Draft target: Tremaine Edmunds

Good Lord, he was beastly on that first play! Good hands, good motor...looks like a stud. Where's he projected to go in the draft?

"KeyFin wrote:

Good Lord, he was beastly on that first play! Good hands, good motor...looks like a stud. Where's he projected to go in the draft?

Round One, pick #10. :unsure:

deluca

Looks great on film. Not sure this team would pick him that high IMHO I have a feeling they are going to go free agent with the Mike position. He does look like a great prospect.

He is a stud, but "forgetting" about Ro Smith would be a huge mistake. Smith isn't as big as Edmunds, but I don't really see Edmunds doing anything better than Smith and Smith is more polished at this point.

Be careful of this dudes videos, he’ll show five plays and rewind it 20 times, and talk for twenty mins..

I’ve watched a lot of his reps now, and you need to do that to get a full repertoire of his strengths and weaknesses, and while he’s got the measurables we all want, size/speed ratio, imo his diagnosing skills at the linebacker position are below average, his vision, awareness and instincts, that whole package is subpar..he’s only 20 but I just can’t take that risk on athletic ability if the instincts and ability to diagnos isn’t there, nfl coordinators and qbs will make him look silly..

"djphinfan wrote:

Be careful of this dudes videos, he’ll show five plays and rewind it 20 times, and talk for twenty mins..

I’ve watched a lot of his reps now, and you need to do that to get a full repertoire of his strengths and weaknesses, and while he’s got the measurables we all want, size/speed ratio, imo his diagnosing skills at the linebacker position are below average, his vision, awareness and instincts, that whole package is subpar..he’s only 20 but I just can’t take that risk on athletic ability if the instincts and ability to diagnos isn’t there, nfl coordinators and qbs will make him look silly..

so, he'll for sure be the pick is basically what i'm hearing. sounds like he fits the LB'er mold of this team.

"muskrat21 wrote:

so, he'll for sure be the pick is basically what i'm hearing. sounds like he fits the LB'er mold of this team.

I laughed at first, but..... I can't disagree. :(

"muskrat21 wrote:

so, he'll for sure be the pick is basically what i'm hearing. sounds like he fits the LB'er mold of this team.

I think it’s time we prioritize a few things over athletic ability..

Instincts...intellect...work ethic..leadership...

I would pass on Edmunds and take Shaquem Griffin later..

"danmarino wrote:

He is a stud, but "forgetting" about Ro Smith would be a huge mistake. Smith isn't as big as Edmunds, but I don't really see Edmunds doing anything better than Smith and Smith is more polished at this point.

Ro Smith is highly overrated imo. He is undersized and he can't get off blocks. Once a blocker gets their hands on him 8 times out of ten he is pushed back and taken out of the play. Edmunds on the other hand is a lot better than Smith at beating blocks. He is big enough to take on lineman and atheltic enough to run with and cover scat backs and tightends. We have been undersized at the linebacker position for as long as I can rmember which is one of the reasons we have struggled so much. Especially for the wide nine defense we run we need big linebackers like Edmunds who can do it all.

"djphinfan wrote:

Be careful of this dudes videos, he’ll show five plays and rewind it 20 times, and talk for twenty mins..

I’ve watched a lot of his reps now, and you need to do that to get a full repertoire of his strengths and weaknesses, and while he’s got the measurables we all want, size/speed ratio, imo his diagnosing skills at the linebacker position are below average, his vision, awareness and instincts, that whole package is subpar..he’s only 20 but I just can’t take that risk on athletic ability if the instincts and ability to diagnos isn’t there, nfl coordinators and qbs will make him look silly..

I think you are being too hard in your assessment. He misdiagnoses a few plays here and there, but it's not a constant or big issue in his overall game. He is generally doing things right and making plays. His production speaks for itself and his diagnosis skills will only get better with more coaching and experience. His cieling is the highest of any linebacker in this draft and he can be a day one starter at Sam for us imho.

Good Lord he's a human missle

"miamiron wrote:

Good Lord he's a human missle

Reminds me of my old friend Zach Thomas except this boy is big! Zach was a human missle man

"hitman8 wrote:

I think you are being too hard in your assessment. He misdiagnoses a few plays here and there, but it's not a constant or big issue in his overall game. He is generally doing things right and making plays. His production speaks for itself and his diagnosis skills will only get better with more coaching and experience. His cieling is the highest of any linebacker in this draft and he can be a day one starter at Sam for us imho.

I want to like every prospect, I do not feel like I'm being hard on him, and its mos def not a rarity to see him completely lost on plays, it happens often enough where he scares the hell out of me..but more power to ya Hitman,if he's your guy at 11 ok, I hope your right.

He's 19. You do what you want with him as a prospect. He can be moulded into a SLB very easily. Watch the tape and he diagnoses well, he's an athletic marvel, he can cover tight ends and you can watch him redirect and run with slot receivers. Very few linebacker prospects have EVER looked like this coming out. He's Planet Theory at LB.

I have a feeling this is the guy I'll want with our first round pick come draft day. Him or mincah. I'e spent the last week looking into him and have come away impressed

"adamprez2003 wrote:

I have a feeling this is the guy I'll want with our first round pick come draft day. Him or mincah. I'e spent the last week looking into him and have come away impressed

Idk why I’ve seen Minkah mocked to us. He will likely be gone by then. I’m banking they do edge/de again and pick Marcus Davenport.

"djphinfan wrote:

I think it’s time we prioritize a few things over athletic ability..

Instincts...intellect...work ethic..leadership...

I would pass on Edmunds and take Shaquem Griffin later..

There was a recent article in SI about Saban and Bill, they both have a set measurable size at every position and don't stray from it. Was rather interesting.

"Phinsfan92 wrote:

Idk why I’ve seen Minkah mocked to us. He will likely be gone by then. I’m banking they do edge/de again and pick Marcus Davenport.

I think Davenport, Smith, Edmunds, or Fitz are all possibilities.

"dolphin25 wrote:

There was a recent article in SI about Saban and Bill, they both have a set measurable size at every position and don't stray from it. Was rather interesting.

saban recruits based on ass size

"Phinsfan92 wrote:

Idk why I’ve seen Minkah mocked to us. He will likely be gone by then. I’m banking they do edge/de again and pick Marcus Davenport.

We're going more to hybrid nickel and dime packages supposedly with mcdaniel taking the wlb spot. If thats the case we may still be in the markwt for a fs but yeah He's probably gone unless there is a massive run on qbs

"adamprez2003 wrote:

We're going more to hybrid nickel and dime packages supposedly with mcdaniel taking the wlb spot. If thats the case we may still be in the markwt for a fs but yeah He's probably gone unless there is a massive run on qbs

I don't believe in this hybrid nickel and dime crap. It's the biggest load of hoarse shit I have heard in a while. It's hard enough making the stupid wide 9 work, don't need to complicate things even more, especially with an inexperienced coach like Burke as DC. Gase needs to stop with the exotic defense experiments and just draft good players to play traditional 4-3. The 4-3 alignments is fine for covering tight ends if you have the right players and coaching for it. You don't see anybody else coming up with this hybrid nonsense theory in order to cover tight ends.

Draft Tremaine Edmunds and put him at SLB. He has the size and athleticsm to match up with and cover any tight end. Not that complicated really, we just have gone to long with undersized and not very athletic linebackers. That is why we can't cover tight ends, not our lack of some hybrid alignment.

"danmarino wrote:

I think Davenport, Smith, Edmunds, or Fitz are all possibilities.

I agree with all those except fitzpatrick although I hope you’re right, and they would have to take him and finally make a solid first round draft choice. :dolphin: