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FIGHT!! Incognito -vs- Dotson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    With Richie Incognito you know what to expect - a big physical linemen with an attitude. No one discovered that better than Lionel Dotson on a first hand basis.

    After several reps of playing against each other Incognito wrestled Dotson to the turf in a personal war of words and fists. Although the scuffle was quickly broken up the message was clear. This years OL is not going to tolerate any funny business.

    Let the word go forth to defensive linemen everywhere. This will be the biggest, nastiest and most physical OL in the league. (and I just love it!) :up:
     
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  2. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    I'm calling it now...multiple Incognito penalties will call back some nice sized Ricky/Ronnie runs
     
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  3. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    It seems enviable. No one needs another Bryan Cox issue. That's the awful downside of being a tough guy and Cox was a tough guy. If Incognito can keep himself in check we will gain much in the respect dept. This is truly a double edged sword.
     
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  4. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm calling it now...Icongnito will pull and knock some linebacker on his ***, springing Ricky/Ronnie into the second level for nice sized runs.
     
  5. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Incognito is not just a tough guy IMO. He's an A-hole. He's got some wild temper issues, going back to his college days.
     
  6. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=- Club Member

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    As long as he doesn't hold/clip anyone or allow pressure, he's alright with me. He's the guy who will take some unlucky LB by his dreads and pound on his head.:shifty:
     
  7. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    Ok we are what 8 days into camp and this guy has already been in 3 "fights". I really like the fire and enthusiasm, but if this isn't throwing warning flags up in your mind, you're just not thinking. He has a history of this type of behavior on the field and it costing his team. Don't get me wrong I like Icognito and I am not banging on him but in addition to his "enthusiasm" he has to play smart too.
     
  8. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Reload

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    Whens the season start hurry up PAALEASSSE?????

    Just hope the positive yards outway the penalty yards.
     
  9. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    This is an angry guy on the field.

    But this stuff happens. You're practicing against the same guys every day and there's no break. No game where you beat on another group of guys. It gets redundant and guys get itchy.

    It's certainly noteworthy that it's the same guy every time. But I'm not ready to label it just yet.
     
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  10. Shamboubou

    Shamboubou Well-Known Member

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    You have to think though if this guy is doing this crap to his team member, what the hell is he going to do against guys he doesn't have to share a locker room with?? I'm completely fine with with an O-Lineman playing physical, but the fighting and everything just shows that he has no control.
     
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  11. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Angry guys are alright by me. Cszonka played more angry than anyone this side of Dick Butkus and he great. As long as Richie Rich doesn't lose his head he'll be alright.
     
  12. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    One fight means nothing. I doubt you've played football if you think other wise. In high school I got into plenty of fights in practice and never once in a game
     
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  13. IceStorm

    IceStorm New Member

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    I understand what you're saying. And not to be a wise guy, but we're not talking about you. We're talking about Incognito and his attitude/temper.
    He's already proven in his past that he's willing to get penalties during a game and cost his team.
    We'll just have to wait and see if he can do more good than he can do bad.
     
  14. sandcastle

    sandcastle Active Member

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    Perhaps, it's part of the plan where Sparano wants a guy to rile up the rest of the OL, which consists of bunch of nice guys.

    Does anyone know if Incognito's penalties were unprovoked or did they occurred against a DL that was constantly holding or attacking OLs knees?
     
  15. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Skirmishes all around the league. Just read Darnell Dockett from the Cardinals has been in 4 already. His coach, Wizenhunt seems to love it as long as no one gets injured. Hot weather all over the map this year. Dockett made all pro by being a bad azzz.
     
  16. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    As I think I have said, my neighbor is a big Rams fan. He has all the games taped. Incognito and Dockett are almost as good watching as Ali and Frazier fights. Most problems I saw was Incognito gets to the second level a lot and fast and DBs and LBers take offense that an Olineman is out there pounding on them. Unforetunately, they take a swipe at him and he swipes back and as usual, the ref only sees the guy swiping back. Sure its not all like that. Let them get their agression out now. Camp is far worse then any game they play in.
     
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  17. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    How about losing your cool more than once, or twice, or three times... on and off the field.


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3729506

    http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=252907&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_nfl

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3649168

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4755245

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/10/08/richie-incognito-apparently-tries-to-hurt-people/

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2004-09-01-roundup_x.htm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/09/28/bc.fbc.incognito.oregon.ap/


    Nebraska, Oregon, the Rams and the Bills did not all get rid of a guy who everyone agrees has talent and ability without a lot of good reasons.
     
