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why not allow fans to express their displeasure with this organization as they choose?

I don't like it either, but there's nothing that we can do about it. Everybody deals with losing in their own way, some are supportive and some wear bags on their head.

Well if we start winning and become a playoff team again then you won't see people wearing bags on their heads. It's as simple as that.

"Passrusher wrote:

Well if we start winning and become a playoff team again then you won't see people wearing bags on their heads. It's as simple as that.

Isn't that a touch on the "bandwagon-ish" side though? You either support your team or you don't.

I don't wear a bag on my head but the people who do ARE at the game! So they are supporting the team in a way.

"Passrusher wrote:

I don't wear a bag on my head but the people who do ARE at the game! So they are supporting the team in a way.

Sorry, I wasn't directing the comment at you, just the question.

Umm...but what does wearing the bag do exactly? What results do the bag wearers hope to get from it? I doubt it fills the players with confidence when they look up at the stands and see a half empty stadium, and the ones that do show up have bags on their head. I'm sure the FO already knows that the fans aren't happy when they go 1-15 and the stadium has more rival fans than home fans.

So what does it accomplish exactly?

"like2god wrote:

Sorry, I wasn't directing the comment at you, just the question.

Umm...but what does wearing the bag do exactly? What results do the bag wearers hope to get from it? I doubt it fills the players with confidence when they look up at the stands and see a half empty stadium, and the ones that do show up have bags on their head. I'm sure the FO already knows that the fans aren't happy when they go 1-15 and the stadium has more rival fans than home fans.

So what does it accomplish exactly?

How do you propose letting the Dolphins organization know you're unhappy with the product they're putting on the field? If you oppose what other fans are doing, propose what they should be doing. Or do you think a "fan" shouldn't ever voice their displeasure with what's happened to the team they love?

"general tso wrote:

How do you propose letting the Dolphins organization know you're unhappy with the product they're putting on the field? If you oppose what other fans are doing, propose what they should be doing. Or do you think a "fan" shouldn't ever voice their displeasure with what's happened to the team they love?

It's fine to boo, it's fine to not attend and it's fine to complain on an internet board. I just don't see the logic in wearing a bag on your head, further humiliating the players and the organization. JMO though

I've learned that there are some people here that are okay with stoning the rivals team bus, so nothing surprises me anymore.

I hate it. I feel its a stab in the back. personally if you feel ashamed I think you should go root for someone else

"SuperMarksBros. wrote:

why not allow fans to express their displeasure with this organization as they choose?

if u are not ashamed of your team u like u them u will not put a papper back over ur head and if u are ashamed go root for the pats or someone u wouldnt have to were a paper bag there i am happy to be a dolphin fan i were my stuff ever where i go and i am not ashamed

"like2god wrote:

Umm...but what does wearing the bag do exactly?

Tells the losers they suck and as fans we ain't happy campers!

Maybe they're wanted felons and also happen to be 'Phinfans? Personally, I just think it's a very juvenile thing to do, but that's just my opinion.

They are paying money for their tickets so they have just as much right to do/say whatever they like IMO. Sticking a bag on ones head is better than booing the players during a game IMO. If the team started to play well during the game the bags will come off anyway so its no big deal.

Well, just my opinion but, Miami fans are notoriously bad for turning on the team. It's hard for anybody to win over our fans. IT just seems to me that wearing a bag on your head is counter productive. If I was a player and I saw that I would feel pretty let down, I'd be pissed.

"FanMarino wrote:

They are paying money for their tickets so they have just as much right to do/say whatever they like IMO. Sticking a bag on ones head is better than booing the players during a game IMO. If the team started to play well during the game the bags will come off anyway so its no big deal.

I've had this conversation on this board before and was horrified by what Miami fans felt was "their right".

Because you pay for a ticket, does that give you the right to yell obcenities towards the field, disrupting other fans that also payed the price of admission and don't want their kids to hear "**** you Ca-moron, you ****ing ****sucker"?

Because you pay for the ticket, does that mean that you can throw thigns onto the field or at the team buses?

Because you pay for the ticket, does that mean that rules and manners don't apply to you?

