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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Nov 12, 2019.
Or so Twitter is beginning to say:
I'm not sure they're specifically looking for a super athletic guy, or else they wouldn't have traded for Josh Rosen. I do think, however, they would certainly consider Jordan Love for a multitude of reasons.
I don't doubt they have an eye on Love, but I doubt it is their main plan and is instead more of a back up plan in case their main plan or two fall through.
I suspect main plan is still to draft a QB 1st unless we win our way out of top 3 on the board. I wouldn't doubt that these are contingency plans though.
Hope you are right. I dont like this plan. It is going back to that failed mentality of drafting types to fit a particular scheme instead of drafting the best players. The best QB in the draft at this point is Jordan Burrows imo. He should be the plan A target. I dont like love, for every lamar jackson there are dozens of failed athletic QB prospects. This league is too copy cat, one team has some success with taking a chance on lamar jackson and now everybody is trying to replicate it. Nothing stands out for me with love. QB targets should be Burrows or Tua.
If you read these tweets you'd see Miami was in on this plan BEFORE Jackson started this insanity.
I'm all for it. Especially if it means Miami won't have to give away a lot of the picks they worked so hard to get.
That doesnt make the plan any better. No-one here will complain if we use the last pick of the draft on a QB and he makes it.
It almost makes it worse they didnt go after Jackson, even though I believe he will flame out hard.
The idea is more....is it smart to not put top priority on the top position.
They are going to win more games. I doubt they are going to be able to get Tua or Burrows. I don't see them trading up.
Would be hard to get mad at Chase Young really. But we will pick a QB unless we finish outside the top 3 and lack conviction on anyone but the top 1-2 guys to take that high.
If we somehow end up picking in the 5-8 rage, the OSU corner Okudah is a gamer too. Pair with X and just shut down passing games.
I could very well be wrong, but I just have a gut feeling that we’re either going to make a play on Burrows...or we’re foregoing the QB in this draft, build a powerhouse running team then going for Lawrence in 2021
There's a simple answer that meets their draft philosophy and their mobile QB...Cam Newton. I've heard tidbits that Superman himself is highly coveted by the front office this off-season and he may be bringing his talents to South Beach.
Can Newton would be Dante Culpepper all over again. HARD PASS
Yeah stay away from Cam Newton. I said right from his rookie year that he wouldn't be that good (I just have a bias against QB's that aren't accurate and/or make bad decisions because I don't think you can teach that, at least not most of the time). And sure enough the guy ended up as a below average passer with a career z-score of -0.133 (and that's including that one good year in 2015), though I agree if you add in his scrambling ability that would raise his overall value.. to maybe average? lol.
Stay away from Cam Newton! (unless he's a low paid backup that replaces Rosen lol)
LOL, I promise I'm not the one recruiting him.....just sharing what's leaked out to the media recently. It could be all fluff news or there could be some truth to it; who knows. Cam is fun watching though!
I love his effort.
I would be thrilled if we drafted Love.
Can we just start getting the guy's name right?
resnors what are your thoughts on Burrows?
Cam frankly looked absolutely done. I think some people are underrating his peak, but good lord did the league just allow him to be wrecked. That guy has taken more big hits than I would want to be investing in at this point. He will need to sign a one year prove it deal, and it will probably be with a team like the Bears or Chargers (if Rivers moves). Just too many injury questions to really invest in the guy at this point.
What would be smart in my opinion is to parlay the high number of early draft picks into several more years of them. That can easily be done by trading back and picking up a team's pick from this year and from a future year.
Assemble a team that's comprised largely of (hopefully good) players on their cheap, rookie contracts, while possessing lots of salary cap flexibility to add veterans who fill very precise needs.
Well I think both Tua and Burrow should still be top priority in this upcoming draft, but....If we came out of the first round with 2 of our 3 picks being Chase Young and Jalen Hurts, I wouldn't be mad at all. In fact, i'd be absolutely ecstatic.
Yeah I'm really liking Jalen Hurts, a lot! But I am pretty sure their QB 1 and 1A are Tua and Burrows. Definitely NOT a fan of Herbert and Love is just too up and down for me. I think the guy they would want outside the 1st two is Jake Fromm. I just have a feeling he fits what they want and no I don't have anything to back that up.
I would be very surprised if Burrow(s) was their QB1 or 1b at this point, and indeed that's one of his biggest issues to overcome is the "Johnny come lately" flash in the pan thing. Coming into the year, it is hard to think the front office really paid much attention to Burrow at all, and while his year has been VERY impressive, they likely haven't made any huge board changes to the QB class at this point. They will want to see his whole year, talk to people, talk to him, etc.
We can trade up from 4th or 5th to number 1 if we want. Maybe we still get a top 2 pick who knows. I think we land either Tua or Burrow, otherwise we pick Chase Young and Jalen Hurts.
And here we thought 'Tagovailoa' was going to be a challenge.
I have been saying Burrow since September.
But sadly it's not going to happen.
please no we need a new young franchise we to build around. Not a fan of newton. The leauge has figured him out and he’s not adjusting
Is #4 to high for Jeff Okudah?
Asking for a friend.
Jury still out on whether Jackson can actually pass though. 10 of his 15 tds came against the Dolphins Cardinals and Bengals and a 1/3rd from that one game.
Are you guys talking about Joe Borrows in here?
Wait do you mean Joe Burro?
Come on now, do keep up.
Same, would love to have Young + our franchise QB whoever they may choose. This is exciting, because it seems like we really have found a coach, look what he is doing with this roster. Just hope he and Grier can find Pro-Bowl/Starter material players and the future does kinda seem a little brighter then I'm used to as a Dolfan.
I don’t know this cannata dude is but he’s floating bs. They are taking qb top pick and they are all in on it.
I bet ya they at least try to get to 2 if they don’t land the pick. Cinci will hang up on em if they call to get to 1 and cincis there.
I think there's a mole on the forum....
Finally saw a draft that had us take two offensive linemen in the 1st and RB Swift. That'll do pig though I'd prefer a WR or DE.
All this QB talk has given me a headache. My head HURTS. I'd LOVE to BURROW an aspirin or TUA FROMM somebody.
I just read this particular post and I have to disagree with you hitman. There’s nothing wrong with drafting good players that fit your scheme...provided you have a system that is successful. If you look at some of the most successful head coaches in the league, that’s what they had...a SYSTEM.
Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Dan Reeves and Bill Belichick. All of these coaches had a tried and proven system and they accumulated players who’s talents were suited to that system. They didn’t take an SUV and try to use it like a sports car. If they needed an SUV, they got an SUV...if they needed a sports car, they got a sports car. The point being is these head coaches were successful with how their system produced and kept their teams loaded with players that continued making that system work.
Now the question with Flores though does the team believe in HIS philosophy...HIS system, is it going to be a successful system and if so, will he get what he needs to be a success or will upper management force players on him that don’t serve his purpose?