Draft thread

"Sceeto wrote:

Ok. Now I am pissed:

https://dolphinstalk.com/2024/04/report-chris-grier-had-8-chances-to-trade-down-in-rounds-1-and-2/#:~:text=Barry Jackson of the Miami,select the player they liked.

Por que?

"Sceeto wrote:

Ok. Now I am pissed:

https://dolphinstalk.com/2024/04/report-chris-grier-had-8-chances-to-trade-down-in-rounds-1-and-2/#:~:text=Barry Jackson of the Miami,select the player they liked.

Why? We have no idea what the offers were. And based on Griers MO, he simply does not accept low value trades. It has to at least be equal on the chart or better. They had players they liked, they didn't get what they wanted to not draft them.

Huh... So, since we weren't picking until the fifth round, I stopped paying attention and just found out (as it happened) that we traded a 2025 third rounder for the Iggles fourth round pick and took

A RUNNING BACK?!!

Do we need running backs? I'm not mad, just wondering why we traded a pick for a position that is already a position of strength. I haven't criticized our drafting since we reached for Noah and blew the genius trade that brought him to us. But I have to question why this was a good move.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Seeing how Chubb tore his ACL in the last game of the regular season and rehab time is typically 9 months, Chubb’s not going to see any playing time in the first half of the season.

Phillips may or may not be ready to go week1

We lost Thor to the Vikings.

Unless Robinson is chewed up like a soup sandwich, he’ll likely see quite a bit playing time.

Here is the thing, I do think that Chop is gonna be our week 1 starter. In a weird sorta way, I do think that edge was an area of need because of injuries. Realistically, I would even tell you that an unpolished athletic guy like Chop is a considerable upgrade over almost any other option. I also think that this will help avoid the temptation of putting Phillips out there before he is ready. These are good things.

The problem is that as the season goes on, and we get healthier, Chop is gonna be less and less of a factor.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

Huh... So, since we weren't picking until the fifth round, I stopped paying attention and just found out (as it happened) that we traded a 2025 third rounder for the Iggles fourth round pick and took

A RUNNING BACK?!!

Do we need running backs? I'm not mad, just wondering why we traded a pick for a position that is already a position of strength. I haven't criticized our drafting since we reached for Noah and blew the genius trade that brought him to us. But I have to question why this was a good move.

How many backups are we gonna draft. SMH

McDaniel waited until Grier went to the restroom and took over

From cbssports.com:
Jaylen Wright RB, TENN
Height: 5-11, Weight: 210

More speed to Miami's offense. Wright ran through some gaping holes at Tennessee but has high-end acceleration once he's in the open field. Elusiveness is good, not amazing. Slashing style as opposed to jump-cut back. Would've liked to see another position addressed here, but Mike McDaniel will be happy. (Chris Trapasso)

B-

Rating: 80.97 (Starter)
Pro Comparison: Rachaad White
Summary
Jaylen Wright is a running back with great top-end speed and athleticism to jump out of the gym. Although he had limited production as a pass-catcher until 2023, Wright made obvious strides in his final season. He has great lateral agility to find the edge but struggles to work inside zone concepts. Wright has active eyes in pass protection but lacks the mass to hold up consistently. Short-yardage situations are not going to be a strength, either.

About

2023: Second-team All-SEC (AP)
2023: 7.4 rush yards per carry (led all FBS RBs with min. 120 attempts)

Strengths

Can plant and cut back with ease, good lateral agility
Great top-end speed
Good route runner, doesn't tip his breaks
Builds speed quickly

Weaknesses

Lacks lower body mass to drive piles in short-yardage situations
Active eyes in pass protection but will not sustain blocks
Average eyes working inside zone schemes

Combine Data

40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds
Vertical jump: 38 inches
Broad jump: 11 feet, 2 inches

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/draft-tracker/

From nfl.com:
Overview
Explosive back with good size and breakaway speed. Wright’s running style is more linear than free-flowing, which limits his cut smoothness and elusiveness on the second level. His vision and aggression as an interior runner are just average, but that won’t stop him from putting yards on the stat sheet. He regularly bounced runs wide and beat the pursuit around the corner, so a move to a stretch-based running attack would be a natural fit, allowing his speed to shine. He’s capable of running with power, but he will default into finesse at times. Wright’s big-play potential and talent as a pass catcher should make him a Day 2 target as a future starter.