The price of admission gives you the right to a reserved seat, it doesn't give one the right to make themselves a part of the game with rude and inappropriate behavior or endanger the safety of others. Just curious how far you feel you can go because you payed for a ticket. Like I said, there are people here that felt it was okay to throw rocks and bottles onto the field and at the team buses, among other things.

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

if u are not ashamed of your team u like u them u will not put a papper back over ur head and if u are ashamed go root for the pats or someone u wouldnt have to were a paper bag there i am happy to be a dolphin fan i were my stuff ever where i go and i am not ashamed

what?

"phinfanuk wrote:

Well, just my opinion but, Miami fans are notoriously bad for turning on the team. It's hard for anybody to win over our fans. IT just seems to me that wearing a bag on your head is counter productive. If I was a player and I saw that I would feel pretty let down, I'd be pissed.

No, it's not hard to win over our fans. Just win! It's that simple. Miami puts a winning team on the field, no more paper bags. Play well, no more booing.

Kansas City has arguably the best fan support in the NFL and guess what many fans did in their last home games, they wore paper bags over their heads and held up signs asking for Peterson and Edwards to get canned. That kind of stuff happens in every NFL city when the team has 12+ losses despite preseason or early season playoff hopes.

I think Miami's problems run a bit deeper than fans paying to attend the game and cheering for their team, but happen to be wearing paper bags on their heads to show that they're not happy with the team. I'd look towards the crappy teams we're putting on the field and the empty seats, not the filled ones.

"phinfanuk wrote:

Well, just my opinion but, Miami fans are notoriously bad for turning on the team. It's hard for anybody to win over our fans. IT just seems to me that wearing a bag on your head is counter productive. If I was a player and I saw that I would feel pretty let down, I'd be pissed.

Perhaps our players should spend less time looking in the stands and more time figuring out how to win football games? It's their poor play that brought out the paper bags in the first place.

If I were them, I'd be more let down by the thousands of empty seats than the dozens of paper bags.

"like2god wrote:

I've had this conversation on this board before and was horrified by what Miami fans felt was "their right".

Because you pay for a ticket, does that give you the right to yell obcenities towards the field, disrupting other fans that also payed the price of admission and don't want their kids to hear "**** you Ca-moron, you ****ing ****sucker"?

Because you pay for the ticket, does that mean that you can throw thigns onto the field or at the team buses?

Because you pay for the ticket, does that mean that rules and manners don't apply to you?

The price of admission gives you the right to a reserved seat, it doesn't give one the right to make themselves a part of the game with rude and inappropriate behavior or endanger the safety of others. Just curious how far you feel you can go because you payed for a ticket. Like I said, there are people here that felt it was okay to throw rocks and bottles onto the field and at the team buses, among other things.

The price of admission gives the fan the right to watch a great sport and to enjoy it with others who share the same passion. Throwing objects and swearing isnt sharing the passion, its trying to be an individual and showing a low self esteem.
Anyone who yells obscenities in front of kids is just low in the class department. Anyone throwing objects should be banned for life IMO, whether it endangers fans, staff or players i dont care. Ban them. I think when you go to any sports spectacle decent behaviour should be the norm and expected and not have it ruined by moronic idiots. Its a society thing and vindictive of the modern way of life. Its too easy to swear, drink and not consider other fans around you. Let fans wear paper bags and let fans boo at the half or at the end of the game. Thats harmless and it shows we care about the Fins.

"FanMarino wrote:

The price of admission gives the fan the right to watch a great sport and to enjoy it with others who share the same passion. Throwing objects and swearing isnt sharing the passion, its trying to be an individual and showing a low self esteem.
Anyone who yells obscenities in front of kids is just low in the class department. Anyone throwing objects should be banned for life IMO, whether it endangers fans, staff or players i dont care. Ban them. I think when you go to any sports spectacle decent behaviour should be the norm and expected and not have it ruined by moronic idiots. Its a society thing and vindictive of the modern way of life. Its too easy to swear, drink and not consider other fans around you. Let fans wear paper bags and let fans boo at the half or at the end of the game. Thats harmless and it shows we care about the Fins.

While I still don't see the point or effectivenss of the paperbag thing, fair enough and good post. :up:

they are just showing the team and organisation their agony, we deal with it in a different way.

its more of a joke than a true feeling, none of us are ashamed to be Dolfans.