
  6. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    would like to see Zach stay in Florida & get a break coaching somewhere
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    There are the Tuskers up in the panhandle.

    I'd like to see ZT have that opportunity, just to see if his work ethic is a transferrable skill to guys who are on the cusp of the NFL, but not quite there yet.
     
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  8. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    You never know, padre. I think Singletary's first coaching gig was as LB coach w/the Ravens.
    But still, I see Ireland and Sparano going with someone they're more familiar with and who's experienced.
    I could see Zach being a great coach somewhere, though. If that's what he wants to do, anyway.
     
  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    And he was successful with the ravens, that is the thing, a wannabe has to actually prove they can coach before anyone will give them a good coaching position.

    Zach would have a great shot in the UFL to show what he could do, maybe enough so to land a HC job in DivII or a positional job in the NFL, but he would have to land that first job.

    The UFL is set to expand this offseason, there will be plenty of jobs he could do.
     
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    late again Senior Member

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    Yeah, true. If Zach wants to coach, then he ought to go through whichever door is open to him and if he succeeds then he'll be noticed.
     
  11. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Who says Zach can coach? Maybe he doens't want to or maybe he would suck at being a coach?? Usually good players suck at becoming coaches.

    Zach was a good player.......

    Don Shula sucked as a player, great coach

    Bill Cowher sucked as a player, great coach.
     
  12. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    got to know something to teach something
    & be motivated to motivate someone else

    don't believe that good players cannot be good coaches

    maybe, some of the great ones, have had it by the end
    of their illustrious careers, but Zach still wants a piece of the game
    the passion is there, the desire is still there

    I definitely can see him as a coach
     
  13. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Singletary was a good player who became a good coach.

    Shula didn't suck as a player. He wasn't All Pro, but a competent player. He played in 73 games in 7 seasons and had 21 interceptions and four fumble recoveries. You don't last for 73 games in the league, if you "suck"

    Bill Cowher didn't suck either. He was a very good special teams player for the Browns.
     
  14. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I don't know why he couldn't. Mike Singletary's first coaching gig at any level was as the Ravens LB coach. Zach is equally smart. It all depends if coaching is what he wants to do right now.

    I don't think it is necessarily typical that NFL positional coaches were once small college head coaches. They take many different routes into the league. Some were just positional coaches in college before doing the same in the NFL. I'd say as many or more than those who began as small college head coaches.
     
  15. padre31

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    23 was speaking about Zach coming directly to the Dolphins to coach, and the staff typically is filled with ex head coaches of small colleges, save for Kacy Rodgers the Dline coach.

    inow, while positional coaches do not have to have prior HC experience as a general rule in the NFL, for the Dolphins they more typically do, or have prior experience with Parcells and Co.
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Former college head coaches amongst 2009 Dolphins assts: Karl Dorrell, Paul Pasqualoni, David Lee, George DeLeone and Jim Reid. (5)
    Former High School head coaches: Steve Bush (1)
    Never been college head coaches: John Bonamego, Todd Bowles, David Corrao, Dave DeGuglielmo, George Edwards, Dan Henning, Evan Marcus, Dave Puloka, Darren Rizzi, Kacy Rodgers and James Saxon. (11)

    Former college head coaches made up about 29% of the Dolphins assts in 2009. Nothing about those numbers would indicate to me that Zach's never having been an asst coach, would in of itself remove him from consideration.
     
  17. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    maybe Zach would be a good choice
     
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    m ino New Member

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    what ever we do i hope it's soon so they can get on the same page about getting the 3 new guys they will be coaching.
    i have never really been a fan of player coaches of people that are still in the game.when we signed jason garrett(sp)to play third qb it was "hey why not let him coach?",trent green,chad p,zach thomas..on and on.might as well start the "sean smith should coach our d-backs"thread.
     
  19. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I don't want to see him return as a player. He has injuries that should exclude him from the game.
     
  20. NJFINSFAN1

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    Tell Pepper Johnson that!

    Tell Bryan Cox that!
     
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  21. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    ^^ I see El Padre has been silent on this matter, ever since it was pointed out that his premise doesn't hold water.:wink2:
     

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