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Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by Galant, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    If you look at the 4 major measures of team performance yards gained, yards, allowed, points scored and points allowed Adam Gase has been less successful than Joe Philbin.
    For simplicity let’s look at rankings.

    Adam Gase
    Year 16 - 17 - 18. (AVGE)
    PF....17 - 28 - 26..(23.6)
    PA....18 - 29 - 27..(24.6)
    YF.....24 - 25 - 31..(26.0)
    YA....29 - 16 - 29..(26.6)

    Average of the rankings 22 in ‘16; 27 in ‘17; and 28.25 in ‘18.

    Joe Philbin
    Year 12 - 13 - 14 - 15..(AVGE)
    PF....27 - 26 - 11 - 27 (22.75)
    PA....7 - 8 - 20 - 19 (13.5)
    YF....27 - 27 - 14 - 26 (23.0)
    YA....21 - 21 - 12 - 25 (19.25)

    Average of ranking 20.5 in ‘12; 20.5 in ‘13; 14.25 in ‘14 and 24.0 in ‘15.

    Only in Philbin’s worst year was his average ranking worse than Gase’s best year. There is no category where Gase averaged a higher league rank than Philbin. And let’s face it Joe Philbin is a pretty low bar to clear.
     
  2. Miamiforlife

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    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.…
     
  3. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Unless Gase takes time to reflect on his mistakes in Miami, he'll crash and burn with the Jets. I hope he does. I want to see bubble screens and draws on third and long from the Jets -not any serious attempt to get first downs.
     
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  4. Mike8272

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    Could Gase be successful with the Jets? Sure, but that is irrelevant to us because there's no guarantee he would have been successful with us had he stayed. Ok he could have done better with a new QB, but we'll never know. Our team made a decision based on the evidence it had available to.them, and they felt that Gase was not the right guy to lead to our team, so whatever he does elsewhere is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

    With that said, like Deus said, if he hasn't taken time to reflect and learn from his time with us, he won't turn the Jets around. Gase strikes me as a stubborn and arrogant individual, so I'm not convinced he is going to change significantly based off how he presents himself. I think he will be more likely to think he was doing things right here and our decision makers were doing things wrong and made the wrong decision to fire him, than him admit his shortcomings. But that just how I see it.
     
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  5. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  6. AGuyNamedAlex

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    Honestly not sure how I feel about this.
     
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  7. BicketyBam

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    This has the potential to be a disaster for either the Jets or the Dolphins. On one hand, you guys can get a good laugh for 3 years and then he gets fired again. On the other hand he could become a coaching fixture in the AFCE and paired with Darnold he has great success. That would be a nightmare for you guys, lol.

    As a Jets fan I am leery of the hire. I didn't have a clear title and candidate that I wanted but I did t want to hire McCarthy as I think he is nothing more than an average to slightly above average coach. I wanted someone with a higher ceiling so in that regard I'm happy.
     
  8. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I didn't think Gase was horrible and I think he deserved at least one more year, preferably with a healthy QB of some sort.
    I still think he has the potential to be a very good coach, so my guess here is that he poses us problems in the long run -but the depends on his relationship with the Jets ownership and GM. There was some sort of clash there that ended things here in Miami. If whatever that is doesn't work better - or if the Jets FO doesn't improve - then he'll be moving on again.
     
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  9. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  10. mbsinmisc

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    Good riddance. The "genius" whose only success was riding Manning's jock. He is arrogant and convinced he is the smartest guy in the room. I hate the Jets and I am glad they hired this bum.
     
  11. BicketyBam

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    Guy won 7 games with one of the worst rosters in the league. He beat Chicago with Brock Osweiler. He's Vince Lombardi compared to Todd Bowles.
     
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  12. BicketyBam

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    I like his upside and at the very least it will really put some juice in the Jets/Dolphins rivalry.
     
  13. Not So Fast

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    I find it puzzling that the Jets would let their top candidate go because he didn't like the assistants they wanted him to hire. If you value the coach that much to bill him as your top candidate, why not let him pick who he wants to work with?
     
