Dolphins searching for a nose

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ATVZ400ATVZ400New MemberOP
Apr 8, 2009, 02:09 PM

Dolphins searching for a nose
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/04/yeah-i-said-it.html

If the Dolphins don't draft a nose that might indicate that this regime plans to aggressively pursue Vince Wilfork in next year's free agent class.

I've been told the former Hurricane would welcome a return home, and won't be re-signing with New England if they make him begin this season without a new contract.

Say bye to Beck
http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/dolphins/13805

Sizing up the draft: Defensive backs - Malcolm Jenkins vs Vontae Davis
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-nfl-draft-cornerbacks-s04080sbapr08,0,228656.story

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Apr 8, 2009, 02:19 PM

Considering he's done nothing against us the past few years :notfunny:

Anything we can do to :nutkicker: the Pats, I'm all for!!! Plus it would allow us to use our #1 pick next year else where.... like CJ Spiller. hahaha.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Apr 8, 2009, 02:42 PM

Wilfork has said repeatedly he hates the Dolphins, and I am down with that. The guy is way overrated, and a dirty player to boot

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Apr 8, 2009, 02:47 PM

"Disgustipate wrote:

Wilfork has said repeatedly he hates the Dolphins, and I am down with that. The guy is way overrated, and a dirty player to boot

He is dirty... but I'd rather have him playing dirty for us than dirty against us. LOL.

Apr 8, 2009, 03:49 PM

Wilfork is old and is a dirtier player than Rodney Harisson.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

54Fins54Finsforum_veteran
Apr 8, 2009, 04:06 PM

Does anyone think they will franchise him?

GCgcd960New Member
Apr 8, 2009, 04:11 PM

How is he old? he cant be much older than VC?

King FelixKing Felixsubscriber
Apr 8, 2009, 04:15 PM

well we def do need a nose tackle. remember when ferguson went down last year? and with ferguson's injury history.....

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Apr 8, 2009, 04:17 PM

He's only 27.

jupiterfinjupiterfinforum_veteran
Apr 8, 2009, 04:26 PM


Dolphins searching for a nose



So is Michael Jackson :rimshot:

NInighttrain76New Member
Apr 8, 2009, 05:34 PM

Ron Brace will be our future NT with the #44 pick!! Take it to the bank. :up:

Apr 8, 2009, 05:47 PM

Dorrel Scott?

OnehondoOnehondosubscriber
Apr 9, 2009, 12:24 PM

I don't think the Dolphin's braintrust are thinking about another teams NT. It could happen but I really don't think they are planning ahead for it. If a good young NT falls to us I still think they make the pick.

texanphinatictexanphinaticforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2009, 12:32 PM

I dont think we can go out and not draft a NT this year because of a potential FA NEXT year. Thats just asking for a letdown really.
What happens when the Pats offer him a new deal? Franchise him? Etc. To many variables. You cannot draft in the present thinking of specifics in the future like that.

slickj101slickj101forum_veteran
Apr 9, 2009, 12:52 PM

"nighttrain76 wrote:

Ron Brace will be our future NT with the #44 pick!! Take it to the bank. :up:

With 44?

We would be raping ourselves then.

Silence

It's ******* Golden.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Apr 9, 2009, 01:09 PM

Ron Brace is going round 1 take it to the bank.

texanphinatictexanphinaticforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2009, 01:16 PM

"slickj101 wrote:

With 44?

We would be raping ourselves then.

We will be lucky if he makes it that far ...

With so many teams moving to a 3-4 NTs are in huge demand this draft, and simply put, there arent that many in this draft early. Add in teams like JVille, traditional 4-3, looking to bulk up and you have a huge demand with low supply.

Personally im leaning toward LB with 25 and CB with 44 myself. Rey M. making it to 25 would be sweet.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Apr 9, 2009, 01:29 PM

I don't think our NT is going to be someone alot of people have pegged as an NT. He's probably going to be more along the lines of Jason Ferguson, under 320 pounds and not brutally strong, more of a hard-nosed technician than a big fatbody. You've got to consider basically all of Parcell's NT prospects have been like 6'3" 315 pounds, and that the guys that Jeff Ireland and the current coaching staff came up with guys who were 6'4" 300ish pounds.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Apr 9, 2009, 01:46 PM

"nighttrain76 wrote:

Ron Brace will be our future NT with the #44 pick!! Take it to the bank. :up:

No he will not,........hopefully. He's not a typical nose tackle IMO. He does not have an ability to slide down the line and make plays.

http://www.universaldraft.com/Ron_Brace.html

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Apr 9, 2009, 01:47 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

Ron Brace is going round 1 take it to the bank.

Jesus I hope not. :lol:

Guys you may want to look out for may be Dorrell Scott or even Ricky Jean-Francois (I know that will peak some interest, just plug in a game tape and you'll see what I'm looking at) :wink2:

He doesn't have the great lateral agility but the LSU product can hold his own at the point of attack.

ATVZ400ATVZ400New Member
Apr 9, 2009, 02:55 PM

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Apr 9, 2009, 03:42 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Jesus I hope not. :lol:

Guys you may want to look out for may be Dorrell Scott or even Ricky Jean-Francois (I know that will peak some interest, just plug in a game tape and you'll see what I'm looking at) :wink2:

He doesn't have the great lateral agility but the LSU product can hold his own at the point of attack.

Ricky JF sure looks good at times in LSU's scheme. Definitely physically capable of being a stud if he wants to bad enough. Do you think he could play Ferguson's spot in our scheme? He seems like more suited to 3,4, or 5 technique.

When I've seen Ricky at his best, he certainly did pique my interest.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Apr 9, 2009, 03:44 PM

"ATVZ400 wrote:

Brother Can You Spare A Nose Tackle
http://www.nfldraftbible.com/All-Access-Football/an_in_depth_look_at_the_nose_tackle_position.html

Good read on NT in the draft

Not a bad article coming from The National Enquirer of draft sites. :D

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Apr 9, 2009, 03:47 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

No he will not,........hopefully. He's not a typical nose tackle IMO. He does not have an ability to slide down the line and make plays.

http://www.universaldraft.com/Ron_Brace.html

If we did draft Brace, where would you think we'd play him? Or do you think his skill set isn't suited for our scheme at all?

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

Philter25Philter25New Member
Apr 9, 2009, 04:48 PM

Banking on signing Wilfork would be a horrible idea. With all the teams switching to a 3-4, chances are one of them wont land their stud NT next year. If Wilfork hits the market, you potentially are looking at Miami, NE, KC, GB, and Denver needing a NT if they cant hit with one in this years draft.

Theres bound to be a team to throw big money at him...... and thats IF NE doesnt franchise him.

Miami cant expect that they would be able to sign Wilfork..... plus, although NT is critical to a 3-4 defense, the NT isnt your playmaker and NT isnt a position I would want to see us give big money to.

On top of that, NT's arent 3 down players. In nickel and dime package and on passing downs, your NT comes out of the game. If he does his job, he is a first and 2nd down only player. I dont think we should be giving big money to a guy who isnt going to be on the football field during the most important down, 3rd down.

We need to take one on the second day and groom him for a year behind Ferguson. Terrance Taylor, Myron Pryor, Dorell Scott, Terrance Knighton, Roy Miller, or Baker would be good late round prospects.

"gcd960 wrote:

How is he old? he cant be much older than VC?

They were teammates in college and the same age. We passed Wilfork in the draft and traded up to take Carey. Genius, eh?