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Dolphins rookie WR Turner slow to develop

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan7171, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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  2. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Over Yonder
    Screw separation. Isn't he supposed to be our guy that can go up and get balls thrown into coverage?
     
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  3. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. He needs to be out on that field!!
     
  4. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Wasnt that the knock on him when he was entering the draft?
     
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  5. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Didn't we draft him to be our big physical redzone threat who could get off of press coverage?

    This is just great.
     
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  6. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Can't have desert until you finish your vegetables...
     
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  7. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Yes I can. Mmmmm.....key lime pie!

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Yea.
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/patrick-turner?id=81312#profiles-tabs:players-analysis

    Maybe the FO was thinking that if they could polish his route running that would get him seperation? I don't know.
     
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  9. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting.
     
  10. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    play him
     
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  11. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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  12. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Kind of useless if he can't get open against back ups in practice.
     
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  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Put him on the field
    Why are they so stubborn on this
    They activate him twice and he stands there
    see what he can do in a game
    I don't get it
     
  14. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Putting him out on the field when he is not ready is absolutely pointless and detrimental to his development and the team.
     
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  16. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Our WR coaching sucks.
     
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  17. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Detrimental to a WR corp that has only found the endzone 3 times in 11 games (all buckeyes btw)?
     
  18. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    That is ridiculous
    detrimental to his development,detrimental to the team
    one or two plays to see what he can do won't hurt the team or the player
    with your logic why activate him at all
     
  19. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    He's this year's Ernest Wilford.
     
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  20. Stringer Bell

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    Its detrimental to Turner though, and when you do things like that, you risk sending the wrong message to the younger players.

    If Turner isn't doing what they are asking him to do in practice, he isn't going to play in games. If they play him now, they essentially are telling him he doesn't need to work on the things hes struggling with, because hes guaranteed snaps.
     
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  21. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    if they can experiment with pat white for no good reason, then why not turner. equal opportunity experimenting. :yes:
     
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  22. Stringer Bell

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    I think the experimentation with White has to do more with our coaching staff than the player. They want to get tape on how teams defend those different formation.
     
  23. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    yep. they can run that ridiculous pistol/spread garbage that is a waste of downs and time but can't throw to Turner because it hurts the team and the players development.
    where do people come up with their logic
     
  24. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    then why did they dress him at all for two games
    makes no sense
     
  25. Stringer Bell

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    Have you seen Turner practice?

    Have you seen White practice?

    How do you have any idea of how much they deserve to play in games?
     
  26. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    answer my question
    if he doesn't deserve to be in games then why dress him
    if they dress him he obviously deserves to play that week
    if he deserves to play why not use him
    get it bro :wink2:

    don't use the have you seen them practice bs on me
     
  27. Stringer Bell

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    Are you saying everyone who dresses deserves to get snaps?
     
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  28. jdang307

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    I'm not him, but everyone who gets dressed and gets snaps deserves snaps then :pointlol:

    If turner can't, then he's just a reserve. Can the guy not jump over a DB? Just wondering.
     
  29. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    when he a rookie dresses and the group in front of him are as bad as our wr's.
    you bet
    turner must have done something right during the week to earn the chance to dress
    put him in for a few plays and find out how he does in a real game
     
  30. SICK

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    bust :shifty:
     
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  31. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Ever heard the saying "The backup QB is the most popular guy on the team until he takes the field"?

    Substitute WR for QB and I think it applies to Turner here.
     
  32. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    have you seen proof of that
    thought not
    fictional theories are fun and interesting in fantasy land
    this is the NFL and I've seen plenty of backups shine when given the chance
    your point has no legs but thanks for trying
     
  33. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    It's obvious that there was a chance for Turner to beat out Hartline for the 4th WR slot. Didn't happen. Again if Turner can't beat out this WR corps in practice then that suggest he isn't ready.

    Once we are mathematically elminated from the playoffs then put Turner in. Until then keep him on the bench. We also have a young QB and giving him the best WRs possible ( even if they aren't great ) is beneficial to his development.
     
  34. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    My point has legs of steel. Robotic even.

    I just have a hard time believing the coaching staff is stashing away some great player when our receiver corp. sucks as a whole.
     
  35. Stringer Bell

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    [goes back to the club forum]
     
  36. SICK

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    your argument is just as baseless........so you have "seen plenty of bakcups shine" with a chance eh? well that proves it guys......turner, thigpen, garner, chris clemmons, quinton moses, and lex hiliard should all be starting......cause this guy has seen back ups shine with the opportunity......its in stone. make it happen sparano!!!!!
     
  37. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Pretty good article on Turner and playing time. Probably has been posted before but I will included just in case:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/1329081.html

    It doesn't address why Turner hasn't seen the field yet, but it outright says he WILL see the field.

    Guesses on when he will?
    My guess if we lose the Pats game, then it might be 'over' so the next week.. maybe?
     
  38. Vengeful Odin

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    I understand the folks wanting Turner to see the field. I should point out though, he's done nothing - even going back and looking at him in preseason - that would warrant him getting a chance to play in the game. At least with Hartline we saw some glimpses in preseason that would lead you to believe he should start.

    This regime isn't stupid. We've seen them take the approach that if you're better you play. (Donald Thomas beat out the higher drafted Sean Murphy at G, Ernest Wilford was cut, Wilson was demoted for Clemons, etc.) There isn't some grand conspiracy at play here. If Turner could play better than our current crop of WRs he would be out on the field. Until he learns how to beat the CB at the LOS we aren't going to see him in meaningful action.
     
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  39. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    that would only be true if they tried to use him in ways that he has proven to be ineffective. there has to be something he can do well. let him do that. i wouldn't even mind just getting him on the field as a decoy. let him run off defenders to open up stuff for the other guys. any way of getting him on the field would be good IMO, even if he doesn't get the ball yet. We really have very little to lose at this point. I'm not sure this offense would even be capable of having a set back in the passing game. Turner could start as the #1 WR this week, and we would get the same results. Not that I'm endorsing that kind of a move.
     
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  40. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Sounds all well and good in theory, but by making him the #1 you're taking away playing time from someone else who is more deserving. You gonna sit Hartline? Camrallio? Ginn is already getting less snaps in favor of Hartline anyhow. So who?
     
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