Draft Tek updated mock 1/1/13

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  1. mroz

    mroz Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    IT is an area of need… lol
     
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  2. ToddPhin

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    you would? In what way? Flirtatiously? lol
     
  3. padre31

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    Cayate' la boca pendajo!

    :lol:

    Geez Lucky, don't curse us like that, it's just plain mean.
     
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  4. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Pods, your Spanish is remarkable. Did you spend a year in Mexico? :chuckle:
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Uhm, I'm pleading the 5th on that one Brother...:lol:
     
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  6. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Pods experienced a cavity search. :chuckle:
     
  7. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    He'll be doing both at the next level. You can't teach athleticism like that.
     
  8. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    BR actually forced me to create a 2013 mock 1st round like two days after the 2012 Draft.

    It was, in a word, awful.
     
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  9. padre31

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    there were candles and soft music involved though.
     
  10. ToddPhin

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    LOL.
    Is that where you got the screen name "padre" from?.... the nickname of the guard who violated the sanctity of your poop shoot. :lol:
     
  11. ckparrothead

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    Stedman Bailey still in the late 5th round. LOL.
     
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  12. Sumlit

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    He is getting very little respect in almost all the drafts I've seen. Highest I've seen him was very late 2nd round.
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I'll accept very late 2nd at this early stage. It could easily be where he goes. But late 5th is just ridiculous.
     
  14. padre31

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    Nah, double meaning.

    As for Stedman Bailey, is it more about a combine workout where he wows, or is it a tale of just not being known?
     
  15. MrClean

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    Starks will either be resigned or signed elsewhere, well before the draft.
     
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  16. MrClean

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    Yes, better take another Ted Ginn type rather than a stud DT.
     
  17. MrClean

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    Whom should they have taken with the pick they used on Suh?
     
  18. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    A tougher version..sure
     
  19. padre31

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    Not the point, a DT does not change games via scoring, that is dogma and should be tossed.
     
  20. MrClean

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    When the Chiefs picked Dorsey, which offensive skill position player would you have taken? The first Rb or WR taken that year was Jonathan Stewart at 13th. The first WR taken was Donny Avery at 33.
    When the Chiefs took Jackson the following year at 3rd overall, I guess they could have taken Mark Sanchez, Darrius Heyward-Bey or Michael Crabtree. Whom would GM El Padre have taken?

    I do not know of an NFL player named Atouli, let alone one taken in the 1st by the Jags. I am going to take a wild guess and say you were referring to Tyson Alualu who they took 10th overall. The Jags could have taken Ryan Mathews,(12th), Jermaine Gresham, (21st), Demaryius Thomas,(22nd), Dez Bryant, (24th), or Tim Tebow, (25th), the next offensive skill position players taken, using your rationale. Which one should the Jags have taken?
     
  21. MrClean

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    It is exactly the point. Tell me, tell all of us, what should the Lions have done with that pick?
     
  22. MrClean

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    The only problem I see is what if you let Starks walk, and Star gets drafted before we pick? IMO, it is best to resign your own good players, sign UFAs who address holes on the roster, such as WR, #2 TE, CB, etc, draft BPA in the first. Even if we resigned Starks, and drafted Star, would it be so bad? Soliai is a UFA in 2014 anyway.
     
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  23. MrClean

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    He used to be a pharmacist in Tijuana.
     
  24. MrClean

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    And he liked it. :yes:
     
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  25. ToddPhin

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    LOL. I was thinking drug mule....... the kind where you want to ensure your baggie is washed before touching it. :chuckle:
     
  26. padre31

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    Completely a non sequitur, each draft is different, to call in hindsight is pointless.
     
  27. MrClean

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    Then why do you do it, when you bring up names like Suh, Dorsey, etc?
     
  28. padre31

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    B/c that is what actually happened, not what I thought or you thought should happen.

    "Then who would you have taken" changes nothing Mr C.
     
  29. MrClean

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    What do you think should have happened? If I'd been the Lions GM I'd have taken Suh the second I was on the clock.
     
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  30. Disgustipate

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    I don't think you need to put it in the context of Soliai being a free agent, I think you put it in the context of Soliai being over-rated and over-paid.

    He's inconsistent, hasn't duplicated his 2010 season, and got his *** kicked in some big games where he was needed the most- vs. the Patriots and 49ers. If you're going to pay pretty big money to a run-down specialist, he needs to be consistent and he needs to come to play when he's most needed. Outside of a couple of occasions vs. Nick Mangold, Soliai doesn't.

    If you're paying those resources, do it for a truly dominant guy. It's not too much to expect a guy who can contribute on passing downs, either. At very least, stop paying a premium for Soliai's body type. You're not running a 2-gap 3-4, you can get a smaller and less rare type of player to do the same job. Every year there are guys like Justin Bannan and Brodrick Bunkley floating around for cheap.
     
  31. Disgustipate

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    In addendum to my borderline off topic Paul Soliai phillipic, consider his PFF grades the last two years.

    2012: +1.6 overall, -1.0 run, -1.1 pass, +1.5 pass coverage(tipped passes), and +2.2 penalties(holding calls, I guess?)
    2011: +1.1 overall, +2.8 run, -1.9 pass, +.5 coverage, -0.3 penalty
     
  32. padre31

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    It is what happened, what has been the outcome?

    For myself, I'd happily keep Soliai at his $$$, and avoid taking Star if at all possible.

    Keep Big Paul and basically you need a DT who can win 1 on 1 matchups, to take Star with Soliai means you are making a area stronger, but it is an area that does not require that much invested in it, in fact a good argument could be made that Starks should walk and more expected of Odrick in his place.
     
  33. ToddPhin

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    Is this a reference to Star Lotulelei?
     
  34. Disgustipate

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    No, not really, and maybe I'm a bit contradictory in that regard. He's potentially a guy who can rush the passer, my problem is more paying a premium for a run-down specialist.
     
  35. ToddPhin

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    I'd call Star more of an overall disruptive force than just a run-down specialist but that could be just me.
     

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