espn acusses dolphins of tanking .

"Medieval954 wrote:

made me laugh

ESPN is a joke from a reporting standpoint for the most point. They are an entertainment organization (see the Lebron fiasco) and need to create buzz. The bigger the buzz the more sheep watch their ****. So basically they put out sheep ****.

They're not tanking the season, they're picking their battles. They just haven't chosen one yet...

Greeney is an *sshole. He predicted miami would win 3 games and before halfway mark we have no wins and we're tanking the season? What a *ick. Meanwhile colts were predicted what? 10 wins? And they are 0-7? But they aren't tanking. Listen, its all because they all know miami wants a franchise qb since Marino retired. So they can't help themselves being *icks about this. I would pummel that 80lb weakling if I see him.

At this juncture what good would come?Will these players suddenly respond to a new coach or are they just mailing it in ?I think right now we don't have the players to perform at a high enough level to win consistantly but I don't think it's a lack of effort on the them.
Who are they going to make the interim coach?It would most likely come from within and I can't see anyone there doing anything different or better.

I could care less what ESPN thinks, feels, or reports. That network jumped the shark about 5 years ago.

"PSG wrote:

Agreed. I like Cowherd's show too.

:tongue2:

"mbmonk wrote:

I could care less what ESPN thinks, feels, or reports. That network jumped the shark about 5 years ago.

Was Brady Fonzie and Belichek Mr. C?

"Aquafin wrote:

Well We all know that Miami is the most disliked team in the afc east but with Mike and Mike acussing the phins of tanking the season to get Luck it seems like no one acusses the colts or the cowboys or even cincinattii of tanking it , so why is Miami the team that is be accused of doing something that other teams had done over and over ? Could it be that espn is trying to destroy the miami orginzation in order to go give the other afc east teams more prestige ? I cant beleive that to be true but with the venom towards miami multiplying It sure seems like espn is trying to get a investigation started.My opinion in public we shouldnt want to finish in a minus 500 season but in private the team should hope for the oportunity to get Luck.with Goodell being a puppet of Kraft I think Miami needs to be carefull and not force the comish to take any picks away from us or it will be like the death penalty in college football.a side note I hope that Miami can trade down and get 5 extra draft picks and get a tight end , another big time wr and and get a big time ccornnerback and then look at QB Weeden who is able to make most of the throws a qb is asked to do .so back to the subjet is espn just trying to screw the phins orginazation or is this two yardbirds running their mouths to please the afc east rivials fan base ?

why would anyone accuse the cowboys of tanking anyways ?

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Mike and Mike simply put together some of the moves, this offseason and season that might support the accusation of the organization purposely tanking the season for the coveted #1 overall pick....let's see....

1) you could say this might have started the moment that Jim Harbaugh said he'd rather stay on the left coast back in January... With the looming lockout, there was no longer any point to change coaching staffs.

2) At that point, the current guys (Sparano and his staff) were rendered 'lame ducks' and lost any teeth they may have had with the organization, despite the contract extension...

3) Ireland could have used some of our future picks to move up in the 2011 draft to get a better player or QB...he didn't.

4) FF to August, Ireland made the move for Orton and it's widely reported that Ross nixed that idea because of the cost ? Maybe, maybe not.

5) It appears no other moves or feelers are put out to acquire any other QB. Decision made to stick with Moore as the backup.

6) FA was rather quiet for us. Bush and Burnett were the high/low lights. Crowder was dumped. What was the reason for that ?? Because of Burnett ?? I don't think so...there's more there, given that Crowder has been hammering the regime at every opportunity he gets...

7) They acquire Bush and apparently promise him he'll be the feature back. Even the least of fans can see that likely won't work. Do we change things up ?? No...

8) Despite the coachspeak from earlier in the offseason, Sparano really doesn't do things differently on offense. There are minor changes to the O with Daboll, but we are still a run first team.

9) Things start off badly for the team, despite a decent showing by the O in the season opener. However, as we've progressed from the PS, things continue to worsen. Davis hurt for 4 or 5 games, the decision to force Jones in as the FS, Thomas hurt, etc.

10) Henne knocked out and there is still an option to acquire Orton but no move is made. Decision to stick with Moore.

***NOTE: I am very, very glad that they didn't make a move to acquire Orton. I am not now, nor was I ever a proponent of that move. IMO, that would have certainly set the organization back, whether Sparano is here next season or not..***

11) Bye week comes and no move made regarding the staff, despite a continued fade from mediocre to poor team performance... No changes in personnel, no changes of starters. What direction is this team going in ?? Fans don't know...

12) Sparano gets the dreaded "Vote of confidence" from Ross.

