Ex-NFL exec: Refs handled call right
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it's on espn.com
Yeah, they called it right because it's ok to assume someone scored a TD instead of making sure he really did. ****ing idiots.

They handled what happened after the replay right, however they did not get the call right
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"Ronnie Bass wrote:
Yeah, they called it right because it's ok to assume someone scored a TD instead of making sure he really did. ****ing idiots.
I go back to my original arguement.
The MOST important thing in regards to a Touchdown, the ball HAS to cross the plane of the goal line right? In order for it to be a Touchdown, a player HAS to have control of the ball... Its painfully obvious that was not even remotely close to being possible because Rapelisburger lost it 2 yards shy of said plane.
The argument is that there IS not argument
Noooooo...The refs suck the steelers **** and should be blasted in the ass with fines.
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"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
They handled what happened after the replay right, however they did not get the call right
Exactly! Why would the ref, who was looking at Ben's back and couldn't even see the ball until it was loose, call it a TD? He raised his hands when Ben was in the air and assumed he was going to make it! He assumed he was in, therefore he blantanly, negligently and maliciously made the wrong call.
How many times have you all seen the two refs on the goal line, run to where the player is down before either calling the TD or placing the ball outside of the end zone? EVERY SINGLE PHUCKING WEEK! I've NEVER seen a ref call a TD when he couldn't possibly see the ball. Never!
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"MarinePhinFan wrote:
Exactly! Why would the ref, who was looking at Ben's back and couldn't even see the ball until it was loose, call it a TD? He raised his hands when Ben was in the air and assumed he was going to make it! He assumed he was in, therefore he blantanly, negligently and maliciously made the wrong call.
How many times have you all seen the two refs on the goal line, run to where the player is down before either calling the TD or placing the ball outside of the end zone? EVERY SINGLE PHUCKING WEEK! I've NEVER seen a ref call a TD when he couldn't possibly see the ball. Never!
That is/was my biggest gripe too MPF. WTF would the line judge (on the right side) rule it a TD when Rothlessburger had his back to him (thereby obscuring where the ball was in relation to the goal line)? And, why in the hell didn't the back judge come running in to see who recovered the ball? He just stood there as if in a daze. He had to see the ball come loose.
Bottom line, IMO there's no excuse for the crew not verifying who recovered the ball. It was obviously a bang/bang play at the goal line. Any ref worth his salt knows it's either a TD or a touch back. So, just DETERMINE WHO HAD POSSESSION YA FRIGGIN' IDIOTS! :pity:
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"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
They handled what happened after the replay right, however they did not get the call right
They only got the call right because they botched the first call. That's the problem with many of the NFL rules. They are designed in a way where logic or the correct call sometimes is not allowed by the rules.
"standup42003 wrote:
it's on espn.com
Is that you, Steratore?
The lack of accountability in NFL officiating has got to be the biggest joke in any professional sport. The Steelers are one of the NFL's darling franchises. The NFL and the media will side with them every day of the week no matter what actually happens. I'm not even sure Brady and the Pats could get more favorable treatment.
"The G Man wrote:
That is/was my biggest gripe too MPF. WTF would the line judge (on the right side) rule it a TD when Rothlessburger had his back to him (thereby obscuring where the ball was in relation to the goal line)? And, why in the hell didn't the back judge come running in to see who recovered the ball? He just stood there as if in a daze. He had to see the ball come loose.
This is the guy that needed to face the reporters and cameras and answer what the HELL he could have possibly seen to signal a TD.
This assclown should be suspended and fined so he can't collect on this past weekends work or abortion if I may say so.

