Chad Henne [20] Chad Pennington [55] Ted Ginn [33]-------------- Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [10] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [48] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [2] Jason Ferguson [8]++++++++++++or JT if he comes back in Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [12]
Adding Davone Bess back to the list. He got chopped off back on page 43, reply #851. Which was also Baboo72's illegal vote. Sorry to pile on Baboo! If anybody is copying and pasting, please switch back to the quoting and removing tags method. Copying and pasting is dropping players from the list somehow. Chad Henne [20] Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [10] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [48] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [2] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [12]
Chad Henne [20] Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [10] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [48] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [1] ------ Finish him!!! (But I hope he beasts this year) Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13] +++++++++
I DEMAND THIS CONTEST BE RESTARTED WITH JASON TAYLOR INCLUDED! In lieu of that here's my vote Chad Henne [19] - he's done nothing but warm the bench.....so far Chad Pennington [55] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] + One of the most underrated picks of last year's draft. Will be a star imo Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [48] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [1] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] ------- Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] +++++ remember what happened when he was out of the lineup last year Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [48] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [1] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [49] + Big Jake Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Cameron Wake [0] - sorry dude Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
ok, here goes, 3rd times a charm.... Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [33] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] - Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] + Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13] looks round...ok to post...go, go, go!
I say go ahead and add JT, having the Total add up to 450 isn't really that drastic of a change from 445.
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [32]- Ronnie Brown [76]+ Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16]++++++++ Ted Ginn [32] Ronnie Brown [76] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [3] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [11]------------ Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [32] Ronnie Brown [75] ------ Even it out Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] +++ helping the little guy Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [11] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [31] - Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [18] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] + Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [31] - The classic Tarzan / Jane player. (Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane) Except that Ginn doesn't really even look like Tarzan. Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [18] + With the signing of JT, I'm much more optimistic about 55 duplicating his heroic efforts of a year ago. Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [31] Ronnie Brown [74] - Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [19] + Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [30] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [6] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13] Vengeful Oden forgot to add and minus his toals for Ginn and Porter. This is fixed
Vengeful Odin didn't increment either player. Ted Ginn loses one, and Porter gains one. Also adding my vote. Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] - Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] + Seeing one of the hardest workers on the team and hero of 2007 lose votes makes me sick to my stomach. Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [30] + Ronnie Brown [73] - Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] - Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [7] +++++ or now 2 votes from me for JT Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
There was a great argument made that adding JT at this point in the game would be a bogus move considering there is no guarantee he would have lasted this long if we had known he would be here at the start of the game. The game would lose a little integrity. It's kind of late in the game to consider adding him now. But I'm open to other arguments. But "Add JT" is not an argument. How about everyone who has been playing vote yay or nay on adding JT along with reasoning. Reasoning behind your vote required. Tomorrow morning I'll either add him or not based on the votes.
My reasoning is pretty simple. The man will be a Hall of Famer when he decides to retire. He'll certainly be added to our Ring of Honor. He was Defensive MVP in 2005. He took a 7 million dollar pay CUT so he could come back and play in Miami. When asked about it, he said "I always planned on going back to the Dolphins." A better question would be, how can you NOT add him. The man bled aqua and orange for over 10 seasons for us, and now he's coming back after showing loyalty to a franchise that had almost discarded him a year ago.
Will JT win?? he has a chance because of coming back but if he was in it from the beginning he would still be in it He would not have less votes than Ricky. Dont we remember how Ricky was the most hated phin ever and now the fans have welcomed him back (not as much as before though)
Those are all great reasons why JT is a great player. But I'm looking for reasons why it's ok to add him into a game that is already in the later stages. I will; however, count that as one vote for.
Is that a yes vote? JT would garner many votes out of emotion. But emotion is a valid reason to vote for a player in survivor so that would be OK.
As an UnTEDable, if it means that Teddy is less likely to win by adding JT, then I'm all for it. JT... looks like Jane, plays like Tarzan...
I vote nay on JT being added. they don't add people halfway through a survivor season on tv. so no, i say nay.
All I'm saying is that you're stats are flawed. Stats only tell part of the story. If you took Ginn off the field, Cam and Bess wouldn't do nearly as well. As to you LOL-ing...care to explain? Pennington does NOT have a strong arm. Does he get some deep balls? Sure, when guys have beat defenders by 10 yards...as long as that happens within 20 yards of the LOS, Pennington will throw it. Fact is, Pennington can't throw it downfield with much power, and that hampers Ginn's game. This is not to say that I'm downing Pennington, cause I'm not. He turned our team around. I'm just saying, that Pennington's strengths do NOT play into Ginn's strengths, and to fault Ginn for that is ludicrous. Pennington just is not the type of QB to truly utilize Ginn's strengths, and until we have a QB that can do that, people will sit there and say that Cam/Bess/whoever are better than Ginn...when it just isn't true.
Chad Henne [18] - Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [30] + Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [8] Ricky Williams [12] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
I want to add JT but i dont think we should. Its late in the game and im not so sure he will win although id vote for him. We're so far into it now, no need to add him.
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [30] Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [7] - The rookies must go Ricky Williams [13]+ Been here the longest out of any of these people Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [50] Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [54] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [29] - Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [18] Will Allen [11] Gibril Wilson [9] Sean Smith [7] Ricky Williams [13] Lousaka Polite [7] Yeremiah Bell [15] Patrick Cobbs [8] Channing Crowder [4] Joey Porter [20] Justin Smiley [6] Kendall Langford [11] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [51]+ Anthony Fasano [10] Greg Camarillo [7] Jason Ferguson [8] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [12] Tony Sparano [13]
Don't you think that's a major stretch? I mean, all you have to do is go back and look at that long TD pass from CP to TG last year. TG was covered by two guys closely, Chad dropped it in there perfectly... a beautiful pass, and to his credit, Teddy held on to the ball... nice job Teddy. Chad actually had Cam breaking open by 10 yards on the left side, but didn't throw it to him.
I believe he'll throw more deep balls this year behind a line that can pass block longer and a game plan that will open things up to take advantage of the improved line. IIRC the pass to Ginn came off the Wildcat.