13) Dissension starts to leak from the player ranks. Comments by Marshall, Bess, Burnett, Bell and Dansby sound ominous of Sparano starting to lose the locker room. I don't think he has just yet, but it could come at any time now...minus a win...

14) Potentially, suspiciously maybe, Gruden signs an extension with ABC that may preclude him from leaving at least this coming year ??

15) Reports of Ross making contact with Cowher. Naturally, it's denied and rightfully so, whether it took place or not. Could he have also made contact with Gruden and that's how the extension from ABC comes about ??

You tell me...is there not reason to believe that Ross has decided that not doing anything is better than trying to fix the leaking ship ?? Now, let's be honest...many of these things could be coincidence or things that had to be done at the particular time they were done. But there is a lot of evidence that Ross is in the 'do nothing' mode until this season is over which to the media, coaches, players and fans equates to tanking the season purposefully....

I dont know HOW you could forget....................the Dolphins sign Losman to be the back up QB......good gracious what a signing. When I heard THAT.........I started to wonder if ALL OF THIS was on purpose.

have they ever had a pop at Detroit for being perrenial suck merchants? They had Barry Sanders once for crips sake! Now they have a QB and they are contesting.. Hmmmm.

Laryfinfan you made a good point

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Mike and Mike simply put together some of the moves, this offseason and season that might support the accusation of the organization purposely tanking the season for the coveted #1 overall pick....let's see....

1) you could say this might have started the moment that Jim Harbaugh said he'd rather stay on the left coast back in January... With the looming lockout, there was no longer any point to change coaching staffs.

2) At that point, the current guys (Sparano and his staff) were rendered 'lame ducks' and lost any teeth they may have had with the organization, despite the contract extension...

3) Ireland could have used some of our future picks to move up in the 2011 draft to get a better player or QB...he didn't.

4) FF to August, Ireland made the move for Orton and it's widely reported that Ross nixed that idea because of the cost ? Maybe, maybe not.

5) It appears no other moves or feelers are put out to acquire any other QB. Decision made to stick with Moore as the backup.

6) FA was rather quiet for us. Bush and Burnett were the high/low lights. Crowder was dumped. What was the reason for that ?? Because of Burnett ?? I don't think so...there's more there, given that Crowder has been hammering the regime at every opportunity he gets...

7) They acquire Bush and apparently promise him he'll be the feature back. Even the least of fans can see that likely won't work. Do we change things up ?? No...

8) Despite the coachspeak from earlier in the offseason, Sparano really doesn't do things differently on offense. There are minor changes to the O with Daboll, but we are still a run first team.

9) Things start off badly for the team, despite a decent showing by the O in the season opener. However, as we've progressed from the PS, things continue to worsen. Davis hurt for 4 or 5 games, the decision to force Jones in as the FS, Thomas hurt, etc.

10) Henne knocked out and there is still an option to acquire Orton but no move is made. Decision to stick with Moore.

***NOTE: I am very, very glad that they didn't make a move to acquire Orton. I am not now, nor was I ever a proponent of that move. IMO, that would have certainly set the organization back, whether Sparano is here next season or not..***

11) Bye week comes and no move made regarding the staff, despite a continued fade from mediocre to poor team performance... No changes in personnel, no changes of starters. What direction is this team going in ?? Fans don't know...

12) Sparano gets the dreaded "Vote of confidence" from Ross.

13) Dissension starts to leak from the player ranks. Comments by Marshall, Bess, Burnett, Bell and Dansby sound ominous of Sparano starting to lose the locker room. I don't think he has just yet, but it could come at any time now...minus a win...

14) Potentially, suspiciously maybe, Gruden signs an extension with ABC that may preclude him from leaving at least this coming year ??

15) Reports of Ross making contact with Cowher. Naturally, it's denied and rightfully so, whether it took place or not. Could he have also made contact with Gruden and that's how the extension from ABC comes about ??

You tell me...is there not reason to believe that Ross has decided that not doing anything is better than trying to fix the leaking ship ?? Now, let's be honest...many of these things could be coincidence or things that had to be done at the particular time they were done. But there is a lot of evidence that Ross is in the 'do nothing' mode until this season is over which to the media, coaches, players and fans equates to tanking the season purposefully....

Making bad decisions doesn't mean you did anything on purpose. Ross and Ireland screwed up this year but honestly the notion that they did it intentionally to get the number one overall is just silly. I think letting the team and coaching staff ride the season out isn't tanking, throwing away draft picks or pursuing stop gap Qbs, etc is detrimental to the team's future. A owner should not be suspected of tanking a year because he won't spend money or draft picks foolishly just to appease idiots who think we might be tanking. He made the right call not going after Orton and making bad trades in order to make a horrible team slightly less horrible. Ross should be doing what is best for the organization not what appease Mike and Mike or idiot fans.