Strengths

Sprinter’s speed for long touchdown runs once he hits the open field.
Posted an explosive run (10-plus yards) on 25.4 percent of his carries in 2023.
Sudden jump-cut creates lateral exits away from tacklers.
Linear runner but can get to change of direction with timing.
Displayed ability to stay up and drag tacklers against Texas A&M.
Natural, sticky hands with potential to run more routes than he did in college.

Weaknesses

Fumbled four times on 146 carries in 2022.
Doesn’t trust his eyes, creating indecisiveness as an inside runner.
Upright running style subjects him to bigger hits.
Lacks efficiency of movement when stacking cuts.
Will need to play with more awareness when protecting the pocket.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylen-wright/32005752-4939-8099-f6ee-7772cc125a42

"Sceeto wrote:

Ok. Now I am pissed:

https://dolphinstalk.com/2024/04/report-chris-grier-had-8-chances-to-trade-down-in-rounds-1-and-2/#:~:text=Barry Jackson of the Miami,select the player they liked.

It's because Grier is terrible with picks, look at the Tunsil stuff. Truly awful at drafting, imo.

"Fireland wrote:

McDaniel waited until Grier went to the restroom and took over

Wish he would’ve picked someone else :), don’t know anything about the guy but trading up for a RB and giving up a 3rd for a 4th rounder idk.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

From cbssports.com:
Jaylen Wright RB, TENN
Height: 5-11, Weight: 210

More speed to Miami's offense. Wright ran through some gaping holes at Tennessee but has high-end acceleration once he's in the open field. Elusiveness is good, not amazing. Slashing style as opposed to jump-cut back. Would've liked to see another position addressed here, but Mike McDaniel will be happy. (Chris Trapasso)

B-

Rating: 80.97 (Starter)
Pro Comparison: Rachaad White
Summary
Jaylen Wright is a running back with great top-end speed and athleticism to jump out of the gym. Although he had limited production as a pass-catcher until 2023, Wright made obvious strides in his final season. He has great lateral agility to find the edge but struggles to work inside zone concepts. Wright has active eyes in pass protection but lacks the mass to hold up consistently. Short-yardage situations are not going to be a strength, either.

About

• 2023: Second-team All-SEC (AP)
  2023: 7.4 rush yards per carry (led all FBS RBs with min. 120 attempts)

Strengths



Can plant and cut back with ease, good lateral agility
Great top-end speed
Good route runner, doesn't tip his breaks
Builds speed quickly

Weaknesses



Lacks lower body mass to drive piles in short-yardage situations
Active eyes in pass protection but will not sustain blocks
Average eyes working inside zone schemes

Combine Data



40-yard dash: 4.38 seconds
Vertical jump: 38 inches
Broad jump: 11 feet, 2 inches

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/draft-tracker/

From nfl.com:
Overview
Explosive back with good size and breakaway speed. Wright’s running style is more linear than free-flowing, which limits his cut smoothness and elusiveness on the second level. His vision and aggression as an interior runner are just average, but that won’t stop him from putting yards on the stat sheet. He regularly bounced runs wide and beat the pursuit around the corner, so a move to a stretch-based running attack would be a natural fit, allowing his speed to shine. He’s capable of running with power, but he will default into finesse at times. Wright’s big-play potential and talent as a pass catcher should make him a Day 2 target as a future starter.

Strengths

Sprinter’s speed for long touchdown runs once he hits the open field.
Posted an explosive run (10-plus yards) on 25.4 percent of his carries in 2023.
Sudden jump-cut creates lateral exits away from tacklers.
Linear runner but can get to change of direction with timing.
Displayed ability to stay up and drag tacklers against Texas A&M.
Natural, sticky hands with potential to run more routes than he did in college.