  14. BicketyBam

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    I don't think he was their top candidate. I think it was McCarthy and he was just asking for too much in terms of money and power.
     
  15. Vertical Limit

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    If Gase is going to improve in NY, he has to start by delegating offensive calls to the coordinator, he is going to need to stop making excuses because the NY media will eat his *** alive. The media barely covers Miami, they will put you on blast for placing blame on injuries and your backup players (throwing your backups under the bus). And philosophy wise he cant be a *****, be more aggressive, stop with the stupid run plays at 3rd and long or screen plays that dont even make it past the chains.

    My guess is he will continue to be the same. Might start aggressive at first to prove theyre wrong about him but his cowardness will come out and he will call plays with fear.
     
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  16. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  17. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets

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    I haven't weighed in on Gase yet. I don't think he is a bad coach honestly. He is a terrible leader however. And that's the HC main job, leadership. Coordinators coach. Head Coaches lead and Gase is not a leader of men. Jesters and the NY media and fans are going to rip him to shreds in a year.
     
  18. Finatik

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    Wow. He's bringing in his Offensive coordinator with him. I guess that's a good thing for the Dolphins since we were so bad on Offense.
     
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  19. Finatik

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    Sorry didn't see the other post below. Repeat can be deleted.
     
  20. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Post of the year on the Jets board:

    "DarrelleRevis.Human? said:
    This might just edge out the day my father died as being the saddest day of my life."
     
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  21. texanphinatic

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    Mildly interesting:


    Two of the guys on the Packers interviewed list? Adam Gase and Brian Flores.
     
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  22. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Rodgers made that pick.
     
  23. Colmax

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    I disagree with how you are approaching this. You and I know there are way too many variables to consider these numbers the end all, be all.
     
  24. Pauly

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    I know I’m using simplified numberx. However whatever way you cut the performace of the offense and the defense they come up short except for a few exceptions. I’m really not imclined to give any slack on the injury front because (a) we wern’t exceptional on that front and (b) Gase had three years to coach up the reserves and backups.
     
  25. texanphinatic

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    What I found odd is how Murphy actually called out other candidates. Usually it's just something like "everyone was great, but we got the best" and not "this is the only one that wasn't a waste of my time". Usually there are at least some empty platitudes for the runners up.

    Good luck with your runner up Gase though after Rhule said no thanks. :up:
     
  26. BicketyBam

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    Good luck with..... with.....with....well, whenever you guys find someone who wants the job, good luck with him ;) I hear Loggains is interviewing. Solid.
     
  27. danmarino

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    lol...I think the hold up has more to do with the candidate being in the playoffs.

    And as for Loggains, courtesy interview.

    As for Gase, I did not want him in NY. He may become the bane of our future seasons.
     
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  28. texanphinatic

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    I think they are trying to block Loggains from Gase and give the new coach an option to retain him and Rizzi. Frontrunners Richard and Flores both in playoffs. Will see after the weekend.
     
  29. BicketyBam

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    Please. Block away! I don’t want him!
     
  30. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  32. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Burn!
     
  33. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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  34. Mike8272

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    I see their GM giving him a look perhaps wondering "what the hell was I thinking hiring this guy?"
     
  35. AGuyNamedAlex

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    From his eyes I think it may have been Gase providing the coke for teem meetings. Wtf was wrong with his face. He also looks about 30 years older than he did two weeks ago somehow.
     
  36. Galant

    Galant Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Is this the origin of a Batman villain....?
     
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  37. Rock Sexton

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    He's got some kind of asperger's or autism going on.
     
  38. BicketyBam

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    His interview on the Michael Kay Sow was excellent. Way better than his press conference. He claims that the Miami personnel decisions were made by him, Grier and Tannenbaum. He made it sound like it needed to unanimous.
     
  39. Ronnie Bass

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  40. Rock Sexton

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    That is easily one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen on social media. :chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:
     

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