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Fallout 4 TBA?

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  1. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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  2. Bruzer

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    I have no doubt we will see a Fallout 4.
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I hope it has nothing to do with Fallout 3. The writing was pretty bad for all sorts of canonical and objective reasons.

    Example: Where the hell did the kids in Little Lamplight come from?

    New Vegas was much better, ridiculous bugs aside.
     
  4. finsincebirth

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    I really enjoyed New Vegas. I think post of it was that with Vegas it wasn't as drab and bleak. The city had color. I felt fallout 3 was just one giant neutral color. I understand that's point, but still.

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  5. Silverphin

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    You think a Fallout in S. Florida would be viable?
     
  6. Desides

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    I do, but they would they need to set aside a lot of canon or common gameplay elements to make it work. For example: no one would really believe that they built vast underground nuclear bunkers in what is essentially a swamp. It also negates a lot of the cowboy/western themes.

    Rumors are that the setting for Fallout 4 is Boston and the surrounding area.

    This is because Fallout 3 (and New Vegas) had color filters overlaid across the screen. :lol: FO3 had a green filter, NV had a yellowish-brown filter. Nice thing about the PC versions: you can get mods to eliminate the color filters and improve the color palette and lighting in the games. New Vegas in particular looks really good with a brighter palette.
     
  7. finsincebirth

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    Fallout Bath Salts Apocalypse?

    That's one of the reasons that I'm excited for my new computer.
     
  8. TiP54

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    I saw somebody tweet that somebody said that someone heard that somebody said that they saw somebody...Anyway, you get the point. I read somwehre that the developer or the creator or something said "The Mojave desert was fun place to explore, amirite?"
    Something among those lines. I'd prefer the setting to be on the East Coast, and I'm sure Bethesda will have tons of fun with a Boston setting.
     
  9. TiP54

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    Also, while it is not distinct indicator, the fact that Three Dog is coming back hints (to me at least) that the game is more likely to be played on the East Coast, despite what the dude said about the Majave Wasteland.
     
  10. Desides

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    I don't think th two statements are contradictory. What if the area around Boston is desert-like?

    Or they're hinting that elements of NV will appear in FO4. Does Caesar's Legion make it all the way to Boston?
     
  11. TiP54

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    I was thinking that. For the sake of the game though, I'm, sure they can make something up. Plus, I don't think I saw anything time table wise. When is the game going to take place in relevance of 3 and NV.
     
  12. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    I thought they were on a school trip or something? I seem to remember hearing the story but maybe i just made it up in my head.
     
  13. Silverphin

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    You're not wrong.

    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Little_lamplight
     
  14. Silverphin

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    Maybe a vault wouldn't have to appear? And even if one does, considering that an oil rig was was featured before, I don't think an underwater vault would be out of the question. Plus, Fallout 3 didn't have that much western elements. Maybe they can go a bit Sea Punk?
     
  15. pennphinfan

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    I would enjoy boston just bc ive lived there.. but i wouldnt be surprised to see florida for the incorpation of a disney world style amusement park setting
     
  16. Desides

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    To paraphrase Silverphin, you're both wrong. :lol:

    There was an elementary school field trip to the Lamplight Caverns in 2077 when the nuclear war in the Fallout universe began. So the teachers, chaperones, and kids were stuck in the caves in 2077, and the adults died as they went to scavenge for supplies.

    But Fallout 3 happens in 2277. Two hundred years later. So... where did the kids in Little Lamplight in the year 2277 come from? The kids on the field trip didn't live 200 years. It's an entirely new set of kids. Where did they come from?

    Fallout 3 only makes sense if you pretend that it happens a few years after the nuclear war, rather than 200 years after, but even then there are major inconsistencies from one quest to another. FONV is much, much more tightly written.
     
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    I am one of the few people who likes Fallout 3 better than NV.
    One of the reasons is because I got to play Fallout 3 on my PC before it burned down, along with all of the DLCs. Easily had 100 hours in to the game. New Vegas? I played it a lot...but it wasn't my computer, and I didn't put in nearly as many hours, plus I never got to play any of the DLCs. So I may not be entirely fair to New Vegas.

    I also liked the environment of 3 more than the desert of NV. Vegas itself was pretty cool, but overall I liked 3 landscape wise. Desides mentioned already that it wasn't written very well, but it wasn't as glitchy as NV when it came out either.

    I just want another awesome Fallout game. That's all lol
     
  18. Desides

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    Most people like FO3 more than NV. It's the Fallout fans who like NV more than FO3.

    And you should definitely give NV a chance again. The DLC packs are great, particularly Lonesome Road and Old World Blues.