  18. PerfectTeam

    PerfectTeam Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I was there today and calling it a fight seems like a stretch to me. A couple of pushes and shouting but I wouldn't call it a fight.
     
  19. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Ha, Richie Cartman...

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  20. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    I'll personally hop onto the field and bust his skull if it were to happen.
     
  21. BayAreaFinFan

    BayAreaFinFan D'oh

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    He is a hot head for sure. Hopefully Sparano can contain his mental lapses during the season.
     
  22. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    So was Ron Heller and Kevin Donnalley.
     
  23. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    As was Kevin Gogan, who was voted dirtiest player in the league while with the 9rs
     
  24. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    hmm, after his first fight in camp i got criticized by another poster for saying that he could cause us uneccesary penalties this season....seems the trend is continuing. I honestly really hope its just a practice thing with him this season but im not sure that may be the case.
     
  25. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Well conisdering that he is a nutcase it shouldnt be a suprise.
     
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  27. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I hear you , but he is our tough guy a-hole and that isn't necessarily a bad thing .

    He has to temper that, and the hope is Coach can facilitate that , and channel that aggression positively.

    Fine line , but the upside is appealing and I am wanting to see where this goes before easily falling into it is what it was mode.
     
  28. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    THAT IS THE BEST PICTURE EVER!!!!

    Can I have it pleases and than yous?


    OH and back to the thread, where was Mr Incognito (to you mooks) when Rodney the dirtiest MFer in the NFL was playing us twice a yr. Him and his buddy Seymore Butts. Woulda lovred an azzkicker like that on the team then. Closest we got to that now is Ronnie Brown, calling out DBs who take cheap shots.
     
  29. FanMarino

    FanMarino Season Ticket Holder

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    Who cares. Jerry will take his spot soon enough anyway. :up:
     
  30. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah but that will piss him off even more. :lol:
     
  31. felly smarts

    felly smarts New Member

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    In high school me and my center used to absolutely hate each other in practice. We would go out of our way to cheap shot each other. But when we won our games we probably were the first 2 to high five each other. We were that intense during practice. And it definitely carried over to the game on Friday Nights. In the NFL these guys are together all the time. There isn't any breaks. They eat, sleep, watch films, team meetings and two-a-days together. Not too mention that it's hotter than 2 rats f**king in a wool sock out there. 1000 coaches hollering and screaming all the time. I couldn't imagine my head coach times 25. I love the intensity and will expect great things from those guys on game day.
     
  32. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Yeah, he is our A-hole and we do need to control him but I'm not counting on it. He's tough to control because he's nuts. I'm fairly sure that over the last six to eight years, coaches have tried to control him and he went out of whack. He's a nut case, unfortunately.
     
  33. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I'm interested in seeing who the starting guards will be:
    1) will they give rookie (Jerry) a shot? looks like everything up until now indicates it
    2) will Incognito or Thomas win out & what will be the configuration left & right.
    3) need to make a initial determination soon.
    4) long-jerry-grove-incognito-carey? or long-incognito-grove-thomas-carey? or whatever???
    5) the offensive line needs time to learn coverage & get into sync as a unit
     
  34. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I get that , really , and do have the same concerns you and others do . Maybe to a less of an extent though.

    Sometimes "spirited, independent" children , players need the right parent or coach. If they believe in the bond strong enough , there can be the positive change that takes those attributes from a minus to a plus.

    I am not saying it will automatically happen , however I do emphatically believe Tony Sparano has a better connection with him than previous co aches.

    Players with that type of energy can do an awful lot of great things if they know 100% that their coach is behind them 1000% . There becomes a need to please that overides some, many of prior negatives.

    Now I don't know if Incognito has genuine medical , psychological challenges , but from how Sparano is enamoured with him and how players want to follow Coach I want to see how this unfolds.

    As mentioned , Ron Heller was a NASTY SOB , pure nasty , and he was an overall plus for Miami imo , that is what I envision and am crossing my fingers for.
     
  35. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I'm hoping he can change his ways, but you really have to wonder / worry about a guy that teams with the talent pool of the Rams and Bills decided they were better off without.
     
  36. Makados10

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    He can be as nasty as he wants to be, as long as it doesn't cost the team.
     
  37. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    he's also a fat ***...I have no expectations for him.
     
  38. MikeHoncho

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    I heard Ron Artest can play TE
     
  39. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    Great post, exactly what worries me about the guy. I like the nasty aspect, but have no desire to see good drives killed by stupid penalties. Tony Sparano won't put up with that, if it happens Incognito will be benched in a New York second.
     

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