Entire Seahawks Team May Sit During Anthem
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Shane FalcoNew Member"GARDENHEAD wrote:
No it doesn't. But that's cool. You need to believe that so you can tell yourself you're not a racist.
BLM is a racist group. Hate to break it to you.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
Exactly, in the vast majority of the police shootings the person who got shot was not obeying the police. It's really not this hard, is it? But we have raised our children to be disrespectful to authority and have bestowed upon them a sense of entitlement. Our society is going downhill at a frightening pace.
Listen to the police, follow the law and you won't get shot. I guarantee it.
I watched a video of a guy following the law, being respectful and getting shot. Your guarantee did not help him.
Also, I do not want to live in a Judge Dread world where being disrespectful to authority is grounds for death.
This is America. We exist because we were disrespectful to authority. Heck, we were founded by people who were disrespectful to auhtority.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Fin Dforum_veteran"Rick 1966 wrote:
The owners own the team and set the terms of employment. The first amendment prohibits the government from limiting your right to free speech, it says NOTHING about private individuals or companies. Companies limit their employee's rights to free speech all the time. You sign non-disclosure agreements, you can't say certain things in public while on the job, you can't say offensive things or you might get fired. This is no different. If the owner of the team doesn't want them doing this or the NFL owners in general rule against it, they have no legal recourse and no civil recourse either since they signed the CBA.
Forcing people to salute a flag, say a pledge, or stand for the anthem is 100000000000 times more unAmerican than not doing those things.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
BLM is a racist group. Hate to break it to you.
You need to believe that so you can tell yourself you're not a racist.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
- MLK
Yes he said that in what 1963?
Hint its not 1963
Shane FalcoNew Member"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
I watched a video of a guy following the law, being respectful and getting shot. Your guarantee did not help him.
Also, I do not want to live in a Judge Dread world where being disrespectful to authority is grounds for death.
This is America. We exist because we were disrespectful to authority. Heck, we were founded by people who were disrespectful to auhtority.
Name the guy. Philando Castile didn't put his hands up when ordered several times. And he had a gun.
Post the video.
Fin Dforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
BLM is a racist group. Hate to break it to you.
No they aren't.
They want cops to stop shooting unarmed black people. There's nothing racist about that.
Are there racist BLM members? Surely. What's funny is that you guys say not all cops should be held responsible for what a few bad apples do, but you don't follow that advice with BLM.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"LiferYank wrote:
Yes he said that in what 1963?
Hint its not 1963
Still the same today.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Rocky Raccoonmoderator"Fin D wrote:
Forcing people to salute a flag, say a pledge, or stand for the anthem is 100000000000 times more unAmerican than not doing those things.
Another point that people can't grasp. Having the freedom to make our own choices and not having to be forced to do things is what makes America what it is.
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
Still the same today.
Again faulty perception put down instead of factual information.
Shane FalcoNew Member"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
You need to believe that so you can tell yourself you're not a racist.
Keep trying. Blacks are really the racists. Sorry but Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton etc. want it that way.
There are black only schools, black history month etc.
If there was EVER a white only school, or white history month, they would lose their minds.
Come on man.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
Name the guy. Philando Castile didn't put his hands up when ordered several times. And he had a gun.
Post the video.
Charles Kinsey
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
Keep trying. Blacks are really the racists. Sorry but Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton etc. want it that way.
There are black only schools, black history month etc.
If there was EVER a white only school, or white history month, they would lose their minds.
Come on man.
Oh to be brainwashed.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Shane FalcoNew Member"Fin D wrote:
No they aren't.
They want cops to stop shooting unarmed black people. There's nothing racist about that.
Are there racist BLM members? Surely. What's funny is that you guys say not all cops should be held responsible for what a few bad apples do, but you don't follow that advice with BLM.
They protest legitimate shootings, and encourage violence against the police. They are the Black Panthers v 2.0
Nobody gets shot for nothing, although that's what the media wants you believe.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"LiferYank wrote:
Again faulty perception put down instead of factual information.
That is your MO.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
Oh to be brainwashed.