"unifiedtheory wrote:

We are not "tanking".

Does anyone really think Sparano is trying to lose games so the next guy is set up with a franchise quarterback? This is the NFL. Every player is killing it because he does not have a guaranteed contract. If you are not trying to do your best you can get seriously injured playing this sport. Anyone think Ireland is trying to lose games? He built a crappy team on purpose and got all the payers on board and the coaches on board so they can have the #1 pick? What does that do for him? If they are bad enough he is fired.

We are not tanking, we are just bad.

you would think this doesn't need to be said, but it does with the morons {jaworski} that are out there that don't get it.

"PSG wrote:

Agreed. I like Cowherd's show too.

I used to listen to that show before I got tired of his voice. It was like Chris Collinsworth's, which kills me.

"lmeister3 wrote:

I dunno, Cowherd seems pretty objective.

Love his show.

And he applauds fans who are onboard with Suck for Luck.

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I could care less what Mike and Mike say about the Dolphins. One is a huge Jet fan and the other is merely a has been NFL player who will say anything to create talk about his show. The fact is that the smartest thing the Dolphins could do now is to tank the rest of this season. This team is going nowhere in the foreseeable future without a franchise QB. The one sure franchise QB available in the draft is Luck. While quarterbacks like Landry Jones, and Matt Barkley may turn out to be franchise type QB's, the overall consensus is that Luck is about as much of a sure thing at the QB position has come out of college since Manning, or Elway.

While some on here done want the Dolphins to tank this season and be able to draft Luck. It will be these same individuals a few years from now who will be writing on here that in hindsight they wish the Dolphins had gotten Luck in the draft.

They are morons. It's clear the Dolphins are trying. The Colts....that's another story. David Garrard would've helped them. It's baffling why they didn't go for him...the owner probably wants Luck OR wants to get a ton of draft picks for him and deep down is hoping they lose.

I have a feeling the Colts would trade 1st pick for like 3 1st rounders and 2 2nds or something...try and win another Super Bowl with Manning in next 4 years.

Nice how we keep giving them ammunition though.....:lol:

lets hope that scenario is not with the dolphins

Very disappointed in Sparano falling apart like he is. I will support him to the end though and I will never root against the phins.....Luck or not

It is obvious the players are trying. The coaching is just not there. Nolan I am very disappointed in as well. Better pass rush for part of the game. Then JT and Wake got tired we had no answer...that is coaching and scheme.

"Dolphins1Beatles wrote:

They are morons. It's clear the Dolphins are trying. The Colts....that's another story. David Garrard would've helped them. It's baffling why they didn't go for him...the owner probably wants Luck OR wants to get a ton of draft picks for him and deep down is hoping they lose.

I have a feeling the Colts would trade 1st pick for like 3 1st rounders and 2 2nds or something...try and win another Super Bowl with Manning in next 4 years.

really?? He condones tanking on purpose. Don't watch the show.....very surprised.....wow

"Muck wrote:

Love his show.

And he applauds fans who are onboard with Suck for Luck.

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"2socks wrote:

really?? He condones tanking on purpose. Don't watch the show.....very surprised.....wow

Basically, he condones common sense.

"2socks wrote:

really?? He condones tanking on purpose. Don't watch the show.....very surprised.....wow

SFL isnt tanking on purpose....SFL is Fans praying they secure Andrew Luck in the draft. Thats it....Suck to Secure Luck from a fan's perspective.

Has ZERO to do with play on field and what the PLAYERS and COACHES actually control. Fans do not control the play on the field.

Cowherd has said, yes, rooting for your team to IMPROVE by acquiring the best possible talent is smart move.

If the play on the field equates to that, so be it...nothing we can do.

"lmeister3 wrote:

Basically, he condones common sense.

I get the tanking on purpose part. From a fan perspective I just cannot ever "hope" the Phins loose. I saw the writing on the wall at the end of the second quarter when they marched down the field and scored, making it 14-10. I knew we were going to loose. Even so I didn't stop rooting. I have just become numb now so loosing doesn't really bother me anymore like it used to. I would break sh*t before.

I'm happy with a close loss like this. Shows we have enough talent to almost be there, but are missing key elements, namely: Franchise QB and coaching. If we had those two things, I'd bet we beat the Browns, Broncos, Giants, and possibly Chargers. Maybe even Jets, that game we had golden opportunities in the first half, and had to kick FGs or turned the ball over in the red zone. It's a Game Changer. That's why we're so high on Luck. (Yes, we need to fix O-Line and Secondary, but Franchise QB and a Great coaching staff? BIG improvement right away.)

We'll hopefully be getting both in 2012. But we need to go 1-15 at least. We have to keep watching the Colts though.