"standup42003 wrote:
it's on espn.com
The NFL only said that the Ref went thru the right prossess. They did not say they got the call correct!
Why?
Because they did not get it right thats why.
There are plenty of reasons why the Dolphins lost the game but this is also one of them. It cannot be denied.
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"muscle979 wrote:
The lack of accountability in NFL officiating has got to be the biggest joke in any professional sport. The Steelers are one of the NFL's darling franchises. The NFL and the media will side with them every day of the week no matter what actually happens. I'm not even sure Brady and the Pats could get more favorable treatment.
Like the time Polamalu's INT against the Colts in the playoff game got overturned? How about when 52 seconds were added against the patriots and it helped them win...Or the Bettis coin flip game....Jesus keep talking out of your ass...It's actually quite funny.
"standup42003 wrote:
it's on espn.com
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
They handled what happened after the replay right, however they did not get the call right
They sure didn't and had they done their job 100 percent correct all the refs would have been on, in and around that pile to see who came up with it.
But no! Instead you see the same ref, the one who gave the explaination on TV, instead he is seen running away from it, calling it a TD. His job was to weigh all options.
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"Ozzy wrote:
They sure didn't and had they done their job 100 percent correct all the refs would have been on, in and around that pile to see who came up with it.
But no! Instead you see the same ref, the one who gave the explaination on TV, instead he is seen running away from it, calling it a TD. His job was to weigh all options.
I didn't say the did their job 100 percent correct. They did their job correct right when the replay was called.
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"standup42003 wrote:
it's on espn.com
Whatever helps them sleep at night. It was the worst failure by an official I have ever seen.
This is where I think it's such an uphill battle for Dolphins fans. They did handle the replay right -- they actually applied the rule and avoided the guessing game some officials would have gotten into. They completely failed to do their job leading up to that, and replay only works when officials have done their job the best they can and still need extra review. We got screwed by the field officials on the field, not with the ref and the booth guy.
Oh really.
Touchdown: When any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, breaks the plane of the opponent’s goal line, provided it is not a touchback.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitions
The official called a TD when there was no way he could have possibly seen the ball break the plane of the goal line from his angle. How on earth is that the correct call?
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I think I saw that spot. Notice how they explained the call but cut the clip short of the recovery...So lame.

"standup42003 wrote:
Like the time Polamalu's INT against the Colts in the playoff game got overturned? How about when 52 seconds were added against the patriots and it helped them win...Or the Bettis coin flip game....Jesus keep talking out of your ass...It's actually quite funny.
Superbowl against the Seahawks.....next subject.
Lol. What a farce. Just sweep that W right under the rug. Refs are above the law.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
Honestly, you know what pisses me off? The NFL does jack about it. I've never heard of a ref getting fired, suspended, or even fined for the calls that are blown.
What is worst thing that could happen for them? They might miss the chance at reffing the Super Bowl. Which would seem like a great incentive except the way the referees have been handling the officiating as of the last few years, you might as well call up some fans, give them a week to study the rule book, and pick from that bunch because they seem to do a better job at reviewing a simple replay than a bunch of people of who are paid to spot simple mistakes.
I guess that's what's angering me the most. Not so much the fact that referees blow calls, but they continually blow crucial calls without even a league reprimand.
After further review I have determined that this guy is a DOUCHER.
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"Silverphin wrote:
Honestly, you know what pisses me off? The NFL does jack about it. I've never heard of a ref getting fired, suspended, or even fined for the calls that are blown.
What is worst thing that could happen for them? They might miss the chance at reffing the Super Bowl. Which would seem like a great incentive except the way the referees have been handling the officiating as of the last few years, you might as well call up some fans, give them a week to study the rule book, and pick from that bunch because they seem to do a better job at reviewing a simple replay than a bunch of people of who are paid to spot simple mistakes.
I guess that's what's angering me the most. Not so much the fact that referees blow calls, but they continually blow crucial calls without even a league reprimand.
I'm guessing in the Official NFL Rulebook, it states that refs are liable to interpret the rules however they wish without consequence.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
They handled what happened after the replay right, however they did not get the call right
Thats exactly it. Steratore called it right according to the rulebook. However prior to that, was the real mistake. Which was him calling it a TD, instead of ruling it a fumble, allowing the play to play out then determine who had possession and allowing them to challenge it was a TD later.
I can see it now, the NFL eventually will make a statement about the game that says it was called right, and completely ignore the fact that the call on the feel was 110% wrong. typical PR spin.
Same with the Steratore call on the Lions' Johnson in week one. Called right the the rule book, but that doesn't make it right. Common sense in that case determines its a TD. Shame the rulebook is so flawed.

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