More of this empathy and tolerance eh?
Shane FalcoNew Member"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
Charles Kinsey
The police admitted it was a mistake, blame the idiot who called 911 about a guy holding a toy truck.
Keep reaching.
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
That is your MO.
Nice attempt to project i am not saying the country is the same as it was in 1963 that is you.
Shane FalcoNew MemberAn employer has the right to run his business and if he says you stand for the national anthem, you stand, or face the consequences.
I would love to see an owner grow a pair and bench one of these fools.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"LiferYank wrote:
Nice attempt to project i am not saying the country is the same as it was in 1963 that is you.
O.K. It is not exactly the same, but the words still ring true. MLK is not this man that you project.
The thing that would disappoint him the most is the fact that BLM is not great at P.R. MLK and the civil rights movement at the time was excellent at P.R. and strategy. Something that is not mentioned much in the history books.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
"Shane Falco wrote:
An employer has the right to run his business and if he says you stand for the national anthem, you stand, or face the consequences.
I would love to see an owner grow a pair and bench one of these fools.
That owner would also face a public backlash from those that disagree.. Isnt freedom wonderful!
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Shane Falco wrote:
An employer has the right to run his business and if he says you stand for the national anthem, you stand, or face the consequences.
I would love to see an owner grow a pair and bench one of these fools.
That is against the CBA
That is also against the ideals of the United States of America.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"LiferYank wrote:
That owner would also face a public backlash from those that disagree.. Isnt freedom wonderful!
I think freedom is pretty cool.
I enjoy it.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
KeyFinforum_veteranI've been dying to say this somewhere for months now so I guess I'll say it here- the black lives protest only guarantees that black lives do not matter. They're a racist hate group just looking for other people to solve their problems instead of being men and fixing things themselves- like teaching kids to be disrespectful to the police, to never "snitch" on people poisoning their community with drugs and violence, and by encouraging hatred above all else.
What do you think happens when you commit crimes? The police take your butt to jail. And if you attack a cop, then you might get your butt shot. My kids know that...why is it so shocking to other communities that this happens? I'll tell you why- because some parents don't raise their kids and they turn into pieces of garbage walking the streets and preaching "the thug life". But guess what...they're still in America and cops still have an impossible job to do in those areas. If you're a criminal, then the police will approach you TO TALK...and your attitude decides what comes next.
If black lives mattered to the black community, then NONE OF THIS would be happening and parents would be beating the brakes off these young kids hind ends when they're 12 and 14 years old going down the wrong path. They'd make sure that their kids were getting a good education and showing respect for everyone, and they'd be giving them a solid work ethic so they could get jobs and succeed in life. But when none of that happens, you have a select few who plague society, get into confrontations and eventually get shot.....by other thugs 99% of the time.
But we don't talk about that....it's only the 1 tenth of 1% that get shot by cops....and that's a movement now?
I'm sorry folks, but it's just a lie in order to avoid the real truth. So needless to say, I am against all these athletes protesting because they're essentially endorsing bad parenting, crime, and racist hate. That's not a government or even a community issue...these problems start at home and plague entire communities.
And one more thing- there are crappy cops out there that abuse the system. I'm not trying to deny that for a second. But there are a million times more thugs out there than there are bad cops, so let's focus on what can really solve this problem in the first place. It's definitely not the po-po. And I'm not saying the problem is all blacks either...it's also a small minority that is perfectly okay with crime and letting their kids run wild. But that's where the problem starts and ends...make no mistake.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
O.K. It is not exactly the same, but the words still ring true. MLK is not this man that you project.
The thing that would disappoint him the most is the fact that BLM is not great at P.R. MLK and the civil rights movement at the time was excellent at P.R. and strategy. Something that is not mentioned much in the history books.
MLK went the peaceful path. Other groups at the time not so much. I respect him greatly for that. MLK would be completely against this "Whiteness" nonsense. He would be against colleges offering housing to groups to make them feel "safe".
He wanted every one of us to be judged by our deeds NOT our skin color.
We are going backwards right now.
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