    Here's hoping. I want to really push my PC with a new Fallout game on an enhanced engine. New Vegas, even with super high res texture mods, isn't a challenge anymore.
     
  19. finsincebirth

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    NV was definitely my favorite. I've started 3 on several occasions, and have yet to beat it.

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  20. Silverphin

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    I do like NV over 3. I hated the crap out of some of the glitches (especially the one during Raul's quest).

    What I would like to see is a world that is... how do I say this.... a step towards the right direction (as in, it seems as if the world is getting back on its feet).
     
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    :lol:

    But it makes me wonder if this game will try to fill in those cracks, if possible.
     
  22. Desides

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    That's basically the point of NV: civilization has returned and is beginning to expand, and each civilization is coming into conflict. NV depicts a far more cohesive and organized world than Fallout 1 and 2. But I get what you mean, and I'd like to see something similar.

    Actually, what I really want is a game like Fallout but in our future rather than an alternate world where the 1950s culture never went away.
     
  23. pennphinfan

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    Mmhmm. So instead of magazines or books you collect podcasts, the unsettling jazz music is replaced with taylor swift pop, and instead of a religious cult of zombie faced mutants, they are tom cruise clone scientologists... sounds... exhilarating
     
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    I'm guessing it's because geographically, is relative to Fallout 1 and 2, as well as return of Republic of California.

    Plus, if I'm not mistaken, there are some references to Fallout 2.
     
  25. Desides

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    Correct. NV is developed by many of the same who worked on Fallout 2, and involves much of Fallout 2's lore.

    Numerous, including Marcus the mutant, who is a companion in Fallout 2.
     
  26. Silverphin

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    Is Fallout 2 the one where the Enclave makes an appearance?
     
  27. Desides

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    Yep. That's where they're introduced. The President Richardson referenced in FO3 is the Enclave leader in FO2.
     
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    Ah, yes. Now I recall. I actually used it as my main pitch to people when I was trying to get them to pre-order it. Worked on almost everybody who played original Fallouts. Of course problem with that is there wasn't too many people who were familiar with original Fallouts.

    I want to, I really do...but I want to play it on PC, and I'm not going to have a PC for a while. I guess I can cave in and just play it on the PS3. It's just gonna be weird. Would you suggest playing it on the PS3, or wait it out?
     
  29. Desides

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    Right, that's the problem, that the people who like FO3 aren't really Fallout series fans, they're just FO3 fans.

    It's worth waiting for.
     
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    It's funny you say that, I looked up the Deluxe Edition online, and I found them for $20. I think i'll order it when I get home. That's just too sweet of a deal.
     
  31. Desides

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    Well, at least they patched the console versions to some form of stability. :lol: Enjoy.
     
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    Yeah...i'll let it patch before going out or something lol. It will be a WHILE.
     
  33. MonstBlitz

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    Just started Fallout NV. I hope when they do Fallout 4 they follow suit with what Skyrim did and do away with weapon and armor repair. I forgot how much I hated that. There are ways to make a game challenging without monotonous and tedious tasks that just annoy the hell out of you and wear on your soul.
     
  34. Desides

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    I thought weapon and armor repair was an interesting mechanic, because it balanced out the ability to be a complete badass. And there are ways to reduce the rate at which your equipment degrades.

    What I really hope is that they expand on the weapon modification system.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking, more weapon modification / customization and less repair. Seems kind of the trend they followed from Oblivion to Skyrim so hoping for that to carry forward to Fallout.

    It's all a matter of preference, but due to my gaming OCD things like weapon and armor degradation just annoy me in ways that are hard to describe.
     
  36. Silverphin

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    What I would want are repeatable quests that can generate caps. Like the option to moonlight as a bounty hunter
     
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    Kids got kicked out and sent to Big Town once they turned 16. The "current" set of kids are either the product of kids post puberty but pre-16 or were brought there as small children by Big Town residents.
     
  38. Desides

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    Once you go to Big Town, you're not let back in Little Lamplight, period. And given the enmity the Big Town people have for the kids in Little Lamplight, they're not going to make the trip back there to drop off their newborn babies.

    It's a nonsensical scenario, one of many in FO3.
     
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    From the Fallout wiki. I'm sure you have a valid point about other portions of the game (though I can't recall any glaring leaps of logic, probably because its been a while since I played and my suspension of disbelief is much higher for this type of game than say COD), but this particular one has been explained.
     
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    There is no such quote on the Fallout Wiki article about Little Lamplight.

    This isn't a suspension of disbelief issue. This is a bad writing issue.
     

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