Weaknesses

Fumbled four times on 146 carries in 2022.
Doesn’t trust his eyes, creating indecisiveness as an inside runner.
Upright running style subjects him to bigger hits.
Lacks efficiency of movement when stacking cuts.
Will need to play with more awareness when protecting the pocket.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylen-wright/32005752-4939-8099-f6ee-7772cc125a42

Probably the Achane insurance…

"resnor wrote:

It's because Grier is terrible with picks, look at the Tunsil stuff. Truly awful at drafting, imo.

Tunsil stuff? Those picks turned into Waddle and Holland

"Fireland wrote:

Tunsil stuff? Those picks turned into Waddle and Holland

Was that where we had like 3 first round picks and three seconds and three thirds?

I might have the wrong trade. Forgive me. I'm referencing the one that he absolutely bungled

"JJ_79 wrote:

Probably the Achane insurance…

I thought that was Chris Brooks?

"resnor wrote:

Was that where we had like 3 first round picks and three seconds and three thirds?

I might have the wrong trade. Forgive me. I'm referencing the one that he absolutely bungled

One of the 3 first round picks was from Tunsil and that was Noah. Pretty bad but the next year he traded down and back up with Texans pick for Waddle. Used the second rounder from Texans on Holland. Used the extra trade down pick on Tyreek. Excellent work overall.

Maybe you are thinking of Minkah? He used that on Jackson. Mild bungle at worst.

"resnor wrote:

Was that where we had like 3 first round picks and three seconds and three thirds?

I might have the wrong trade. Forgive me. I'm referencing the one that he absolutely bungled

I don’t think he bungled any draft really, he’s just middle of the pack imo, doesn’t value actual production enough, goes for those boom or bust type of players and isn’t afraid to gamble on injury. It all comes down to next season to me, no more excuses.

Edit to Grier: and he tries to outsmart everyone to often one thing he has with McDaniel in common.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

I thought was Chris Brooks?

Brooks is a bigger back not a speedster…

"Fireland wrote:

One of the 3 first round picks was from Tunsil and that was Noah. Pretty bad but the next year he traded down and back up with Texans pick for Waddle. Used the second rounder from Texans on Holland. Used the extra trade down pick on Tyreek. Excellent work overall.

Maybe you are thinking of Minkah? He used that on Jackson. Mild bungle at worst.

Liked the trade down but didn’t like the trade up in that draft.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

I thought that was Chris Brooks?

Brooks is a bigger dude, Wilson insurance. Wright is Achane/Mostert insurance.

Salvon should make sure he's not too comfortable.

"JJ_79 wrote:

Probably the Achane insurance…

All of our running backs are variations of the same player.

"JJ_79 wrote:

Liked the trade down but didn’t like the trade up in that draft.

In hindsight would have it been better to risk it and potentially have Smith and an extra first rounder? Yeah but at the end of the day it was really great work to get the guy at 5 you were going to take at 3.

Imagine if the draft plays out different and they end up getting stuck with Toney? If you like someone sometimes you got to go get him.

"resnor wrote:

It's because Grier is terrible with picks, look at the Tunsil stuff. Truly awful at drafting, imo.

Why the silly hyperbole, what's the purpose?

And this draft says nothing if not Grier being secure in the job.

"tirty8 wrote:

All of our running backs are variations of the same player.

Brooks is a little different but agree with the rest of them although Mostert runs with vengeance but he’s getting up there in age for a RB.

"texanphinatic wrote:

And this draft says nothing if not Grier being secure in the job.

Sadly I agree with that, but let’s wait and see how the season plays along.

"Fireland wrote:

In hindsight would have it been better to risk it and potentially have Smith and an extra first rounder? Yeah but at the end of the day it was really great work to get the guy at 5 you were going to take at 3.

Imagine if the draft plays out different and they end up getting stuck with Toney? If you like someone sometimes you got to go get him.

With not having Tyreek at that time, you‘ve got a point there but I would still rather have Smith plus the 1rd or another player from that draft.

Wow. We could have gotten a third or fourth back.